iamyourfather
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so how can you treat that? is there a way to up your estrogen?
if you stopped the ep1 6 days ago, your estro should come back very soon, you dont think so?
why dont you do bloodwork now?
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so how can you treat that? is there a way to up your estrogen?
if you stopped the ep1 6 days ago, your estro should come back very soon, you dont think so?
why dont you do bloodwork now?
rowz4broz
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Joints feel better libido is still not there..
I wish i could do bloods but
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jh1
Member
Sorry you had such a lousy run with Epilogue. Sounds like a mess. I'm typically very sensitive to Natty ai's as they usually crush my libido. Thankfully haven't experienced that with Epilogue so far, and have been enjoying my run with it. In my previous experience, you should be feeling back to yourself in about 10-12 days after stopping Ep1logue, if it was indeed a low estrogen issue. Best of luck, buddy.
Martyfnemec
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This is something that has been troubling me and it's why I've been following your thread here closely. I admittedly am not a devout follower of OL. I like some of their stuff, but that's the extent of it. Their fans on here are absolutely rabid and attack people for daring to have unaffected side effects, which is made worse when OL reps themselves have the same attitude. I get it. A lot of people who come on and take shots at OL are idiots, but your situation has been pretty normal.You're nearly taking nothing except Ep1 besides some staples everyone takes.
I don't want to take a supplement that includes me having to pay for bloods to prove it is working as intended and that's funny that OL throws that out there so casually. I also don't want to risk having an issue, giving them money, and then risking being treated the way you were if I am having issues and voice them. I had Ep1logue on my list of things to buy this holiday season when some kind of sale came, but I just don't think I can now. I need to see real reviews and results and it is very obvious I'm not going to get REAL honest feedback from their Insider thread. Their cult-like fanbase and aggressive reps have made it so clear that the only acceptable answer is "It's amazing! Pumps! Best thing ever."
It's a shame because they make great stuff. I'll continue to buy the things I like, but at the moment, I will hold off on Ep1.
iamyourfather
Active member
if you go to the doctor and tell him the symptoms of low test, you can ask him if he can check your bloods. so there would be an issue the doctor has to treat. wouldn’t be possible this way? i mean, it must be possible to get bloodwork done in any way or not?!
VO2Maxima
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There is no **** list. If there was, I'm sure I wouldn't be a rep since, a while back, I publicly said one of our products was a waste of money on another forum. Instead, that iteration of that product is gone and it's been updated in such a way that it's no longer a waste and should be a good product. Of course we notice if someone only ever seems to have negative or antagonistic things to say, but don't you notice that in real life too? Doesn't mean I put them on a **** list, I just assume they're a negative person who will rarely contribute anything positive to a conversation. It's just like if someone only has positive things to say, it's nice and we will acknowledge them, but it's not as valuable as someone who was always honest. But if someone has a reputation for being honest, all feedback is considered, both positive and negative.
And yes, the team is monitoring this topic, and our R&D team is taking all concerns seriously. Just because we aren't responding in topic doesn't mean our team isn't listening to your feedback and taking what you have to say seriously.
rowz4broz
Well-known member
Glad to hear. Because as I mentioned earlier in this thread I am a fan of TRIUMPH and data on velositil looks very good.
However, responses show acknowledgment, which is think I key especially in a market like this.
00A
Well-known member
If they do then dump all there products.. why should they act like this towards you, when they in the wrong from not doing proper RnD..
00A
Well-known member
I appreciate your post, but your team is to sensitive to the word “negative” i posted in the main other Epi thread and first thing is attitude from GNO like im on a attack, i posted many postive comments 90percent praise the OL team, as a customer when I want information and get shut down, im sorry but whole team should man up and actually provide proper replies if person is negative or positive... a blood test in 21st century i thought is a must specially when backing up a Very new product..
Ps Im not working for any companies! Lets not make conspiracy theories out all this..
iamyourfather
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00A
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GNO provided some excuse why he didnt, but I see no mention of any RnD processes, results etc and the product is new to the market, not enough human studies. This all i asked, then now its esculated..
Woody
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I am not on the forum as much as I used to be - but am always available via PM or email. I'm trying to catch up on this thread and gather all of the concerns.
I can say that you won't be on the non-existent OL **** list because you dislike a product. You are entitled to your opinion and we need opinions in order to grow and improve as a company. We are not perfect and are definitely not above customer feedback.
Admittedly, I don't frequent the forums much anymore and have not read every response, but I haven't seen any intentional condescending responses. It's hard to convey tone through a forum and I think tone is lost in translation. However, I'd like to apologize on behalf of OL for any immature and unprofessional responses. We do value and appreciate our customers.
Our R&D team is an actual R&D team. There is a reason a lot of stuff gets pushed back. You guys don't see the testing that we do, the different variations of products we go through, the studies we pour through, etc. You just see the end result. There are a lot of reasons as to why we don't share everything. Trade secrets, confidentiality, patents, etc. are a part of it.
Reps aren't full time OL employees. It's very easy for us to miss questions or concerns, especially given the volume of posts in some of our threads. I know this doesn't address every concern that's been posted here. I haven't read through the entire thread yet, but thought an immediate response was warranted given what I had read.
I can say that you won't be on the non-existent OL **** list because you dislike a product. You are entitled to your opinion and we need opinions in order to grow and improve as a company. We are not perfect and are definitely not above customer feedback.
Admittedly, I don't frequent the forums much anymore and have not read every response, but I haven't seen any intentional condescending responses. It's hard to convey tone through a forum and I think tone is lost in translation. However, I'd like to apologize on behalf of OL for any immature and unprofessional responses. We do value and appreciate our customers.
Our R&D team is an actual R&D team. There is a reason a lot of stuff gets pushed back. You guys don't see the testing that we do, the different variations of products we go through, the studies we pour through, etc. You just see the end result. There are a lot of reasons as to why we don't share everything. Trade secrets, confidentiality, patents, etc. are a part of it.
Reps aren't full time OL employees. It's very easy for us to miss questions or concerns, especially given the volume of posts in some of our threads. I know this doesn't address every concern that's been posted here. I haven't read through the entire thread yet, but thought an immediate response was warranted given what I had read.
jh1
Member
Very nicely put, Woody. Hope to see you back on the forums more frequently.
iamyourfather
Active member
so about 1 week after stopping the ep1 the issues are gone?
rowz4broz
Well-known member
Still not feeling too aroused - libido wise
OL Kingsblood came in the mail yday (OL REPS I DO NOT DISLIKE OL)
I purchased alphamax and was going to use that as an OTC PTC but due to the DHAA i decided not too incase my estro is crushed as someones bloodwork in the OL thread showed.
Kingsblood contains a a form of DIM - which is VERY mild in estro management so it seemed like the smart choice
OL Kingsblood came in the mail yday (OL REPS I DO NOT DISLIKE OL)
I purchased alphamax and was going to use that as an OTC PTC but due to the DHAA i decided not too incase my estro is crushed as someones bloodwork in the OL thread showed.
Kingsblood contains a a form of DIM - which is VERY mild in estro management so it seemed like the smart choice
jt75
Well-known member
Use the Alphamax xt you will love it. Estrogen will be managed not crushed. Libido will come back with a vengeance and you will have the feelgood factor with the ashwagandha
rowz4broz
Well-known member
Alrighty folks gonna finish up this log.. As I seem to be one of the handful of people who have reported sides publicly feel free to PM me about anything .... Just wanted to say
99 percent sure the joint issues were related to EP1LOUGE
-I feel like i confidently say that because in my OP you will see that I mentioned I used FD2 religiously for months and never had these sort of issues due to "over training" in fact I am so sure it is not epi related I have went and purchased another epi product for 4 months run (proof below) and you know what, since I bring a no bull**** approach to this if in a week or two I start having these joint pains again ill post that in here.
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without bloodwork I can not say if I was truly suppressed or suppressed to any level but I had (still sorta have) very little sexual drive
lethargy has been less noticeable and I am very happy about that
I leave you all with this... on paper Uro B has some amazing potential... I truly ENVY all of you who can run it and feel good to go. ESP with there new product... that dose of laxo is HUUUUUGE and I wanted to grab some but cannot due to the Uro B. (Really hoping the protein will not have Uro B maybe a rep can confirm?)
I pick no favorites in who I buy my supplements from - If u deliver a product that works and my body agrees I will be happy to give you my money
thanks for everyone who tagged along for the ride and also for the few people who PM'd me to offer advice or let me know they were in a similar situation so I wasn't thinking I was crazy
99 percent sure the joint issues were related to EP1LOUGE
-I feel like i confidently say that because in my OP you will see that I mentioned I used FD2 religiously for months and never had these sort of issues due to "over training" in fact I am so sure it is not epi related I have went and purchased another epi product for 4 months run (proof below) and you know what, since I bring a no bull**** approach to this if in a week or two I start having these joint pains again ill post that in here.
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without bloodwork I can not say if I was truly suppressed or suppressed to any level but I had (still sorta have) very little sexual drive
lethargy has been less noticeable and I am very happy about that
I leave you all with this... on paper Uro B has some amazing potential... I truly ENVY all of you who can run it and feel good to go. ESP with there new product... that dose of laxo is HUUUUUGE and I wanted to grab some but cannot due to the Uro B. (Really hoping the protein will not have Uro B maybe a rep can confirm?)
I pick no favorites in who I buy my supplements from - If u deliver a product that works and my body agrees I will be happy to give you my money
thanks for everyone who tagged along for the ride and also for the few people who PM'd me to offer advice or let me know they were in a similar situation so I wasn't thinking I was crazy
rowz4broz
Well-known member
Thank you.
cubalibre000
New member
Hi to all,
I'm using Ep1logue and I've the same result as I was using Reg1n, my erection is decreased. At the moment my priority is to grow, but understand the problem who has the girlfriend.
I'm using Ep1logue and I've the same result as I was using Reg1n, my erection is decreased. At the moment my priority is to grow, but understand the problem who has the girlfriend.
jt75
Well-known member
Your girlfriends priority is not for you to grow but to pleasure her when she wants you to, otherwise she will find someone who will
cubalibre000
New member
I don't have girfriend at the moment. After 14 years I've free time for me and I want to do what I've not done with her. Time for me.
jtmass
Well-known member
The only common ingredient in Re1gn and Ep1logue is Vaso6. I highly doubt that’s causing the problem. Are you a heavy stim user. I ask this because I have 2 bottles of Ep1logue to run and all these feedbacks are getting me over the edge.
iamyourfather
Active member
my libido was increased during my 12 weeks of ep1logue. if anything. but i dont even really get a „stim dick“ from re1gn.
cubalibre000
New member
I was a fan of Olympus Labs when I start to use pre-workouts and after try a lots of products, the only I felt very strong, was Conqu3r. After that I started to use all products of Olympus Labs, Tr1umph, Or1gin, Ep1logue, Reg1n, etc...and sincerly I not was satisfied. I think they was started a little and very interesting company, but after become leader in supplement they become a seller of air. This is my opinion and experience.
cubalibre000
New member
Before to post an opinion about a supplement I attend that someone had my same effect. I'm using Ep1logue and I'm not alone about libido problem.
I used Reg1n and I've had the same effect like other. For example, when I used Reg1n, my dick become very little for hours, like when I put the dick in a fresh water. I only write my expreience, others don't have my problem.
jtmass
Well-known member
I didn’t have a problem the first week of Re1gn. But it came on when I continued the use. So we have 2-3 users reporting negative effects post Ep1logue run and quite a few with positives.
iamyourfather
Active member
imho no one should use this kind of stims everyday; its a question of time when you are running into problems. its absolutely normal to have amphetamine-like side effects from amphetamine-similar derivates.
yes, the negative effects a few experience with ep1logue are weird. but most of the users just feel very good on it. start it and see how you react, theres no other way to check how your body responds to the urolithin B.
vic21234
New member
I am preparing to start a run of Ep1 after a break from a recent 8 week run of Massacre (which has the same UroB amount but with Laxo in place of Epi). I experienced no libido related side effects, and have not felt suppressed in any way. I'm interested in seeing others experiences with this compound.
iamyourfather
Active member
no side effects.