Energy Drinks 101

I'm glad they still had some in stock. Muscle Addiction has been out of stock on it for awhile now. They're supposed to have it back in stock week after next I believe. I think the Blue Raspberry Lemonade will be back in first and then the Candy Explosion probably a week later.

I like the flavors. That product has some truly great but truly hard to flavor ingredients in there. It doesn't taste like some of your pre's that have very little in them and taste like Kool Aid + Caffeine but for what they have in them, I think the flavors are good.

If you're stim sensitive at all, start off with one scoop.

Funny story - I had tasted it before but the first time I ever drank 2 scoops was one day that I was helping clean out an old barn on a farm. It had a lot of stuff in there and I had worked until like 2 am the night before so I was dragging. Keep in mind I'm not hyper or an energetic person at all. I never have been and now days I hurt and feel like crap most of the time from my autoimmune condition so I'm good at faking being 'normal' I guess you would say, but definitely not energetic. And I'm pretty stim tolerant so I figured what the heck, I needed to wake up. It was comical - it would have probably made for a good parody or cartoon type skit because we were moving old farm stuff, furniture, etc. and lots of trips up and down old barn steps and I'm hyped up. Like 4 hours in and everyone else is about to die and I'm like - what's next. They're taking breaks and I'm moving stuff that I didn't even have to move just to organize and stay busy. Everyone was like wtf is wrong with you? It was great haha.
Well, that's not the OOS items that BPN has told me is delaying the order... but I still haven't had it shipped yet so...
Please throw a review
Will do!
I see this said for almost any product that has a diagonal label style; which I think is a good example of how good of a job BPI does with their advertising to make people associate almost every diagonal label style with theirs. The first one that I saw that size was the original Labrada Charge product and I actually saw someone in recent years say Labrada copied BPI when Labrada had charge before I even knew BPI was a company. Fahrenheit uses a diagonal style as well.

I spend time looking at so many labels that I don't see the similarity in the Muscle Addiction labels and BPI's at all past the diagonal aspect. Logos completely different, placement of tag lines and info is different; BPI doesn't have the advisory boxes, colors are completely different etc.

If you look at Muscle Addictions capsule bottles like the EpiAndro300 and EpiAndro Lean, they look nothing like BPI's in my opinion. If you look at the powder products, I can see more of the similarity bc the diagonal placement is so associated with BPI but they weren't meant to have anything to do with BPI, they were just basically a shrink sleeve version of their capsule labels. And the neckband actually resembles the Super Swole neckband more than it does the BPI ones that I've seen.
There's so much copying in this industry, formulas, branding, etc. Not a knock on anyone in particular, just facts.
 
Well, that's not the OOS items that BPN has told me is delaying the order... but I still haven't had it shipped yet so...Will do!There's so much copying in this industry, formulas, branding, etc. Not a knock on anyone in particular, just facts.

I look forward to hearing your thoughts on it.

As far as copying, I was just explaining that it seems like people say that anyone with a diagonal name on the label copies BPI when it wasn't even BPI that was the first to have that. But also, that shows that BPI does do a great job with marketing to create that perception. And also explaining that if you look at the Muscle Addiction EpiAndro label for example, it actually doesn't look like BPI's capsule labels in my opinion; so then, armed with that perception, you can see how the adding the neckband for a shrink sleeve was just the logical step for a powder product.

I think there is copying in every industry. As for this industry, I worry a lot more about quality control than I do copying. A great example is that one UK 'company', and I put company in quotation marks bc I question the legitimacy of pretty much everything by them - so they tried to mostly copy M-Test. The problem is that apparently someone there didn't have the knowledge to realize that the doses they claimed on their labels is literally impossible per the capsule count. So either their contract manufacturer is lying to them or they're lying to consumers.

Another example - there's a company that literally started by copying 3 of our products. They were selling good for a particular retailer so that company does those 3 and conveniently starts selling only thru that retailer. They just went the flashy label route and were charging more than us for about half the quantity on two of them. It was irritating, but I just thought of it more as competition than copying. And the positive in it is that it shows people how good of a value that ours are.

Ingredient wise, there is copying, we've had it happen to us plenty of times. But we also have an industry where there's not but so many ingredients and there are so many companies that sometimes when a company plays around with different ingredient combinations, there are going to be commonalities. Example - almost every mainstream pre-workout has at least 3 to 5 of the same ingredients.

But I also think that a lot of companies like to play the victim card on the copying thing.
Here's a great example - I had someone accuse me of having an interest in another company because I spoke highly of their product; and the same person insinuated that that company copied the company they're associated with by releasing that product. Now, here's the irony - I was the first person to bring that ingredient to market as a topical under CEL in either 08 or 09. CEL stopped making all topical products in either 2011 or 2012, I don't remember exactly. A couple years later, another company started selling it as a topical. I didn't think anything of it; I didn't think of it as copying, I thought of it just as business was business. Fast forward to 2019, I license the product name to a company on the condition that they quality test every single batch of raws and use a specific td carrier (so yes, I speak very highly of it bc I know 100% that the raw materials are tested on every batch and the carrier is excellent) and then get accused of them copying their product. What makes it even more ironic is that the history of the product including licensing it is even listed in the write up. Now, I'm not upset at all about this, found it more funny than anything; but that's just an example of how sometimes companies claiming copying isn't always what it seems lol.
 
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same here . Recently quit energy drinks. Drank one the other day and felt like there was a toxicity to my body. Also, after you stop , they start to taste gross

The only ones I really still enjoy drinking are monster... the green and blue ones taste amazing but they just taste like chemicals to me now, so I make it a treat type of thing when I get one now.
 
@sns8778 , for desk work, how long does the energy and mental clarity in FocusXT typically last?
 
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my desktop job .. i would say i stay focused for 2 good hrs ..sustained energy .. im not too much of a caffine guy .. here and there ill take a can or 2 of energy drink but focusXT has been staple and i keep it at work for dragging days
 
@sns8778 , for desk work, how long does the energy and mental clarity in FocusXT typically last?

I would say on average probably 4 hours or so as far as the mental clarity aspect and feel good mental energy part. For many people, the focus aspect may last up to 6 hours.

Something else is that Focus XT is pretty much the perfect nootropic base and when used consistently, baseline focus and concentration levels are increased for many people in general.
 
What's everyone's take on sipping FocusXT over time vs glugging?
 
What's everyone's take on sipping FocusXT over time vs glugging?
i have done it both ways ..

if Preworkout - throw in my creatine or taking it with vasoforce .. i guzzle it down quickly

if for work - which is what im using it now .. i like to sip slowly over time like energy drinks.

i have used it as intra workout as well w/ throwing in bulk bcaa

but i like the sipping approach as i enjoy the flavor very much
 
What's everyone's take on sipping FocusXT over time vs glugging?

I've done it both ways but I usually sip on it like I would an energy drink.
 
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