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dunno if its gyno or not

mitch911

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i just finished a pp/sd cycle now just switched over to some max lmg thats scheduled to run for 2 months the pp/sd was 5 weeks...however i just started noticing that my chest is a little saggy by the nipple area or a little under..its not sore and the actual nipples arent itchy or sensitive at all...i was thinking it was maybe some water as my body comp has changed dramatically through the cycle got alot leaner...is this enough info to judge if its gyno or not ,
thanks
 
might be a little bit of chest fat. some guys have the misfortune of holding a little fat/water in that area. if it doesn't itch or anything and if it doesn't get worse, i wouldn't worry. however, it never hurts to have nolva on hand just in case. ;)
 
I know that for most SD produces lean/dry gains but when I used it I bloated out like a mutha.

Using eform I reduced the bloat a bit. You could try that and a little extra B6.

good luck!!!
 
yea i thought its a little bloat aswell even tho lasnite i was lil scared of the gyno and took 60mg of nova...i think il wait and see if it clears in a week or two..i know im holding some water in my gut and love handle area...and know that the max lmg has caused some to bloat...can nolva always get rid of gyno if it happends to be gyno later ?
 
as long as it doesn't become a hard lump, you're good to go from what i understand. then again, a lot of guys with the hard lumps had their **** clear up with rebound xt.
 
mitch911 said:
i just finished a pp/sd cycle now just switched over to some max lmg thats scheduled to run for 2 months the pp/sd was 5 weeks...however i just started noticing that my chest is a little saggy by the nipple area or a little under..its not sore and the actual nipples arent itchy or sensitive at all...i was thinking it was maybe some water as my body comp has changed dramatically through the cycle got alot leaner...is this enough info to judge if its gyno or not ,
thanks
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Am I the only one concerned about him doing a 13 week cycle of orals? I realize only 5 weeks was methylated but still.
 
can you get gyno from 6oxo, i just started taking it and even though the "guys" feel a lot better my nipples are itchey burning a little, and they look a little puffy, should i get some nolva?
 
traps said:
can you get gyno from 6oxo, i just started taking it and even though the "guys" feel a lot better my nipples are itchey burning a little, and they look a little puffy, should i get some nolva?
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Yes
 
I'm gettin a little puffy in the nips also- (finished LMG and a little remaining SD)
Im lean, around 10% bf, but I was heavier when I was younger. now, while you wouldnt notice by looking, I can grag a nice pince of skin on my chest, and Im pretty sure its just skin mostly cayse that same supper elasticity extends to my armpits.
I noticew my nips will get more smooth feeling, Im guessing this is just like "puffy", and If I squeez ny nip really hard I can force out about a half a drop (sometimes, usually I try in the evenings), like Im lactating (I know what the progestins can do that). How bad is this??
I do not have any ichyness, no new lumps (now, I do feel s small pebble sized harder thing deeper within, but I think thats actually part of the gland.
Everyone says if it doesnt itch, its not gyno. Is this Always the case?
And will the "forced" lactating go away on its own?

Nolva wont help progestin based gyno much from my understandings, so Im just wondering if there is much to worry about.
 
traps said:
thanks for responding, will it go away if i have had this feeling for a week now, im waiting for the nolva
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Heh it might. Certainly couldnt hurt to try. I would think that as long as you arent seeing anything in the mirror too severe you'll probably catch it in time
 
xtraflossy said:
I'm gettin a little puffy in the nips also- (finished LMG and a little remaining superdrol)
Im lean, around 10% bf, but I was heavier when I was younger. now, while you wouldnt notice by looking, I can grag a nice pince of skin on my chest, and Im pretty sure its just skin mostly cayse that same supper elasticity extends to my armpits.
I noticew my nips will get more smooth feeling, Im guessing this is just like "puffy", and If I squeez ny nip really hard I can force out about a half a drop (sometimes, usually I try in the evenings), like Im lactating (I know what the progestins can do that). How bad is this??
I do not have any ichyness, no new lumps (now, I do feel s small pebble sized harder thing deeper within, but I think thats actually part of the gland.
Everyone says if it doesnt itch, its not gyno. Is this Always the case?
And will the "forced" lactating go away on its own?

Nolva wont help progestin based gyno much from my understandings, so Im just wondering if there is much to worry about.
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bump to this;
 
xtraflossy said:
I'm gettin a little puffy in the nips also- (finished LMG and a little remaining superdrol)
Im lean, around 10% bf, but I was heavier when I was younger. now, while you wouldnt notice by looking, I can grag a nice pince of skin on my chest, and Im pretty sure its just skin mostly cayse that same supper elasticity extends to my armpits.
I noticew my nips will get more smooth feeling, Im guessing this is just like "puffy", and If I squeez ny nip really hard I can force out about a half a drop (sometimes, usually I try in the evenings), like Im lactating (I know what the progestins can do that). How bad is this??
I do not have any ichyness, no new lumps (now, I do feel s small pebble sized harder thing deeper within, but I think thats actually part of the gland.
Everyone says if it doesnt itch, its not gyno. Is this Always the case?
And will the "forced" lactating go away on its own?

Nolva wont help progestin based gyno much from my understandings, so Im just wondering if there is much to worry about.
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itchyness is not always the case with gyno.
you most likely have developed a gland.
most males have glands if not all, i think i read that somewhere its just whether or not they get bigger or stay dormant.
prolactin gyno most likely. I had the same which i contribute honestly to the stacking of superdrol. I hate all the praise i hear on it, it makes me sick. anyway enough with the superdrol hating. Try 300mg of vitamin B6 for a while then down to 200mg for maintenance. Try 300mg of Vitex stacked with the B6 and some Raloxifene. It worked for me as far as the lactating goes but i still have very small lumps and occasional itching but no pain.
Good luck and if I were you I would consider at least trying to stop taking these "designer" orals. There isnt enough research IMO and you take a risk anytime, but then again that is with any steroidal compound.

If you have any more questions i will try my best to answer them.
 
xtraflossy said:
I'm gettin a little puffy in the nips also- (finished LMG and a little remaining superdrol)
Im lean, around 10% bf, but I was heavier when I was younger. now, while you wouldnt notice by looking, I can grag a nice pince of skin on my chest, and Im pretty sure its just skin mostly cayse that same supper elasticity extends to my armpits.
I noticew my nips will get more smooth feeling, Im guessing this is just like "puffy", and If I squeez ny nip really hard I can force out about a half a drop (sometimes, usually I try in the evenings), like Im lactating (I know what the progestins can do that). How bad is this??
I do not have any ichyness, no new lumps (now, I do feel s small pebble sized harder thing deeper within, but I think thats actually part of the gland.
Everyone says if it doesnt itch, its not gyno. Is this Always the case?
And will the "forced" lactating go away on its own?

Nolva wont help progestin based gyno much from my understandings, so Im just wondering if there is much to worry about.
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dude, don't make yourself lactate...that can only worsen the situation!
 
pistonpump said:
itchyness is not always the case with gyno.
you most likely have developed a gland.
most males have glands if not all, i think i read that somewhere its just whether or not they get bigger or stay dormant.
prolactin gyno most likely. I had the same which i contribute honestly to the stacking of superdrol. I hate all the praise i hear on it, it makes me sick. anyway enough with the superdrol hating. Try 300mg of vitamin B6 for a while then down to 200mg for maintenance. Try 300mg of Vitex stacked with the B6 and some Raloxifene. It worked for me as far as the lactating goes but i still have very small lumps and occasional itching but no pain.
Good luck and if I were you I would consider at least trying to stop taking these "designer" orals. There isnt enough research IMO and you take a risk anytime, but then again that is with any steroidal compound.

If you have any more questions i will try my best to answer them.
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all compounds have remotely the same sides when dealing with Test levels. Gyno is something that is prevalent in almost all meds. (i know you know already) if you are going to do any kind of supplementation you are running a risk of something.
 
wildman536 said:
all compounds have remotely the same sides when dealing with Test levels. Gyno is something that is prevalent in almost all meds. (i know you know already) if you are going to do any kind of supplementation you are running a risk of something.
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True. What i meant is we dont have known data on these new substances that can tell us how the compound really acts on a physiological level nor do we have years of use to look back upon. IMO Id stay with things that have been used for years. Alot of designers have shown to be very strong progestins hence there advertising of "non aromatizeable" but we all know that progestins can cause gyno as well. You see alot of the facts are still hidden from us or not known at all. I dont know but I deal/dealt with gyno and it pisses me off, so im biased against designers because of this.
 
pistonpump said:
True. What i meant is we dont have known data on these new substances that can tell us how the compound really acts on a physiological level nor do we have years of use to look back upon. IMO Id stay with things that have been used for years. Alot of designers have shown to be very strong progestins hence there advertising of "non aromatizeable" but we all know that progestins can cause gyno as well. You see alot of the facts are still hidden from us or not known at all. I dont know but I deal/dealt with gyno and it pisses me off, so im biased against designers because of this.
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did you have to go through with a surgery?
 
pistonpump said:
no, but im sure it will always be there. the Raloxifene helped alot as far as controlling it.
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i was using b6 and seemed to help alot. It really dried out my nipples though, I had a lactation problem for a while. I have more of a puffy nip than any lumps, you can feel the gland that is normal and pretty consistant bilaterally.
 
wildman536 said:
i was using b6 and seemed to help alot. It really dried out my nipples though, I had a lactation problem for a while. I have more of a puffy nip than any lumps, you can feel the gland that is normal and pretty consistant bilaterally.
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The b6 worked great, i agree. I also have puffy nipps and lumps like you say, not painful per say but occasionally out of the blue i might get a slight tingle or itch. Im curious to see how they come out when i drop bf% alot more. Lactation was scary to say the least.
 
yeah but the more i read and research i find that male lactation is not as uncommon as we all think. Bottom line if you have a hint of mammory gland (which guys do) it is not uncommon to lactate, But its when that lactation gets outta control is when one should worry.

I do have to bump the B6 again though. :)
 
Some good info in here, My nips look a bit swollen as well, and if I lean up against something, or if someone pushed up against my nipple, or even when my little girls sit on my lap and lean back while watching tv, I have to be careful because if they lay there head back on my nips.. OUCH !!! It hurts.. Not sure whats going on here either. I have not taken any SD or Pheradrol in about 3 months.. Did a good PCT, but still have this crap.. I have jumped back on cycle support, and I am thinking of getting back on TORE for a while..
Does this sound ok ?

Sorry to hyjack your thread. I hope you get your cleared up as well.
Good luck Bro.
 
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