Emax lmg, methyl plex xt or epistane??

[arnold84]

Im planning a bulking cycle for the new year and cant decide which one to go for!? i've done 2 superdrol cycles in the past with good results, but want to try something different. Are alri's emax lmg and sns methyl plex xt the same compound and both a clone of AX's phera plex??. Also considering IBE's epistane, what are people experiences with these products in terms of sides and gains?

Thanks arnold

 

[SwolE Mammoth]

emax LMG? Is that like ergomax LMG? I've been looking for something similar to that. It has been hands down the best ph I've taken for gains vs. sides. Ergomax LMG is off the market though.

 

[arnold84]

emax LMG? Is that like ergomax LMG? I've been looking for something similar to that. It has been hands down the best ph I've taken for gains vs. sides. Ergomax LMG is off the market though.

Yes its the same as AX'S ergomax but you can still get Alri's ergomax lmg in the uk

what other designer steriods have you tryed? also what kind of gains did you make of emax?

 

[Irish Cannon]

Ergomax was good to me. I took it when it was first popular, about two years ago. Ran it with Prostanozol.

 

[arnold84]

Ergomax was good to me. I took it when it was first popular, about two years ago. Ran it with Prostanozol.

What type of gains did you make off it? lean/wet? also how did you findthe strenght increase?

 

[Irish Cannon]

What type of gains did you make off it? lean/wet? also how did you findthe strenght increase?

Here was a picture of me a little over two years ago while I was on the cycle. I was taking 30mg Ergomax, 150mg Prostan, and 750mg Test E at the time...

Note to everyone: my hair has been cut, I've grown a sweet lumberjack beard, and put on about 15lbs. I was 198lbs in that picture. 5'8"

 

[SwolE Mammoth]

I did 4 weeks ergomax 4 weeks off 4 weeks on again. Is it mildy wet. I felt amazing on it. I put on close to 20 lbs.

 

[arnold84]

wow 20lbs! what was the strenght increase like?
hmm so looks like im swaying towards ergomax over pheraplex

 

[ReaperX]

Irish when you say 750mg of Test E, is that 750mg of Test E each day ?

 

[SwolE Mammoth]

wow 20lbs! what was the strenght increase like?
hmm so looks like im swaying towards ergomax over pheraplex

remember, that was two cycles back to back though. It was my first cycle(s) and I have never gained as much as I did from that stuff since then. I think it was because it was my first time though. I wouldn't say the strength increase was amazing, but it was good. Anytime I have any exo hormones in me I feel invincible anways. You think you can't do any more reps and the stuff just helps you to throw up more and more weight.

 

[SwolE Mammoth]

Irish when you say 750mg of Test E, is that 750mg of Test E each day ?

:wtf::fool2::toofunny:

 

[arnold84]

Irish when you say 750mg of Test E, is that 750mg of Test E each day ?

i very much doubt that! lol think he means every week!

 

[Irish Cannon]

Irish when you say 750mg of Test E, is that 750mg of Test E each day ?

Definitely not. I meant 750mg EW. Although I did do 200mg TP ED a little over a year ago!

 

[Pimp C]

get magnadrol by BOSC. it's alri's ergomax lmg and prostanazol stacked together. they bought the raws from alri

 

[arnold84]

get magnadrol by BOSC. it's alri's ergomax lmg and prostanazol stacked together. they bought the raws from alri

Is prostanazol methlated? and what are is properties?

 

[Wilderbeast]

Ergomax is more androgenic than Pheraplex. You may gain more overall weight with Ergomax, but chances are after your PCT your actuall retained gains will be similar or possibly a little bit higher with Pheraplex due to it being chemically more anabolic by nature.

 

[Wilderbeast]

prostan is not methylated. ergo is.

so its a 1/2 methyl 1/2 non-methyl stacked product.

 

[Wilderbeast]

prostanazol is basically orastan-E. (non-methylated winstrol)

 

[arnold84]

Ergomax is more androgenic than Pheraplex. You may gain more overall weight with Ergomax, but chances are after your post cycle therapy your actuall retained gains will be similar or possibly a little bit higher with Pheraplex due to it being chemically more anabolic by nature.

do you know of any charts showing the anabolic/androgenic ratios of prohormones inc phera plex and ergo?

prostanazol is basically orastan-E. (non-methylated winstrol)

now you mention it i have heard about it, dont you have to do high does though to get good effect because its not methylated?

 

[arnold84]

Ergomax is more androgenic than Pheraplex. You may gain more overall weight with Ergomax, but chances are after your post cycle therapy your actuall retained gains will be similar or possibly a little bit higher with Pheraplex due to it being chemically more anabolic by nature.

ok so egro being more androgenic does that mean more chance of sides like acne than wiv phera?

 

[Wilderbeast]

Ergomax LMG and Pheraplex are very chemically similar.
They are basically the same base compound BUT

Ergomax LMG = 70% alpha isomer and 30% beta isomer

Where as,

Pheraplex = 97+% alpha isomer <3% beta isomer
(depending on the clone the beta isomer variation from 0-3% or even a bit more is possible)

The beta isomer = more androgenic, less anabolic
The alpha isomer = more anabolic, less androgenic

And generally speaking,YES, the more androgenic the compound the more sides that will be associated with it.
More androgenic compunds tend to be the compounds with higher affinity for estrogen aromatization.

On the orastan-E, because it is unmethylated you need to use a higher doasge of it AND/OR stack it with some bioprene or an amplifier like AX Trisorbagen.

Back when i ran Orastan-E with Halodrol-50(original w/DMT) I dosed the Orastan-E with Bioprene for improved absorption. It is also important to realize that stacking unmethylated compounds with other hormones increases their absorption as well, but in general I would use some kind of an "anabolic amplifier" or absorption agent with unmethylated compounds.

 

[arnold84]

Ergomax LMG and Pheraplex are very chemically similar.
They are basically the same base compound BUT

Ergomax LMG = 70% alpha isomer and 30% beta isomer

Where as,

Pheraplex = 97+% alpha isomer <3% beta isomer
(depending on the clone the beta isomer variation from 0-3% or even a bit more is possible)

The beta isomer = more androgenic, less anabolic
The alpha isomer = more anabolic, less androgenic

And generally speaking,YES, the more androgenic the compound the more sides that will be associated with it.
More androgenic compunds tend to be the compounds with higher affinity for estrogen aromatization.

On the orastan-E, because it is unmethylated you need to use a higher doasge of it AND/OR stack it with some bioprene or an amplifier like AX Trisorbagen.

Back when i ran Orastan-E with Halodrol-50(original w/DMT) I dosed the Orastan-E with Bioprene for improved absorption. It is also important to realize that stacking unmethylated compounds with other hormones increases their absorption as well, but in general I would use some kind of an "anabolic amplifier" or absorption agent with unmethylated compounds.

thanks for that wilderbeast your most helpful