end of 1-andro, 4-ad rde, mass drop cycle

schroedes

schroedes

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well i start pct tomorrow, 8 week cycle, had 1 bottle of 1-andro rde, 2 bottles of 4-ad rde, and 1 bottle of mass drops. started mass drops 2 weeks in. i also ran 6-bromo and all my other regular supps with this cycle. right now im up about 8 lbs, maybe a little fat in there,not much tho, good strength gains and pumps while on this. only sides i had were maybe some increased anger issues, which i dont need lol, was sheddin a little hair towards the end too, and some lethargy here and there as well. pct is torem, toco-8, titanium xl and other staple supps. increased my dosage of the mass drops towards the end and really felt strong and pumped. i didnt even use my whole bottle, i still have half the bottle left. i would like to run this cycle again and increase the dosage from the start and see what i can get. im satisfied with my results and will be runnin this stuff again.
 
schroedes said:
well i start pct tomorrow, 8 week cycle, had 1 bottle of 1-andro rde, 2 bottles of 4-ad rde, and 1 bottle of mass drops. started mass drops 2 weeks in. i also ran 6-bromo and all my other regular supps with this cycle. right now im up about 8 lbs, maybe a little fat in there,not much tho, good strength gains and pumps while on this. only sides i had were maybe some increased anger issues, which i dont need lol, was sheddin a little hair towards the end too, and some lethargy here and there as well. pct is torem, toco-8, titanium xl and other staple supps. increased my dosage of the mass drops towards the end and really felt strong and pumped. i didnt even use my whole bottle, i still have half the bottle left. i would like to run this cycle again and increase the dosage from the start and see what i can get. im satisfied with my results and will be runnin this stuff again.
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Awesome to hear you had a good run!
 
Solid run bro..thanks
 
6 days on pct of torem and titanium, actually gained 2 more pounds, so im up 10 pounds with this cycle without any noticeable increase in fat.
 
Yeah we suspect that 1-androsterone has a very long half life. One dose was still found in the system of an older gentleman 8 days later. Your gains could still be attributed to that...
 
Royd The Noyd said:
Yeah we suspect that 1-androsterone has a very long half life. One dose was still found in the system of an older gentleman 8 days later. Your gains could still be attributed to that...
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prob why im still sheddin a little hair, better grow back, wonder how long the half life is on it, hmm. hit torem at 120 for the first 2 days then dropped it down to 60, dont feel shut down, slight strength decrease maybe
 
schroedes said:
6 days on pct of torem and titanium, actually gained 2 more pounds, so im up 10 pounds with this cycle without any noticeable increase in fat.
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Nice on +10 lbs. what was your diet like? Bulk, recomp ??
 
dallasboy22 said:
I see you ran 6-bromo on cycle. Is it recommended to run an AI with AMS products while on ?
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Not really needed. The 4ad would be the one that could potentially aromatize to any degree, but even then it would be minor and you could either reduce the dosage, which would take care of the issue most of the time, or stop the4ad all together.
 
Little update. Just finished my pct of torem and titanium xl and toco 8 with some 6-bromo thrown in at the end. Getting my test levels checked this upcoming Saturday. will let you guys know the results
 
i am too, if my levels are good i just might jump on cycle again soon, have a bottle of epi, a bottle of dermacrine, bottle of decavol rde, and half a bottle of mass drops. any advices on making a stack out of this, was gona just go epi and derm, but maybe i could throw the deca in at the end?
 
Test came back at 612, so either these AMS products aren't very suppressive or my torem kicked ass. Time for another cycle
 
schroedes said:
Test came back at 612, so either these AMS products aren't very suppressive or my torem kicked ass. Time for another cycle
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DAMN bro , what where your results? Strength and weight wise I mean

Edit: saw the main thread , 8 lbs and no suppression after good pct oO not bad!!
 
Celorza said:
DAMN bro , what where your results? Strength and weight wise I mean

Edit: saw the main thread , 8 lbs and no suppression after good pct oO not bad!!
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decent strength gains, im actually up 11 lbs right now, good pumps and aggression in tthe gym and the pecker stayed strong, torem rocks as well
 
schroedes said:
Test came back at 612, so either these AMS products aren't very suppressive or my torem kicked ass. Time for another cycle
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Perhaps a combo of the two? Torem is actually my preferred the majority of the time and I usually start higher, but taper off a lot faster then some of the more common dosing patterns on the boards.
 
Is it likely that his test levels would have dropped significantly if he hadn't taken torem? Do most people use a formal PCT regimen or just stick with Arom-X?
 
SpicedCider said:
Is it likely that his test levels would have dropped significantly if he hadn't taken torem? Do most people use a formal PCT regimen or just stick with Arom-X?
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It is possible that it did. Only we won't know since he does not have any bloodwork mid cycle or so.
 
Also with the on cycle bloodwork I'm seeing 4-ad is maintaining on average 50-100% of natural testosterone levels on cycle. It's hard to quantify though since there are no controls involved.
 
schroedes said:
Test came back at 612, so either these AMS products aren't very suppressive or my torem kicked ass. Time for another cycle
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Did u get your bloods done right after pct or waited a bit?
 
I think you can see why Royd is asking what all was tested. Your testosterone levels are not your only concerns and shouldn't be. It is possible that your test levels are within normal parameters, but have other systems off skew still.
 
Really need to cut. Have some stubborn fat. Diet is good and doing cardio. You may have a point though. Still have a bottle of decavol and massdrops, maybe I'll run that instead
 
schroedes said:
Really need to cut. Have some stubborn fat. Diet is good and doing cardio. You may have a point though. Still have a bottle of decavol and massdrops, maybe I'll run that instead
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I like to start a diet by slowly increasing cardio, and dropping my carbs pretty low but maintaining moderate fat intake, and high protein. Then when I drop below 10% body fat, I go on cycle, drop fat as low as possible, keep protein high, and add moderate carbs. From there workouts get awesome even while dieting hard. You keep lowering carbs and increasing cardio until you reach your goal...which hopefully is before the end of the cycle. :)
 
I've been really trying to cut the carbs out , what's your diet consist of each day? How many calories
 
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brian621 said:
I'm starting "Mass Drops" tomorrow with "Augmentor". I'll let you know how my progress goes.
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Awesome!
 
Friend of mine just started the rd tabs and he days it takes upwards of 10 min to dissolve under his tongue while sipping water because of sweetness and dryness.

How has everyone been taking these? Is there a better way for him?

Thanks
 
Cordeen said:
Friend of mine just started the rd tabs and he days it takes upwards of 10 min to dissolve under his tongue while sipping water because of sweetness and dryness.

How has everyone been taking these? Is there a better way for him?

Thanks
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score the tab or lightly bite it within your mouth and shuffle it under your licker. Makes it dissolve in five minutes or less.


schroedes said:
Rd? Or rde? Rds took forever. The new ones are pretty quick though
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Good thread man. How did the whole hair loss thing end up working out? I am definitely not trying to have that happen to me.
 
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