Ectotropin Review

nevergoodenough

nevergoodenough

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First off I would like to thank IBE for giving me the opportunity to try one of their new products, it arrived to me well after it was supposed to thanks to the rejects at the post office, but it still worked greatly. A log is difficult to keep for this product because it takes about 2.5 weeks or so to kick in but once it kicks in you definetly know.

Positives

Apetite suppression:
This is by far the BEST produc I have ever used to give appetite suppression. I normally have a gargantuan appetite and this supplement made eating a chore, I am on a bulking diet and I would have to drag my ass into the kitchen to eat, which wasn't a good thing per say for bulking, but for cutting it is second to none. I have tried hoodia along with plenty other novel appetite suppresants and they couldnt touch ectotropin.

Fat loss:
Once again this did not become apparant until about the third week, but I am on a diet of about 700 cals over maintainence and leaning out in my arms and midsection was defnietly apparant. At best I was hoping to stay at my bodyfat with an expectation of gaining some but ectotroping helped and unexpected but very welcomed recomp.

Recovery time:
I train heavy and hard and the day or two after legs I walk like a gimp, with ecto by two days after my leg workout I felt able to get back in they gym and hit them again (I sure as hell didnt, but I could have.)

Negative

Lethargy:
The only drawback I noticed was lethargy, and at times it was excessive. I would go to bed at around midnight or so and sleep until 10 or 11 and by 3 o clock I was ready for a nap. Sometimes it was tough to get the energy to go to the gym, but I dont take any kind of stimulants. So my guess would be if you took some caffeine or ephedrine or something you would be ok, but there were days were I would just lay around all day long, which is not typical of me.

Overall Impressions
I see this product as a must for anyone who has trouble sticking to their diet when appetite is a problem. I think it can be very beneficial on a bulking diet but the effects would probably be much more pronounced on a cutting diet. I also think that since it takes a little while to kick in 3-4 months would probably be the most effective time to take it for. The price is reasonable so buying that much can be done with out having to get a second job. The lethargy is tough which would make another reason for using it during cutting when most are on some kind of stimulant. Overall very good product, if youre skeptical stop buying hormones and nolva for a while and get two months worth you wont regret it.

If anyone has any questions about me experience with ecto, you can post here or send me a pm.
 
im on day 4 so far and the pumps i am getting at work ( i work for ups) are insane! not so much painful as say a sd or m1t pump but just very full and vascularity in my biceps is amazing. appetite supression hasnt hit me hard yet as im still able to eat a lot when i sit down but there are times that i flat out forget to eat. so im hoping for more of the same in the weeks to come!
 
update: day 9 (i decided to go the first 10 days straight and then get into the 5 on 2 off with impulsiveness being the only reason) and i am already down 5 pounds of which all looks like abdominal fat. it's weird because i look bigger, my arms are definitely bigger then they were before i started, chest becoming more defined. the only time im hungry is right before i go to bed (because i work nights and dont have a chance to eat a solid meal for 7 hours, just a granola bar) and when i wake up. the entire day no matter how hard work was (manual labor) or my workouts i just dont get hungry. eating becomes a none existant thought until you realize you've only ingested 700 calories so far in the day. ive been trying to eat at least 2000 cals a day. so far im extremely impressed so far and the fact that i have 6 more weeks to go makes me kind of happy in the pants. lol will keep updating.
 
quick question, I am kind of new to using these types of supplements. Is this legal, as in, would it affect a piss test?

Thanks
 
day 23 update: down a total of 9 pounds but still looking bigger than ever. i kno its probably not all fat but by looking at my progress you could definitely make that arguement. seperation starting to be very aparent on arms between bi's tri's and delts. pecs more defined. food is a complete after thought. eating has become more out of necessity than want. i still get hungry every now and then but it goes away shortly after. strength has not gone up yet but i have had a few injuries resurface from the past that may be hindering that aspect. one thing ive noticed tho is when these injuries do flare up they are almost completely better the next day. interesting. still have 29 days left on this cycle so im very excited to have my abs finally show thru for christmas (my present to myself this christmas is a six pack lol)
 
like i said the appetite is never noticable. the best way i can describe it is if you're not disciplined in your diet (ie eat every 3 hours) you could very well go the entire day without eating and not get hunger pains. but when it comes to actually sitting down and eating i get satisfied much earlier. i could keep eating if i really wanted to, and i have on a few occasions, but am content with eating a normal to smaller portion of what i normally eat. it's very strange. does any of that make sense?
 
LuckyBoy said:
like i said the appetite is never noticable. the best way i can describe it is if you're not disciplined in your diet (ie eat every 3 hours) you could very well go the entire day without eating and not get hunger pains. but when it comes to actually sitting down and eating i get satisfied much earlier. i could keep eating if i really wanted to, and i have on a few occasions, but am content with eating a normal to smaller portion of what i normally eat. it's very strange. does any of that make sense?
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This is true.. Ectotropin is supposed to be an anti-Ghrelin, since it curbs appetite thru blunting Ghrelin in the stomach.. When I used the sterile version, I noticed I would get full faster with less food, so my meals were broken in half even further... ;)
 
does anyone know if Ectotropin would work WITH p-GH, or would that be a counterproductive stack???
 
Try it. If you don't want to, I'm already on p-GH so just send me a couple months' supply, I'll log it. :p
 
Interesting thread. My experience with this product was nearly identical to nevergoodenough's however, I did not have any lethargy at all (I may actually have had more motivation in the gym - placebo?) and for some reason I did not notice the suppression of appetite.

All in all my reservults were pretty much all positive and I can honestly say I believe I kept what I have gained.

I actually owe IBE big time because something happened shortly after my run with this product as a tester which prevented me from writting a full review. In addition, my goals were a little different from most folks here (as I am a chronic pain patient) and I was actually looking to get something else from this product. It did deliver the results however, I had an unrelated set back (to be explained in another thread).

Bottom line. This product was very impressive.
 
milwood said:
does anyone know if Ectotropin would work WITH p-GH, or would that be a counterproductive stack???
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meaning would Ecto (as an antagonist) be counterproductive in combo with a GH substance (p-GH)?
 
well ecto itself contains a gh releasing peptide so i dont think it would be counterproductive stack from that angle. i think most were advised to avoid ecto with igf because you want to eat as much as possible to get the most out of igf and ecto is an appetite suppresant.
 
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