EP1LOGUE Q&A

hamdysayed said:
ok let's slow it down yall...
are y'all hitting the gym harder? maybe that's why joints hurting you have quick recovery and crazy pumps that will help u push through workouts.
@rowz4bros I had joint pain at 23 when I hit gym hard , just saying.
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def be could unrelated!! i mean no harm with my comments. But If i have something to report I am going to report it. My joints felt amazing on a different ep1 product and this is the newest inclusion into my stack.

I am not coming in here to do anything other then report what Im feeling, I am truly running this product as well. Like i said could be unrelated my training volume is the same if not less then normal due to lethargy Ive reported which also could be unrelated. To those that have commented above i think bloodwork would be awesome to put a lot of us at ease.


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hamdysayed said:
ok let's slow it down yall...
are y'all hitting the gym harder? maybe that's why joints hurting you have quick recovery and crazy pumps that will help u push through workouts.
@rowz4bros I had joint pain at 23 when I hit gym hard , just saying.
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How long u been taking the product for??
 
Y'all are overthinking everything. I just finished a bottle. 2 weeks at 2 the rest of the bottle at 3. I liked 2, loved 3. Will run bottle two at 3 most likely. Endurance is up, strength is up, and it's the only compound I'm on minus Rich's liver and organ at 2/3 dose. It is definitely up there with good natty products. Best.. maybe. Time will tell. Not much visually other than maybe more chest fullness constantly. In the gym great pumps, a definite difference there. So. 1 bottle and i see endurance and strength.
 
Should I avoid taking anything with Epilogue? Or avoid taking anything around the same time frame with it PWO?

I just started Xgels so I have cut out fish oils because I have read it's best to not take fish oils with x gels and in two weeks I am going to add in the Epilogue, DermaStrength (laxogen), Reduce XT, and MTest.

FYI this is for my PCT :)
 
hamdysayed said:
ok let's slow it down yall...
are y'all hitting the gym harder? maybe that's why joints hurting you have quick recovery and crazy pumps that will help u push through workouts.
@rowz4bros I had joint pain at 23 when I hit gym hard , just saying.
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Getting caught up on this thread and I was going to mention exactly this. I have noticed some slight joint discomfort in my elbows/shoulders/wrists but I attribute this to the increase in volume I have been doing. I get through my normal 1 hour 15 min sessions in about 50 mins and then end up adding another exercise or 2 at the end b/c I am just not tired.
 
Lol sorry for the confusion everyone, i meant he will know after a few weeks there is no benefit to going over the suggested dose.
 
carguy123 said:
Getting caught up on this thread and I was going to mention exactly this. I have noticed some slight joint discomfort in my elbows/shoulders/wrists but I attribute this to the increase in volume I have been doing. I get through my normal 1 hour 15 min sessions in about 50 mins and then end up adding another exercise or 2 at the end b/c I am just not tired.
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Good point. Often times, we miss the most obvious part.

hamdysayed said:
u were about to cause some mass hysteria
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LMAO no sh*t....people were looking at their capsules of Ep1 like a mix of 700mg Winstrol+10mg of Letrozole :toofunny:
 
I respond really well to epi in general, my joints are feeling great, and some of my inflammatory stomach issues have toned down...which always happens when I take epi, so I try to stay on it. Loving the pumps from this stacked with a scoop of Reign. Looking forward to stacking with Massacre and then Assaassinate after the New Year.
 
Danes said:
Can you explain why my d1ck has become thicker.. :(
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My d1ck hasn’t gotten any thicker, but during week 6 my libido has certainly increased, to the point that my wife asked me if there was some hot chick at the gym who was responsible. I will admit that the visual landscape at the gym (particularly women at the squat rack) serves as great foreplay, but in this case I will give some credit to Ep1logue. We’ll see if this continues.
 
slickwillie said:
My d1ck hasn’t gotten any thicker, but during week 6 my libido has certainly increased, to the point that my wife asked me if there was some hot chick at the gym who was responsible. I will admit that the visual landscape at the gym (particularly women at the squat rack) serves as great foreplay, but in this case I will give some credit to Ep1logue. We’ll see if this continues.
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This product even make me confused.
Some people report decreased libido and even problems getting solid erections while some like you report increased libido :)
 
Danes said:
This product even make me confused.
Some people report decreased libido and even problems getting solid erections while some like you report increased libido :)
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I share your confusion. The last time my estradiol was as low as it is now, my libido went into the toilet. But not this time.
 
Danes said:
This product even make me confused.
Some people report decreased libido and even problems getting solid erections while some like you report increased libido :)
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I don't remember anyone reporting lower libido, nor this is expected.
The powerful vasodilating effect may well improve erection strength tho.
 
EP1LOGUE Q&A

Danes said:
This product even make me confused.
Some people report decreased libido and even problems getting solid erections while some like you report increased libido :)
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I am actually experiencing these negative symptoms (week 5/8) and was starting to worry. Any suggestions on proper course of action? Should I discontinue?
 
Beta said:
I am actually experiencing these negative symptoms (week 5/8) and was starting to worry. Any suggestions on proper course of action? Should I discontinue?
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1. What kind of sides?
2. Are you running other supplements ?
3. How many caps daily ?
 
Danes said:
1. What kind of sides?
2. Are you running other supplements ?
3. How many caps daily ?
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1. Difficulty maintaining solid erections
2. Ep1logue, OG Tr1umph, and a Preworkout (right now Quake)
3. Following Standard dosing procedure of 2caps pre, 1/1 split on non-training days

again, about 5 weeks in of my 2 bottle run

Was wondering if it was stim related but I haven't changed my stim dosing in a long time
 
Beta said:
1. Difficulty maintaining solid erections
2. Ep1logue, OG Tr1umph, and a Preworkout (right now Quake)
3. Following Standard dosing procedure of 2caps pre, 1/1 split on non-training days

again, about 5 weeks in of my 2 bottle run

Was wondering if it was stim related but I haven't changed my stim dosing in a long time
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There may be many reasons why your erection is lowered but it is also interesting there are other guys reporting lowered erection too. Some with 2 caps daily and some with 3 caps daily.

This makes me wonder. Is Urolithin B so potent AI ?
 
Beta said:
1. Difficulty maintaining solid erections
2. Ep1logue, OG Tr1umph, and a Preworkout (right now Quake)
3. Following Standard dosing procedure of 2caps pre, 1/1 split on non-training days

again, about 5 weeks in of my 2 bottle run

Was wondering if it was stim related but I haven't changed my stim dosing in a long time
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For less than the price of a bottle of Ep1logue you can have your estrogen checked. Money well spent.
 
Beta said:
Will definitely explore this option, thanks!
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If you are in a relationship (wife, girlfriend or otherwise), then a sudden drop in libido can create a BIG problem. I speak from experience. My wife thought I was fooling around, and had nothing left in the tank for her. Good luck trying to blame a supplement!
 
slickwillie said:
If you are in a relationship (wife, girlfriend or otherwise), then a sudden drop in libido can create a BIG problem. I speak from experience. My wife thought I was fooling around, and had nothing left in the tank for her. Good luck trying to blame a supplement!
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lmao when I was on tren that sh!t happened to me , but I finnesssed my way out of it haha
 
Has anybody experienced negative side effects? I most certainly did. At 3 weeks of usage i began getting headaches, and began feeling uneasy and dizzy. I pretty much had the symptoms of high blood pressure. I discontinued using it and just a couple of days later i felt normal again. I've been lurking here waiting to see if anybody had any issues but so far I've only seen one post. I wanna hear some feedback.
 
What else are you taking, how's your water intake, any recent stressful situations?

I have been taking EU for over a year continuously and only recently switched to Ep1logue, NO issues at all!
 
francisco said:
Has anybody experienced negative side effects? I most certainly did. At 3 weeks of usage i began getting headaches, and began feeling uneasy and dizzy. I pretty much had the symptoms of high blood pressure. I discontinued using it and just a couple of days later i felt normal again. I've been lurking here waiting to see if anybody had any issues but so far I've only seen one post. I wanna hear some feedback.
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tomorrow im 21 days in; no side effects so far.
 
francisco said:
Has anybody experienced negative side effects? I most certainly did. At 3 weeks of usage i began getting headaches, and began feeling uneasy and dizzy. I pretty much had the symptoms of high blood pressure. I discontinued using it and just a couple of days later i felt normal again. I've been lurking here waiting to see if anybody had any issues but so far I've only seen one post. I wanna hear some feedback.
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Symptoms of high blood pressure? You should have spent 20'' actually checking it, IMO.
hamdysayed said:
if anything I would think it would lower blood pressure since it contain a vasodilator
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Exactly.
 
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Main question is, where is OL labs blood work results? Hate when companies produce products but not show any results-testing themselves.. come at me bro
 
Just started my second bottle this weekend and I still feel great, no sides for me personally. No performance issues in the bedroom at all, if anything libido and erections have been better than normal. Interesting hearing such a spectrum of results
 
carguy123 said:
Just started my second bottle this weekend and I still feel great, no sides for me personally. No performance issues in the bedroom at all, if anything libido and erections have been better than normal. Interesting hearing such a spectrum of results
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same for me. if i feel anything, its an increased libido! quite strange that there are such different experiences
 
carguy123 said:
Just started my second bottle this weekend and I still feel great, no sides for me personally. No performance issues in the bedroom at all, if anything libido and erections have been better than normal. Interesting hearing such a spectrum of results
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Same here. On the second bottle as well. Performance in and out of the gym has improved.
 
Those who experience sides such as feeling suppressed, lowered libido and lowered erection, the bloodwork is the only way to prove the Ep1logue is causing it. (As long as you guys dont run 100s of other supps with it).

We also need to be fair here too. If you guys run 10 other supps (diff AI etc) then you cant blame Ep1logue.

There is definitely possibility Urolithin B is providing strong AI effect and some guys may experience lowered erection ++ due to decreased E levels
 
Danes said:
Those who experience sides such as feeling suppressed, lowered libido and lowered erection, the bloodwork is the only way to prove the Ep1logue is causing it. (As long as you guys dont run 100s of other supps with it).

We also need to be fair here too. If you guys run 10 other supps (diff AI etc) then you cant blame Ep1logue.

There is definitely possibility Urolithin B is providing strong AI effect and some guys may experience lowered erection ++ due to decreased E levels
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Also, since when lower E2 (-IF- this actually happens) automatically translates into lower libido/poor erections? You have to drive it down to zero and even then there's no guarentee (comes to mind a study on Letrozole, the most powerful Rx AI available, where users got their libido improved).

Letrozole versus testosterone. a single-center pilot study of HIV-infected men who have sex with men on highly active anti-retroviral therapy (HAART) with hypoactive sexual desire disorder and raised estradiol levels.

Richardson D1, Goldmeier D, Frize G, Lamba H, De Souza C, Kocsis A, Scullard G.
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Abstract
INTRODUCTION:
Since the advent of Highly Active Anti-Retroviral Therapy (HAART), men with HIV experience good quality of life and expect to have normal sexual function. However, it appears that men infected with HIV commonly complain of sexual problems. We hypothesized that letrozole, an aromatase inhibitor that inhibits the conversion of testosterone to estradiol, would be beneficial in these men.
AIM:
The aim of this study was to compare the effects of testosterone vs. an aromatase inhibitor, letrazole, in HIV-infected men with raised estradiol and low sexual desire.
METHODS:
Thirteen men who have sex with men on HAART with low sexual desire as well as raised estradiol levels (>120 pmol/L) were randomly allocated to receive either parenteral testosterone (Sustanon 250 intramuscular injection) (N = 6) or letrozole 2.5 mg orally daily (N = 7) for 6 weeks.
MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES:
Sex steroid hormone assays, sex hormone-binding globulin, virological, hematological, and biochemical parameters were measured before and after treatment. Each subject was given the Spector Sexual Desire Inventory and the Depression/Anxiety Stress Scale before and immediately after treatment. Subjects were also asked to estimate the number of actual sexual acts before and after treatment. Results. Inventory data showed a rise in dyadic desire in both treatment arms. Mean actual sexual acts rose from 0.43 to 1.29 for the letrozole group. Luteinizing hormone increased in seven of seven men on letrozole. Serum testosterone increased in seven of seven men on letrozole. There were no adverse events from either medication.

FYI, 2.5mg Letro a day makes your E2 UNDETECTABLE, yet their sexual activity tripled. Stop looking at this whole topic as black/white. That's not how it works.
 
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