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DYMETHAZI9E and TR3ST Log.

Bult said:
After upping the dosage to 60 mg dymethazine and 100mg tr3st I have been noticing rapid changes in size, strength, and weight. I increased dosage on Saturday an I am already up 5 pounds since then, whereas my weight gain had almost stalled in the previous week, I only added 2 pounds the entire week. I also feel like a walking brick ****house and every weight feels easy. I did the chest and arms hypertrophy today and I used 120 pound dumbells for the speed DB presses.
Dosed 20mgDMZ and 25mg tr3st in the morning at 6am, another of the same dosage at 12pm and 25 more mg of tr3st pre workout. I just took the same dose as the morning at 630pm.
Workout was PHAT chest and arms hypertrophy day
Flat DB bench press
80x12 warmup
95x6 (my normal weight)
110x5
115x5
125x5
125x5
125x5
125x5
Incline DB
85x12
90x8
90x8
95x6 rep PR
Chest press hammer strength machine
70 on each side
X15
X13
X12

That was not all I did, just the ones where you can see the increase in strength from previous workouts. I had great in between set recovery. Excellent pump and great energy and motivation.
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Sounds awesome.

Really excited to give dymethazi9e a go.

Nothing but amazing reviews.

Always loved superdrol, let's see how this baby compares.
 
Definitely will be giving this a run on my next cycle
Great stuff going on in here!
 
I am somewhat disappointed that I did not up the dose sooner, there really is a significant improvement from 40 to 60mg. Which is interesting because when Dymethazine first came out the recommended dosages were around 20 to 30mg, I guess people overestimated the sides because the scary name superdrol was tossed around with it. I think 60 is about perfect for me but I doubt I could handle more than 2 weeks of it. I currently have 5 days left after today, then on to Ep1c and dermastr3ngth and all my other goodies.
 
Which reminds me, what has the general consensus been of late about the osta in PCT? Would it be better to save it for a month and run it with my second bottle of ep1c and dermastrength? There is not a whole lot I have read that makes me thing it would be all that great immediately after cycle, by the time you reach the dosages that proved in studies to be anabolic (15 to 25 mg) it is somewhat suppressive, which isn't exactly what you want immediately post cycle. So what are the benefits of sub-anabolic doses say 10 mg? Or could I start off small and ramp it up, say week by week 5/10/10/15/20... till end of bottle? I already purchased it so no sales talk, you got me already. Haha
 
I'll be running EP1C and DermaSTRENGTH as part of my off cycle. Been reading nothing but good things about them.
 
From what I was told you should run Ostar1ne at 10mg PCT and this more to help keep your gains from your cycle. But I am still learning here also so I am sure someone else here can give both of us more info on this.
 
Bult said:
I am somewhat disappointed that I did not up the dose sooner, there really is a significant improvement from 40 to 60mg. Which is interesting because when Dymethazine first came out the recommended dosages were around 20 to 30mg, I guess people overestimated the sides because the scary name superdrol was tossed around with it. I think 60 is about perfect for me but I doubt I could handle more than 2 weeks of it. I currently have 5 days left after today, then on to Ep1c and dermastr3ngth and all my other goodies.
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I'm running 3-MHD and EPG Quad Methyl Xtreme.
Right now my breakdown of the dosage is as follows per day.

DMZ - 95mg
Hexadrone - 145mg
Msten -10mg
M14ADD - 90mg
Trenavar - 45mg

I've not had any problems or sides.
 
BigRed1974 said:
From what I was told you should run Ostar1ne at 10mg PCT and this more to help keep your gains from your cycle. But I am still learning here also so I am sure someone else here can give both of us more info on this.
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Yes that is also what I heard initially, but after further research I began to grow confused. I should have just taken the "my mind is made up don't confuse me with the facts" approach. I think I will probably start low and ramp it up week by week to 20mg.
 
turff49 said:
I'm running 3-MHD and EPG Quad Methyl Xtreme.
Right now my breakdown of the dosage is as follows per day.

DMZ - 95mg
Hexadrone - 145mg
Msten -10mg
M14ADD - 90mg
Trenavar - 45mg

I've not had any problems or sides.
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Yeah I don't wish for early death so I'm happy with just two compounds, and only 60 mg of dymethazine. If what you are taking is as potent as what I am taking then your body is amazingly resilient.
 
Age may play a role too. I've been doing this a long time so most compounds do not have an adverse effect on me. The 3-MHD is sublingual also and they may make a big difference. This has worked well for me and I'll probably run a longer cycle of it next year.
 
turff49 said:
Age may play a role too. I've been doing this a long time so most compounds do not have an adverse effect on me. The 3-MHD is sublingual also and they may make a big difference. This has worked well for me and I'll probably run a longer cycle of it next year.
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Very well could be. I was not condemning your stack, I'm impressed actually because I am confident I could not handle it. What brand do you use for the DMZ? And why hexadrone?
 
Did the PHAT hypertrophy legs yesterday but I got excited and just kept putting more weight on the squat bar.
Squats
135x30
225x15
315x12 Huge rep pr. When I started the cycle 5 reps was my max for this weight
335x8
355x5
After this my back was so pumped when I walked my stride length was limited to about 6 inches. The rest of the workout was agony to put it lightly and I had to skip deadlifts.
Leg press
6 plates per side x 12
8 plates x 9
9 plates x 6
Hack squat
4 plates per side x 10
4 plates x 9
5 plates x 6
Superset leg extensions and leg curls 3 sets of 8 to 12

5 days left now and I am looking forward to starting my PCT, only one more leg workout to go till I am off. The majority of size and strength from this cycle has really gone into my legs and ass. I look ridiculous in my work slacks now and have to keep my pockets empty. Calves still have not grown much though, disappointing as always. Fuuuck it who needs em!
 
I am also going to taper down my AI. It is going to be a bit tricky because Anastrozole doesn't play well with nolva, I was at .5mg every day, yesterday I started .25 every day. The day after the last day of the cycle I will begin .25 every other day, the day before the end of the cycle I will start tamoxifen at 20mg every day. I plan on tapering the AI down very slowly coming off completely in 2 weeks, partly because I do not have 100% faith in the potency of the tamoxifen. I am going to run that 20/20/10/10/10. Hopefully I can avoid any rebound, any tips would be much appreciated. I also will be running transform till the bottle runs out increasing it a bit as I decrease the anastrazole and then tapering it back down. I'm doing half a pump in the morning and a full pump in the evening. I will go up to two full pumps then taper down slowly.
 
Today is the last day of the cycle. Yesterday I took my first does of Ep1c one hour before my workout. Today I took one Ep1c at 6am and I will take one preworkout, I will also use a pump of dermastrength preworkout and I will be finally taking my preworkout again after 7 long weeks. My plans for PCT is as follows:
Nolva 20/20/10/10/10
Anastrozole .25EOD/.15EOD/0
Osta 0/5/10/10/15/20/20/25/25
Ep1c 600mg per day split morning and preworkout till my two bottle run out
DermaStrength 2ml/2ml/2ml/2ml/2ml
Super PCT 4/4/3/2/2


I am going to slowly cut carbs back to a strict 300g per day which will have my daily calorie intake down from about 4200 to 3600. I plan on continuing to log my PCT as I am sure that there are quite a few individuals curious about the effects of OL's new products (Osta, Ep1c, and dermastrength) in post cycle and beyond. I am pretty optimistic that I can keep most of what I have gained, I usually lose about a third of the weight I gain on a cycle, though it varies based on which PH I use of course. Any suggestions, criticisms or recommendations are more than welcome. I will post final before and afters pics and stats tomorrow.
 
Bult said:
Today is the last day of the cycle. Yesterday I took my first does of Ep1c one hour before my workout. Today I took one Ep1c at 6am and I will take one preworkout, I will also use a pump of dermastrength preworkout and I will be finally taking my preworkout again after 7 long weeks. My plans for PCT is as follows:
Nolva 20/20/10/10/10
Anastrozole .25EOD/.15EOD/0
Osta 0/5/10/10/15/20/20/25/25
Ep1c 600mg per day split morning and preworkout till my two bottle run out
DermaStrength 2ml/2ml/2ml/2ml/2ml
Super PCT 4/4/3/2/2


I am going to slowly cut carbs back to a strict 300g per day which will have my daily calorie intake down from about 4200 to 3600. I plan on continuing to log my PCT as I am sure that there are quite a few individuals curious about the effects of OL's new products (Osta, Ep1c, and dermastrength) in post cycle and beyond. I am pretty optimistic that I can keep most of what I have gained, I usually lose about a third of the weight I gain on a cycle, though it varies based on which PH I use of course. Any suggestions, criticisms or recommendations are more than welcome. I will post final before and afters pics and stats tomorrow.
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Is dermastrength actually supposed to give you a boost as a PWO?
 
djchach said:
Is dermastrength actually supposed to give you a boost as a PWO?
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I will take one full pump in the morning and one preworkout also. I am not sure what if any effect it will have based on time of administration. I have read differing opinions on the subject. I took it in pill form about 6 months ago and I liked it, the consensus seems to be that a much higher dose is necessary for maximal positive effect, I will be taking 200mg per day and I'll update on it's effect, I may shift dosing times around as well. I think for maximum psychological, if not physiological, effect it may be best to take it pre workout. Create some placebo motivation. I have two bottle of it, two of Ep1c, and one of Ostar1ne.
 
Bult said:
I will take one full pump in the morning and one preworkout also. I am not sure what if any effect it will have based on time of administration. I have read differing opinions on the subject. I took it in pill form about 6 months ago and I liked it, the consensus seems to be that a much higher dose is necessary for maximal positive effect, I will be taking 200mg per day and I'll update on it's effect, I may shift dosing times around as well. I think for maximum psychological, if not physiological, effect it may be best to take it pre workout. Create some placebo motivation. I have two bottle of it, two of Ep1c, and one of Ostar1ne.
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You got things covered. Should have a perfect PCT;)
 
Time for final stats and pics

Flat Bench Before 275x3 ---- after 305x3
Deadlift Before 405x5 ---- after 455x5
Squat Before 315x3 ---- after 385x3
Bodyweight Before 172lbs----after 190 lbs
Arms Before 16" ------- after 17"
Chest Before 43" ------- After 45"
Legs Before 24" ------ After 27" (My most significant Gain in strength and size was in my legs and glutes).
Waist Before 31" ------ After 32"

Aside from the small gyno flair up this has been the best cycle I have ever done as far as size and sides go. I felt great and had an insane appetite the whole way through and I never got cold like symptoms like I frequently do about 2 weeks in. Like I said I am going to log this right through my PCT and post up pics again after that.
 
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Thank you all it has been a great cycle. I have been structuring my plans for the next 8 weeks of Ep1c Ostar1ne and dermastrength.
 
I think my main plan is to recomp a bit, I packed on quite a bit of muscle to the lower abdominal area but otherwise my midsection is looking pretty soft. Hopefully if I can beef up the size of the abdominal muscles I can create a decent appearance without having to actually do a cut because I don't want to lose my recently acquired size and strength gains. I am slowly going to move down to 3600 calories per day and add some greater volume days. Also I want to put epic to extreme endurance tests form time to time to see what benefits I can get from endurance, stamina and inter set recovery. For example every 2 weeks I am going to do a 100 rep squat workout with 225 pounds to measure my endurance and recovery speed.

I did this last friday for the first time in about 4 months. I do reps to failure and then take no more than 15 second break before I pick it up and go to failure again.
squats 225 x 25 10 second break
squat 225 x 15 10 second break
squat 225 x 10 20 second break
squat 205 x 10 30 second break
squat 205 x 15 20 second break
squat 205 x 10 30 second break
squat 185 x 15 10 second break

After this I was dead. My lower back and the top of my glutes was so pumped I could not drive home for 15 minutes. I hit some super light SLD to try to stretch it out and some lying hamstring curls.

I have been on the Ep1c and dermastrength for 6 days now and I have maintained the extreme pumps, vascularity, and strength that I had at the peak at the end of the cycle. I have lost 2 pounds though and I am down to 190 lbs.
 
My legs hurt reading this-oh wait yesterday was legs day. Seriously though, that's brutal.
 
Devildog_ said:
PCT so far?
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I have been waiting till I leveled off a bit, I really wasn't sure where I would wind up so I did not want to post my opinions yet. I think now I have finally gotten to a sustainable weight at 182 to 185 depending on when I weigh myself. so I lost about 7 pounds since the end of cycle but I think I can maintain what I have now. As far as the products I have taken the main differences I have noticed are greater sweats and just a heated feeling from the dermastrength and better inter set recovery from the Ep1c. The Ep1c is definitely for real, I can manage much greater volume in my workouts than I ever have been able to before, and I have really been putting it to the test. Especially with legs and back workouts. two weeks ago I switched back to a 5 day split so I could use greater volume and give myself more recovery time to try to maintain strength after cycle. After about 12 days in using the Ep1c I did a high volume DB chest workout and I have not been so sore since I first started lifting. I am not really sure if it is a positive thing but every workout now I really feel for the next day or two. Vascularity is even better than when I was on cycle but strength and size have certainly waned some. After 3 weeks on the Ostarine (last week) I upped the dose to 15mg a day and I am actually starting to notice a PH like "fullness" in my muscles. So Ostar1ne is also for real. I did notice a definite decline in strength though and I think that for my next PCT I will probably just do a standard PCT for a month and then do Ostar1ne at 20mg and Epic for 6 weeks.
 
I will probably post comprehensive reviews of
tr3st
dymethazi9e
Ostar1ne
Ep1c
dermastrength
If that is anything that anyone would be interested in reading. The only two I am not 100% sure of the affects are Ostar1ne and ep1c. Because I have not taken those two solo so I just kind of have to make an educated guess at which one was responsible for which effect.
 
If you're already set on doing it then why do you want a review from me? Have you purchased them already?
 
By which I mean are you trying to decide whether or not to use tr3st and DMZ or are you wanting my opinion on how to use them best?
 
Bult said:
If you're already set on doing it then why do you want a review from me? Have you purchased them already?
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Some attitude right here I see. .

Anyways. Was just looking forward on your comprehensive review on those products; since you mentioned that on your previous post.
 
joeybacs said:
Some attitude right here I see. .

Anyways. Was just looking forward on your comprehensive review on those products; since you mentioned that on your previous post.
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No attitude I just worded my response awkwardly. What I meant was what kind of information do you want from me? Whether or not I would recommend the product or, if you already pan on taking it, what would be the best way to do so in my opinion?
 
Last Friday 09/26/2014 I increased the Ostar1ne dose to 20mg per day and I have definitely started to notice it now in a very positive way. To be completely honest I don't think much of Dermastrength, even at 250mg per day I felt very little from it, having finished the bottle 6 days ago I can't tell anything different from before. However Ep1c and Ostar1ne are incredible, I don't really know how to explain all the wonderful things Ep1c does, aside from the common increased endurance, recovery between sets, and some apparent increase in vascularity, I also have a greater, longer lasting kind of calm concentration and motivation in the gym, and a greater feeling of mind muscle connection. Which may be the cause, in part, of my increased soreness.

After increasing Ostar1ne to 20mg my weight is actually starting to climb again. I'm at a empty stomach morning weight of 184 right now and I feel so much better than on cycle. I may just respond well but I think I could see gains from 8 weeks of 25mg ostarine per day plus ep1c equal to a milder prohormone cycle. Without all the negatives.

I'm going to run the Osta for 5 more days which will leave me with 5 days of Nolva left after the end of the osta. I will have enough super PCT to run 2 per day until the end of the Ostar1ne. I still have at least 20 days of Ep1c left, I have been dosing 1 in the morning arounf 6am and one 45 mins pre workout around 2pm on workout days and then just one mid day on non lifting days.
 
Bult said:
Last Friday 09/26/2014 I increased the Ostar1ne dose to 20mg per day and I have definitely started to notice it now in a very positive way. To be completely honest I don't think much of Dermastrength, even at 250mg per day I felt very little from it, having finished the bottle 6 days ago I can't tell anything different from before. However Ep1c and Ostar1ne are incredible, I don't really know how to explain all the wonderful things Ep1c does, aside from the common increased endurance, recovery between sets, and some apparent increase in vascularity, I also have a greater, longer lasting kind of calm concentration and motivation in the gym, and a greater feeling of mind muscle connection. Which may be the cause, in part, of my increased soreness.

After increasing Ostar1ne to 20mg my weight is actually starting to climb again. I'm at a empty stomach morning weight of 184 right now and I feel so much better than on cycle. I may just respond well but I think I could see gains from 8 weeks of 25mg ostarine per day plus ep1c equal to a milder prohormone cycle. Without all the negatives.

I'm going to run the Osta for 5 more days which will leave me with 5 days of Nolva left after the end of the osta. I will have enough super PCT to run 2 per day until the end of the Ostar1ne. I still have at least 20 days of Ep1c left, I have been dosing 1 in the morning arounf 6am and one 45 mins pre workout around 2pm on workout days and then just one mid day on non lifting days.
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Glad you are enjoying our products.

Ostar1ne is definetely my favorite(besides all the ph's, lol)
 
I had a pretty incredible back workout yesterday, great focus throughout and decent strength.
Pullups weighted 25 pounds 90 second rest
12
10
10
9
8
Bent over barbell rows.
135x20
185x12
195x10
205x8
205x7
T-Bar rows with barbell
105x20
140x12
150x10
150x10
160x7
V bar lat pulldowns. i mostly focused on getting a good lat stretch with these at the top, decreased weight and increased reps.
185x15
185x12
165x13
165x12
High cable rows
150x15
150x13
135x15
153x14
Single arm DB rows with straps
100x8 each arm
95x10
85x8
Deadlifts
225x12
275x10
315x8
365x6
405x5
415x4
425x3
455x2
315x10
Deadlifts at the end killed me. Stretched out my back and hamstrings a bit then ate about 2000 calories of weight gainer and then fish, chicken, rice, broccoli cabbage, carrots, and green beans.
 
edje007 said:
Glad you are enjoying our products.

Ostar1ne is definetely my favorite(besides all the ph's, lol)
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I enjoy them too much. Haha I already have a tr3n and d1methadrol cycle planned and purchased for December or January. My favorite cycle so far has been epistane and tr3n hopefully this will be even better.
 
Loving the EP1C myself, endurance and recovery is really great in my workouts.
Nice work in here, keep up the hard work!
 
Bult said:
I enjoy them too much. Haha I already have a tr3n and d1methadrol cycle planned and purchased for December or January. My favorite cycle so far has been epistane and tr3n hopefully this will be even better.
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That will be a sweet cycle my friend.

What will be your cycle layout?
 
edje007 said:
That will be a sweet cycle my friend.

What will be your cycle layout?
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I'm not entirely sure yet. I did 90mg of tr3n with ep15tane last time and that seemed to be the spot for me. I didn't have any prolactin or estrogen issues with the tr3n, though at least for the estrogen that may have been thanks to the epistane. I'm not sure how the d1methadrol will be for me in that sense.

Otherwise I suspect I will have much the same layout as I did for this cycle. I'll probably start the tr3n right in at 90mg and d1methadrol at 20mg for the first week then bump to 30 and then possibly 40mg later on.

I really want to try the tr1umph too, so many new goodies got to grab them before the possible ban.

I will probably have some Ostarine and Ep1c for my PCT, think i'll skip on the strength this time though.
 
nice log bro. been reading through it seeing how you did it. might starty my DMZ TR3ST cycle monday. thinking of adding the Ostarine and EP1C to my PCT also now. ad i only have Clomid,Super PCT and DAA
 
Took my last dose of Ostar1ne on Saturday so now I am using only ep1c, about three weeks left. I have 2 more days of nolva and I'm finishing super PCT today. I have held pretty steady at 181 to 184 depending on when I weigh myself, I don't have nearly the "big" feeling that I got from the DMZ where I just felt pumped and solid all day, I don't really know how to describe it better. My strength has gone down a bit, but endurance and stamina are better, and I am still stronger, larger, and heavier than I was before the cycle by far. I will wrap this up with final reviews and pictures as soon as I finish the Ep1c. I think end of November I will do Ostar1ne and Ep1c alone and try running the Osta at 25mg per day for 6 weeks.
 
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