I see a lot of people have had good results from Ep1logue Olympus Labs is this bs or does it actually aid with lean mass growth?
2nd the Follidrone 2.0Run both, Uro B didn't give me the insane pumps people claimed. I'm sure as an Epi product it works great for others, just not for me. Follidrone over Ep1logue any day for me. The recomp is more acute on it.
That's because your bigsmallsHalf of ep1lougue is vaso6 right? Seems shady. I tried two bottles and it did not come close to Folidrone.
Well if we are going into whats in it, phytosome (-)-epicathechin —> (-)-epicathechin molecule bonded to a very high % purity phosphatidylcholine molecule on a 1:1 ratio is substantially superior and more expensive than any other (-)-epicathechin with added seperate “absorption enhancers”.Half of ep1lougue is vaso6 right? Seems shady. I tried two bottles and it did not come close to Folidrone.
How is that shady the doses are disclosed on the label?Half of ep1lougue is vaso6 right? Seems shady. I tried two bottles and it did not come close to Folidrone.
That's because your bigsmalls
You know a ton about Epicatechin and seem to be a huge proponent of it. I’ve seen some of your other post and I have to agree. Maybe some respond really well to it Vs others who get nothing. Personally, Epicatechin is extremely potent for myself. I was skeptical until I tried it and in high doses. Really want to run 2grams of it and see what happens , lolWell if we are going into whats in it, phytosome (-)-epicathechin —> (-)-epicathechin molecule bonded to a very high % purity phosphatidylcholine molecule on a 1:1 ratio is substantially superior and more expensive than any other (-)-epicathechin with added seperate “absorption enhancers”.
But who cares about science.
It will give you a pump? Not sure if that will aid in lean mass growthI see a lot of people have had good results from Ep1logue Olympus Labs is this bs or does it actually aid with lean mass growth?
It will give you a pump? Not sure if that will aid in lean mass growthI see a lot of people have had good results from Ep1logue Olympus Labs is this bs or does it actually aid with lean mass growth?
Well we spend significant amount of time and $$ over the past four years researching and testing a raft of potential new compounds and improving their bio-availability, with (-)-epicathechin being one of personally respond very well and have studied in great detail. We have been able to improve the process of producing the phytosomal version and brought down costs quite a lot in the process, hence the large dose in Ep1logue.You know a ton about Epicatechin and seem to be a huge proponent of it. I’ve seen some of your other post and I have to agree. Maybe some respond really well to it Vs others who get nothing. Personally, Epicatechin is extremely potent for myself. I was skeptical until I tried it and in high doses. Really want to run 2grams of it and see what happens , lol
That’s amazing and I had no idea you were with OL . Do you guys have any new stuff to release soon ?Well we spend significant amount of time and $$ over the past four years researching and testing a raft of potential new compounds and improving their bio-availability, with (-)-epicathechin being one of personally respond very well and have studied in great detail. We have been able to improve the process of producing the phytosomal version and brought down costs quite a lot in the process, hence the large dose in Ep1logue.
Wow - that's impressive bro. You can copy and paste big words and impressive terms.Well if we are going into whats in it, phytosome (-)-epicathechin —> (-)-epicathechin molecule bonded to a very high % purity phosphatidylcholine molecule on a 1:1 ratio is substantially superior and more expensive than any other (-)-epicathechin with added seperate “absorption enhancers”.
But who cares about science.
Are you saying that Ep1logue is just filling the formula with primarily Vaso 6? I tried Vaso 6 on its own and it gives a nice effect but I don’t think it was near Ep1logue.obviously similar as ep1 contains Vaso but not the strength and running the two were different.Wow - that's impressive bro. You can copy and paste big words and impressive terms.
But nothing about vaso6?
Please impress us as to why is 1/2 the ingredients (enough to fill one of the two daily caps) is made up of ultra cheap vaso6?
Well Ep1logue has three ingredients totaling 1050mg.Wow - that's impressive bro. You can copy and paste big words and impressive terms.
Please impress us as to why is 1/2 the ingredients (enough to fill one of the two daily caps) is made up of ultra cheap vaso6?
The same size serving of vaso6 that SNS uses takes around one cap to fill, right? Ep1lougues uses the same serving of vaso6 as SNS. Ep1ilouges daily dose is two caps. Seems to me that vaso6 makes up for about half Ep1louges content?Are you saying that Ep1logue is just filling the formula with primarily Vaso 6? I tried Vaso 6 on its own and it gives a nice effect but I don’t think it was near Ep1logue.obviously similar as ep1 contains Vaso but not the strength and running the two were different.
I’m curious , though. What exactly is Uro B ? Pomegranate extract ? Can we source uro b as a single ingredient ?
Hm, well what about the magnesium in Vaso 6 ? Could that be used as filler?The same size serving of vaso6 that SNS uses takes around one cap to fill, right? Ep1lougues uses the same serving of vaso6 as SNS. Ep1ilouges daily dose is two caps. Seems to me that vaso6 makes up for about half Ep1louges content?
I’ve tried EGCG and Vaso 6 . EGCG cant touch epicatechin or vaso6. Doesn’t even come close. Maybe for more focus and nootropic benefitsWell Ep1logue has three ingredients totaling 1050mg.
Vaso6 is included at the efficacious dosage of 300mg. Ultra cheap? have you actually gotten a quote on what the stuff is per KG? or you just talking bout of your A*rse? it is exponentially (by a factor of 20x +) compared to regular green tea/grapeseed extracts.
so yeah 300mg of 1050mg is 1/2. cool story bro.
You seriously have to be trolling with that analysis.The same size serving of vaso6 that SNS uses takes around one cap to fill, right? Ep1lougues uses the same serving of vaso6 as SNS. Ep1ilouges daily dose is two caps. Seems to me that vaso6 makes up for about half Ep1louges content?
Not at all. Its just about the amount of cap space vaso6 takes vs the daily Ep1ilougue two cap serving. Simple and straight forward, no?You seriously have to be trolling with that analysis.
Where are you even going with this odd argument? You do realize companies add fillers to these caps also, right?Not at all. Its just about the amount of cap space vaso6 takes vs the daily Ep1ilougue two cap serving. Simple and straight forward, no?
lol... you really have no idea how badly you're embarrassing yourself, do you?Not at all. Its just about the amount of cap space vaso6 takes vs the daily Ep1ilougue two cap serving. Simple and straight forward, no?
Ok sorry if I came off rude so if this is serious I’ll attempt to answer.Not at all. Its just about the amount of cap space vaso6 takes vs the daily Ep1ilougue two cap serving. Simple and straight forward, no?
The amount of each ingredient is listed on the label. Why are we even looking at the capsules?Not at all. Its just about the amount of cap space vaso6 takes vs the daily Ep1ilougue two cap serving. Simple and straight forward, no?
No I have no idea. Its an extremely straight forward, easy to understand observation.lol... you really have no idea how badly you're embarrassing yourself, do you?
SNS vaso6 does not list any fillers and its single ingredient fits tightly into one cap of a similar size to Ep1ilouge's cap. So SNS is probably using a filler, but not listing it. That would make sense.....if that is the case, thanks for pointing it out.Ok sorry if I came off rude so if this is serious I’ll attempt to answer.
That isn’t really how it works.
NAH covered the actual breakdown (300mg out of a 1050mg blend, which isn’t hidden in any prop blend), so let’s look at the actual capsule(s).
While SNS Vaso6 is 300mgs in a similar sized cap, that isn’t how you should measure or compare to other products. 300mgs isn’t a lot and I’d assume there is a bit of “filler” (usually something just to take space.) This is done to allow the actual packing of the cap to be done effectively and keep the integrity of the capsules (so they don’t break apart during transportation, etc).
Therefore you can’t use the size of the pill to solely determine the amount of active. That’s why it’s nice when you have a company like Olympus Labs who doesn’t hide their epicatechin dose in a proprietary blend, you know exactly how much of that and the other ingredients are in the pills.
So SNS is probably adding filler, but not listing it. If that is the case, I did not realize that - thanks for pointing it out.Where are you even going with this odd argument? You do realize companies add fillers to these caps lso, right?
Is it bad I didn’t want to respond because you are so predictable I knew you’d try to spin this against SNS by acting like using filler is a negative.So SNS is probably adding filler, but not listing it. If that is the case, I did not realize that - thanks for pointing it out.
Fillers are listed in the “other ingredients” part of the label. Unless you are trying to hide the true amount of active and put things like corn flour into the actives part...Is it bad I didn’t want to respond because you are so predictable I knew you’d try to spin this against SNS by acting like using filler is a negative.
I tried to be nice but at this point you are either purposely being a dick with an agenda or literally just too dense to converse with.
In case anyone is worried, no there isn’t unlisted filler, like all reputable brands it’s listed under OTHER INGREDIENTS. So you know things not listed in the 300mgs blend.
Honestly I only remember one company listing the filler purposely like that in the actual blend, but I doubt you have any problems with them or that type of tactic in that case.
Fillers are listed in the “other ingredients” part of the label. Unless you are trying to hide the true amount of active and put things like corn flour into the actives part...
Haha shet i didnt see the second half of your post on my mobile, sorry for repeating exactly what you wrote.
I am seriously not trying spin anything. I am just trying to understand - and if their is a filler, that would explain things. Thanks for explaining it. I use SNS vaso6 a few times a week and have used a couple of bottles of Ep1ilougue.Is it bad I didn’t want to respond because you are so predictable I knew you’d try to spin this against SNS by acting like using filler is a negative.
I tried to be nice but at this point you are either purposely being a dick with an agenda or literally just too dense to converse with.
In case anyone is worried, no there isn’t unlisted filler, like all reputable brands it’s listed under OTHER INGREDIENTS. So you know things not listed in the 300mgs blend.
Honestly I only remember one company listing the filler purposely like that in the actual blend, but I doubt you have any problems with them or that type of tactic in that case.
Ah your right - I see that now. Thanks....Fillers are listed in the “other ingredients” part of the label. Unless you are trying to hide the true amount of active and put things like corn flour into the actives part...
I often act like an ass. Anyone who I do this to I apologize, I’m pretty laid back I promise.I have been going through some big changes in my life recently and its coming out in a bad attitude. It's no excuse for me acting like a dick. I apologize. I know it could be seen as stupid, but I seriously did not understand that fillers were used that way.
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