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E/C/A throwback

ReaperX

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Does anyone here still use the ECA combo anymore except me ? Also too for the ones who do use it, do you just use ephedrine,caffiene only or do you throw in the asprin as well ?
 
Can't handle stims after 1pm anymore.

I used to take it 25/200 at 6am/11am/3pm, back in the day.

The most recent that I took it, was only 25/200 upon waking.
 
I just capped up a bunch of EC the other day. 25mg E-hcl and 200mg C. I don't use the A either. I pop one 3x a day when I use it.
 
Yeah that's what I do when I use it. 25mg/200mg. Once upon waking up, once at lunch, once midafternoon.

I cut back to only twice a day once I get towards the end of my cutting.

Those are the ratios I use, they seem to work out pretty good.
 
I'v never used the asprin

Been on E/C for roughly a month... started at 3x day and have cut back to 2x day on non-workout days and 3xday on workout days and just added some Reset AD

love the appitite suppression with E/C but after a while my adrenal function begins to drop and i build a big tolerance to the stuff and start getting lethargic and certain times of the day

If the reset AD doesnt help i'll cycle off for a couple weeks
 
In all honesty ever since the intial ephedrine ban, the stuff is so damn expensive now, I'd rather use something like albuteral...
 
I think 30mg of Yohimbe would work in place of the 25mg of Ephedrine + caffiene. Hm that'd be something to try out.
 
30mg at once is not really advisable. The total daily does recommendation is approx 20mg/200lbs. Of course tolerance can increase over time.

The dosage of .2 mg/kg (approximately 1 mg per 10 lbs.) per day is relatively free of side effects and effective for weight loss (2, 3), while .1 mg/kg is more commonly used for sexual stimulant effects. For fat loss, yohimbine is generally taken twice daily, in the morning and afternoon. It is best taken on an empty stomach, as taking it with a meal can reduce its lipolytic effects (3). The half-life of yohimbine is short (1-2 hours), but the half-life of a metabolite with similar activity, 11-hydroxy-yohimbine, is 6-8 hours (18), so it is not necessary to take it every 2 hours. It is best to start with half the dose or less to see how sensitive you are to yohimbine, as inter-individual bioavailability and tolerance can vary greatly.
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i'v used albuterol and did not find it that effective... the best effect i got from it was taking it pre-workout b/c of the bronchiodiating effect, definately increases stamina in the gym when taken pre-workout

as for fat loss it was average at best

if you search you can find some decent deals on ephed. I picked up 180 pills for 60 bucks which is a damn good deal considering most places sell it at 12-15 for 24 pills
 
I usually ramp up. I start at 5.25 mg of E 2 x per day for several days then go up to 12.5. I have a tough time tolerating 25mg at once and to be honest...I like keeping my low tolerance.

Some guys around here have used it so long they can take 200 mg, workout at night and go to sleep just fine. Seems like a waste, lol.
 
25mg is where I'd peak at. I slowly work my way into it. I agree with you though, if you look for Ephedrine its not unrealistically expensive.
 
bioman said:
Some guys around here have used it so long they can take 200 mg, workout at night and go to sleep just fine. Seems like a waste, lol.
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I was never that high, maybe around 100mg throughout a day. You develop a tolerance that is accompanied with other sides that are subtle until the breakdown ;)

I finally quit for several weeks or more and got my tolerance back and rarely go over 50mg/day anymore.
 
Wow! I got bottles back in the day for $4 for 60 tabs. I should turn them over and make a killing. Thing is though I can't replenish them and not at 50 bottles at a time anymore ;)
 
yeah the price has definately gone through the roof lately... lol the stuff i got at that price actually expired in 05! but its still workin great
 
you can as long as there not ephedrine hcl tabs like vasopro... the site i ordered them from there was no restriction but i bought ephdrine alkaloid tabs
 
Alkaloid is the natural plant extract, HCL is the synthetic version. I actually prefer the synthetic because the alkaloid is much much harder to standardize and is at the root of it getting banned because so many companies failed to control their dosing of it properly.

Some people claim the alkaloid(s) work better.
 
yeah i'v used both and really can't tell much of a difference so i'm assuming there both effective, but hcl tabs are more expensive nowadays and there is a limit on how many you can buy thanks to the good ole meth heads
 
Want to hear something funny. I have an original, never opened, sealed bottle of hydroxycut (with ECA). I bought in 2004, never used it. Hmm...maybe i should on my next stack....
 
Yikes! Just thinking about ECA makes my hands shake. I used to live on that stuff back in the day but now it drives me nuts... teeth grinding, constant sweating, no sleep. The most serious effect, the thing that ultimately drove me off it, was the irregular heartbeat I developed from it. I still have tons of eph. just sitting under the cabinet.
 
I am unsure of Hydroxycuts but many herbal ECA products used white willow bark which is a derivatives of aspirin (acetyl salicylic acid) just like guranna is a derivative of caffeine and ma huang is a derivative of ephedrine.
 
B5150 said:
I am unsure of Hydroxycuts but many herbal ECA products used white willow bark which is a derivatives of aspirin (acetyl salicylic acid) just like guranna is a derivative of caffeine and ma huang is a derivative of ephedrine.
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Right, they would use white willow, et. al. b/c if they used real aspirin or other chemicalsthey would fall under FDA control. Since they were just herbal they could market it as a dietary supplement.
 
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