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dude! Are we guys wasting our time?? this is surprising..

JD261985 said:
Believe me being super picky is actually a flaw and can be damaging to yourself as well as others that you let into your life. I don't understand people who change the way they look and then suddenly develop crazy standards like they're the bees knees or some shyt
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I've found that a grocery list of attributes a lot of times has little bearing on attraction. It's all well and dandy to tick off the boxes but if if someone has a personality defect that is definitely a deal breaker.

McCrew530 said:
So stephen hawking must be like your dream guy huh?
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Passion begets attraction. On all levels.

JD261985 said:
What I have learned is that words mean nothing and you need to watch peoples actions.
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I will co-sign that, and add that those actions need to be consistent. And if your wants don't align then it's probably time to move on.
 
puccah8808 said:
Here's what all girls want:
A man who's caring, strong, independent, has a good head on his shoulder, intelligent, loves his family and friends, protects, sexy as hell, and has a big mutherefffen ****!!!! :D
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I've found a lot of women won't settle for anything "less" than what they think they're looking for, but don't give a fu¢k about what the guy may be looking for... They think their walls give them the right to any man...
 
BLaQz said:
I've found a lot of women won't settle for anything "less" than what they think they're looking for, but don't give a fu¢k about what the guy may be looking for... They think their walls give them the right to any man...
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It goes both ways. I've met some men who will not settle as well. It's the preference of each individual. I won't "settle" because I'm not ready. I have school to focus on and a job that consumes 80% of my time. It's not fair to either one of us if work, school, and the gym are still my main priorities. Also, I don't think it has much to do with "settling", because when you fall in love, his or her imperfections will not matter. :)
 
puccah8808 said:
It goes both ways. I've met some men who will not settle as well. It's the preference of each individual. I won't "settle" because I'm not ready. I have school to focus on and a job that consumes 80% of my time. It's not fair to either one of us if work, school, and the gym are still my main priorities. Also, I don't think it has much to do with "settling", because when you fall in love, his or her imperfections will not matter. :)
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Not settle down! *facepalm*

What I'm saying is that they basically want something for nothing... They want to give a $10 bill & receive a $100 bill... Get me?
 
Women are also extremely cynical these days... Mainly the older ones that is... I am not referring to all women, ok ladies... Usually the older ones that are single, are single for a reason... Not necessarily a good reason either...
 
BLaQz said:
Women are also extremely cynical these days... Mainly the older ones that is... I am not referring to all women, ok ladies... Usually the older ones that are single, are single for a reason... Not necessarily a good reason either...
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I get what you're saying. Chivalry is not dead but a lot more women are independent these days or pretend to be independent. Sometimes our independence come off as stuck up or arrogant but truthfully, we just want to be taken care of. Don't let our "independence" fool you, it's just our pride talking. At the end of the day, we just want someone to come home to. I have a friend who "hates" men. Bashes them constantly, yet she's constantly on dating sites seeking someone to take care of her. Some older women are plagued by their past and no good man wants baggage from the past...
 
puccah8808 said:
I get what you're saying. Chivalry is not dead but a lot more women are independent these days or pretend to be independent. Sometimes our independence come off as stuck up or arrogant but truthfully, we just want to be taken care of. Don't let our "independence" fool you, it's just our pride talking. At the end of the day, we just want someone to come home to. I have a friend who "hates" men. Bashes them constantly, yet she's constantly on dating sites seeking someone to take care of her. Some older women are plagued by their past and no good man wants baggage from the past...
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So, women are confused, confusing & a bit annoying?
 
BLaQz said:
I've found a lot of women won't settle for anything "less" than what they think they're looking for, but don't give a fu¢k about what the guy may be looking for... They think their walls give them the right to any man...
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BLaQz said:
Women are also extremely cynical these days... Mainly the older ones that is... I am not referring to all women, ok ladies... Usually the older ones that are single, are single for a reason... Not necessarily a good reason either...
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I know how easy it can be to become cynical about such things. However, it seems you're putting too much emphasis on money and looks. Look around - there are plenty of lasting relationships that are driven by mutual respect and adoration. Both their desires, needs, and expectations are met. I believe a woman that has an understanding of what she wants will also work on herself to become what it is she may be looking for.

BLaQz said:
Not settle down! *facepalm*

What I'm saying is that they basically want something for nothing... They want to give a $10 bill & receive a $100 bill... Get me?
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That is an attitude that bothers me as well. Cannot take anyone seriously that walks around with a sense of entitlement. I guess there are good and bad apples on both sides.

WeT.DoLPhiN said:
...bitches are secondary. Where's the self motivation brohans?
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Agree with the underlying point, lol. You are the creator of your own happiness.

BLaQz said:
So, women are confused, confusing & a bit annoying?
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Approach, be casual. That's all you really need to do and she can either take it or leave it.
 
gokix811 said:
I know how easy it can be to become cynical about such things. However, it seems you're putting too much emphasis on money and looks. Look around - there are plenty of lasting relationships that are driven by mutual respect and adoration.
Where? Show me these relationships? Most couples I see barely even seem to know each other and they appear so awkward in public like they're brother and sister. Then again I live in south Florida and gold diggers are everywhere and most relationships I see seem like nothing more than a show
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JD261985 said:
Where? Show me these relationships? Most couples I see barely even seem to know each other and they appear so awkward in public like they're brother and sister. Then again I live in south Florida and gold diggers are everywhere and most relationships I see seem like nothing more than a show
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dude gold diggers are everywhere-lol. its not just in south florida, cali, or the shore.

I just think that its funny
A) men try to get huge and look good for girls (guilty as charged)-even if they say they do it for them.
B) women claim that they dont like the look-but then will gawk at the cover models on Mens Health and Muscle Rx
c) Say what you will-sadly alot of relationships are built on money and perception of wealth and always has been (stepford wives anyone)

so basically what im gathering from this thread is kind of what I thought from the beginning. There are always exceptions to the rule, but in general, humans are sexual-all of our basic insticts are sexually driven. Guys will admit it-but women wont.

Has anybody else noticed this:
You will always see an attractive woman with one of the following: a fat/unhealthy guy, a rail skinny/unhealthy guy, and old guy, or any combination of the above and its only because they are rich. Whats sad is they are probably having an affair with the poor sap and she might be sleeping with him-but she aint liking it.

but you never see the inverse. You will never (in comparison, there are some really low guys out there) that will be with an unnatractive, or old lady because they have money-why? I dunno. I think its because guys are more honest and open about what they want and have no shame in admitting it.
 
gokix811 said:
- However, it seems you're putting too much emphasis on money and looks.

I have never, nor do I know of anyone who has approached or been interested in someone because their ugliness or broke a$$ was alluring... Have you?

- I believe a woman that has an understanding of what she wants will also work on herself to become what it is she may be looking for.

A woman that knows what she wants? They're probably out there, but the odds of meeting one are not the best... I'm sure it'll happen, just don't hold my breath...

- Cannot take anyone seriously that walks around with a sense of entitlement. I guess there are good and bad apples on both sides.

I couldn't agree more... That sense of entitlement that most of the younger crowd(girls & boys) walk around with is going to get someone into trouble one day...

- Approach, be casual. That's all you really need to do and she can either take it or leave it.
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I'm always casual, & always myself(which doesn't always work in my favor, but I can sleep at night)Haha!...

I messed up the reply with quote... My replies are intertwined in the quote...
 
From my experiences (not that I have dated hundreds but just my age), women do not seem as "visual" as men. Women can find attributes more sexy, like closeness or being more personable, kindness, power etc. (Stuff that can ensure a solid future or nurturing) Men on the other hand, look at the package of parts, face/bum/boobs, and then wonder later if the women is a crazy.

Years ago Jim Palmer did ads for Jockey underwear and was touted very sexy by women. Nowadays he probably could not touch Pitt in the Fight Club movies, let alone Hugh Jackman.
Dennis Franz (yes from Hill Street Blues) was also voted a very sexy man back in the early 90's, so all bets are off guys.
Some women love blocky boys.
Only as of the late, 2000's has the more ripped Xfit type body's seem to don all the pages of model mags.

The best thing I have found attractive to women, (at least over the long haul) is to pay attention to them, listen to what they have to say, and certainly have a sense of humor.
Either that, or join a rock band, women love musicians...! HAHAHAHAHA
 
My wife would prefer me 190lbs and skinny/toned and not 260lbs strong and looking like a "puffy weasel" as she has so loving described me. She'd rather have me look like an Olympic swimmer than a powerlifter.

And the moment I even fathom opening my mouth about her physique I might as well kiss my ass (and my side of the bed) goodbye. :(
 
DJBeanPole said:
And the moment I even fathom opening my mouth about her physique I might as well kiss my ass (and my side of the bed) goodbye. :(
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lol agreed!

my wife has straight up told me that she likes me after a cut better than in the winter lol.
she has also told me she wouldn't mind me having a body like jaco de bruyn or lazar angelov. she told me that if any girl says they dont think these guys have hot bodies "theyre effing lying"

^^
Above honesty is why I love my wife and why our relationship and marriage is so strong!-just an FYI
 
MANotaur said:
lol agreed!

my wife has straight up told me that she likes me after a cut better than in the winter lol.
she has also told me she wouldn't mind me having a body like jaco de bruyn or lazar angelov. she told me that if any girl says they dont think these guys have hot bodies "theyre effing lying"

^^
Above honesty is why I love my wife and why our relationship and marriage is so strong!-just an FYI
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My wife would rather look like Kristen Stuart from Twilight whereas I'd rather have her looking like a pro volleyball player ;) overdeveloped quads, no pancake butt...
 
DJBeanPole said:
My wife would rather look like Kristen Stuart from Twilight whereas I'd rather have her looking like a pro volleyball player ;) overdeveloped quads, no pancake butt...
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volleyball players are pretty hot huh?? They have some good bootys on em-nothing like goki though ;)
 
DJBeanPole said:
My wife would rather look like Kristen Stuart from Twilight whereas I'd rather have her looking like a pro volleyball player ;) overdeveloped quads, no pancake butt...
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[video]www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuNCMYKViN4‎[/video]
 
PaulBlack said:
From my experiences (not that I have dated hundreds but just my age), women do not seem as "visual" as men. Women can find attributes more sexy, like closeness or being more personable, kindness, power etc. (Stuff that can ensure a solid future or nurturing) Men on the other hand, look at the package of parts, face/bum/boobs, and then wonder later if the women is a crazy.

Years ago Jim Palmer did ads for Jockey underwear and was touted very sexy by women. Nowadays he probably could not touch Pitt in the Fight Club movies, let alone Hugh Jackman.
Dennis Franz (yes from Hill Street Blues) was also voted a very sexy man back in the early 90's, so all bets are off guys.
Some women love blocky boys.
Only as of the late, 2000's has the more ripped Xfit type body's seem to don all the pages of model mags.

The best thing I have found attractive to women, (at least over the long haul) is to pay attention to them, listen to what they have to say, and certainly have a sense of humor.
Either that, or join a rock band, women love musicians...! HAHAHAHAHA
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Visual? We like pretty things!

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You make a good point. The media's portrayal of the ideal male/female body type is ever changing.

MANotaur said:
lol agreed!

my wife has straight up told me that she likes me after a cut better than in the winter lol.
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@ DJ, Manotaur;

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MANotaur said:
volleyball players are pretty hot huh?? They have some good bootys on em-nothing like goki though ;)
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And I shall fantasize about how much money you are making and how I would spend it. :rolleyes: :lmao:
 
gokix seems to know whats up...

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not sure if female...

I'm coming down to train with you!
 
gokix811 said:
Visual? We like pretty things!

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You make a good point. The media's portrayal of the ideal male/female body type is ever changing.



@ DJ, Manotaur;

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And I shall fantasize about how much money you are making and how I would spend it. :rolleyes: :lmao:
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lol very nice! at least your honest!! I couldnt agree more with that pic though!
 
McCrew530 said:
Anyone?...<img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=90170"/>
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This kid I know broke up with his girlfriend of 3 years just to focus more on lifting. Hey good for him for being committed but call me old school, I would never pass up the chance for love or some poon tang all in the name of lifting.
 
Heisenberg6 said:
This kid I know broke up with his girlfriend of 3 years just to focus more on lifting. Hey good for him for being committed but call me old school, I would never pass up the chance for love or some poon tang all in the name of lifting.
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Whatever Heisenberg. You poisoned a kid.
 
In my opinion, biological factors drive breeding desire and biologically we choose specimens who fit certain traits we would like to pass on. There are, of course, mental and emotional overrides, such as choosing a blonde over a brunette while you prefer brunettes or bedding a fatty once in a while although they aren't attractive.

Biologically, guys like Kai Greene, Ronnie Coleman et cetera don't exist. I'm not detracting from their training or dedication but without drugs those bodies aren't genetically possible and for most women would probably be a turn off from a genetic standpoint as well as personal preference.

That said, the "scrawny" guys with some muscle definition still elicit an image of power and muscularity that women are attracted too, they aren't going for poindexters. And you can bet a 6 foot, 200lb, lean guy will more than likely be considered more attractive than a 6 foot, 170 lb, lean guy by most women.
 
MANotaur said:
Thats why you need to be ripped and rich. Ill give it to you that girls will ditch you for fat ass or old dude with money in a heart beat.ive seen it happen and its happened to me. Which is why i made sure i got bigger, stronger, and now i make more money and have every intention and goal from goin from 6 figures a year to 7 by the time im 30
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^^^ this 100%

Money & Muscles.
 
MANotaur said:
lol agreed!

my wife has straight up told me that she likes me after a cut better than in the winter lol.
she has also told me she wouldn't mind me having a body like jaco de bruyn or lazar angelov. she told me that if any girl says they dont think these guys have hot bodies "theyre effing lying"

^^
Above honesty is why I love my wife and why our relationship and marriage is so strong!-just an FYI
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Ok first off I saw a before and after pic of jaco de bruyn he would NEVER have that body without steroids...secondly I showed that pic to my gf who then showed it to her friend and they just laughed. They just said he looks like an idiot and they found him abnormal and freakish looking
 
MANotaur said:
Thats why you need to be ripped and rich.

Ill give it to you that girls will ditch you for fat ass or old dude with money in a heart beat.ive seen it happen and its happened to me.

Which is why i made sure i got bigger, stronger, and now i make more money and have every intention and goal from goin from 6 figures a year to 7 by the time im 30
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Don't you have a wife? Hope you don't need to do all that just to keep a female around lmao..so you need to make millions to not get cheated on? Man your thoughts are twisted bro...
 
MANotaur said:
lol agreed!

my wife has straight up told me that she likes me after a cut better than in the winter lol.
she has also told me she wouldn't mind me having a body like jaco de bruyn or lazar angelov. she told me that if any girl says they dont think these guys have hot bodies "theyre effing lying"

^^
Above honesty is why I love my wife and why our relationship and marriage is so strong!-just an FYI
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So your wife is trying to turn you into something you're not then? She wants you to chemically enhance your body into someone else's body? Her honesty about your figure during a bulk is insulting tbh and if I were you I wouldn't stand for it. Sounds to me like she's trying to mold you into what SHE WANTS AND NOT WHAT YOU ARE. Please tell me that makes sense. You shouldn't give two ****s about what anyone wants your physique to look like except you.
 
JD261985 said:
Don't you have a wife? Hope you don't need to do all that just to keep a female around lmao..so you need to make millions to not get cheated on? Man your thoughts are twisted bro...
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yes I am married and happily so. I was also engaged at one point and she left me-for somebody who has more money. Some white trash trust fund baby to be exact. <<this was a real wake up call to what the real world is like and what 90+% of women really are.

My wife now has been with me before I was making the money that I do. She was actually attracted to me before she knew that I was about to come into a large amount of money and able to provide well for both of us and our children. She said that her initial attraction to me was that I was tall, dark, and built-easy as that. Then we started talking and she then said she fell in love with my voice and my manliness because I like to hunt, fish, shoot guns, and am into sports and I dont get into all this metro bullsh1t that you see guys getting into today.

Once she became aware of my success (which happened while we were dating-she didnt find out about it until after we were married) it definately made her feel more secure with me.

who are you to judge my marriage and my status? Who are you to judge my personal goals? sounds to me like your trollin and just a little bit jelly of my life.
my wife and I have a great relationship and were both very open and honest with each other. Were to the point now that honestly-she probably wouldnt leave me if I got a little pudgy or didnt make as much money. My drive and determination wont allow that to happen though.

You only have your looks and your body in your youth-when your old and worn out all you have is your money and your experience/knowledge. Why not tie down both while I still can.
 
JD261985 said:
So your wife is trying to turn you into something you're not then? She wants you to chemically enhance your body into someone else's body? Her honesty about your figure during a bulk is insulting tbh and if I were you I wouldn't stand for it. Sounds to me like she's trying to mold you into what SHE WANTS AND NOT WHAT YOU ARE. Please tell me that makes sense. You shouldn't give two ****s about what anyone wants your physique to look like except you.
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Chill buddy...
 
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