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easyy beginner cycle for mass?

vsarac93

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statz: 21y/o, 205lb, 6ft, bf 15%, getting a little bloated, id like to keep putting on the mass w/o anymore bloating, what would be an easy first time cycle that would dry me out while still getting bigger?
 
Test, tren, eq, mast, dbol and winny! (No dont do this)
Hardcore cardio, eat like a clean horse and lift fkn big! At least couple more years. Imo.
 
wut about halodrol man? I hear its easy for a first cycle (minimal sides), dries you up, is relatively cheap, and I see a lot of 21y/o using it.
 
vsarac93 said:
wut about halodrol man? I hear its easy for a first cycle (minimal sides), dries you up, is relatively cheap, and I see a lot of 21y/o using it.
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At 21 bro diet and lifting is all you need. Your still growing into your body. Let your strength and muscle mature for a couple more years. Once you cross that line and jump into performance enhancers there is no going back ever. You will never be normal again and even with pct your only returning to a new form of normalcy. Your natural gains at that point when off cycle are slim to none. Take advantage of what you have while its still available.
 
joeblow1 said:
At 21 bro diet and lifting is all you need. Your still growing into your body. Let your strength and muscle mature for a couple more years. Once you cross that line and jump into performance enhancers there is no going back ever. You will never be normal again and even with pct your only returning to a new form of normalcy. Your natural gains at that point when off cycle are slim to none. Take advantage of what you have while its still available.
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Ok so your natural gains go to slim to none. So what happens if you cycle and get up to like 240 lbs, will you be able to maintain that size and mass without cycling?
 
vsarac93 said:
Ok so your natural gains go to slim to none. So what happens if you cycle and get up to like 240 lbs, will you be able to maintain that size and mass without cycling?
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It all depends, I definitely think u could if your genetic limit is closer to that number. Everyone is different. I'm just as old as u and I've been cycling since I was 18. I by no means condone what I did but I started competitively bodybuilding at that age and i most likely will go professional in my 20s. I'm not talking outta my ass I honestly have great genetics and I bust my ass, my diet is near perfect and I train like hell. Would I have waited to cycle if I wasn't competing? Certainly. However, your an adult and the decision is up to u. I must say though that I have no problem at all gaining off cycle and I don't cycle often, I take very long periods off. That's just my 2 cents. I highly recommend Epi though if u do decide to cycle.
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
It all depends, I definitely think u could if your genetic limit is closer to that number. Everyone is different. I'm just as old as u and I've been cycling since I was 18. I by no means condone what I did but I started competitively bodybuilding at that age and i most likely will go professional in my 20s. I'm not talking outta my ass I honestly have great genetics and I bust my ass, my diet is near perfect and I train like hell. Would I have waited to cycle if I wasn't competing? Certainly. However, your an adult and the decision is up to u. I must say though that I have no problem at all gaining off cycle and I don't cycle often, I take very long periods off. That's just my 2 cents. I highly recommend Epi though if u do decide to cycle.
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what negative side effects have you experienced thus far since cycling? and what have your cycles been.
 
vsarac93 said:
what negative side effects have you experienced thus far since cycling? and what have your cycles been.
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Some back and shoulder acne, testicular atrophy which is a given, aggression, mood swings, back pumps, lethargy(severe sometimes), never have issues with BP. That's about it. I've used superdrol 3 times, epi 3 times. I lost a lot of gains though when I was younger and didn't know what a SERM. I had terrible guidance from older BBers who didn't give a damn about my health. Needless to say I don't associate with those idiots anymore. I always recovered fine though and I have blood work to prove that.
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
Some back and shoulder acne, testicular atrophy which is a given, aggression, mood swings, back pumps, lethargy(severe sometimes), never have issues with BP. That's about it. I've used superdrol 3 times, epi 3 times. I lost a lot of gains though when I was younger and didn't know what a SERM. I had terrible guidance from older BBers who didn't give a damn about my health. Needless to say I don't associate with those idiots anymore. I always recovered fine though and I have blood work to prove that.
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I'm surprised you've done only PH cycles. Aren't PH cycles generally rougher on your system than running test?
 
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