I dont get paid anything from black lion research so this is my honest opinion, I would recommend activate xtreme too, test drive by ast, amino x by bsn(amino acids are way better postworkout than a protein shake, hanney rambod said this) so i like what works. I want brundell and BLR to be rich b/c they have awesome suppz for fair prices that work better than ANY IVE EVER USED.