Dry PH & PS

MuscleGuyinNY

MuscleGuyinNY

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I'm eventually gonna attempt my first PS cycle (Probably shortly after my 21st birthday in August), which will most likely consist of an Epi and Furazadrol. But for future reference, I'd like to get my hands on only dry PS. I don't want to use anything wet. I really despise that bloated feeling and always feel sick. It does occasionally interfere with my daily activities, as I always end up feeling like I have a lot of gas, might throw up, or have to take a shiit.

Any suggestions to different PS would be greatly appreciated. You can suggest them separately, or stacked. It doesn't matter.

Thanks. :)
 
Well here are pretty much your options for dry gains:

Bold
Epithios
Tren
Halodrol
Winztrol
Furazadrol
Prop

I didn't put superdrol in that list cause i think it can depend on the individual and the dosage/strength of the clone that can make it dry or wet gains.

Now when it comes to stacking them together, meaning dosing them at the same time, I would only run a Class 1 with a Class 2. As a simple clearification, Class I binds to androgen receptor, a Class 2 does not.

Now which is which?

Class 1 - Bold, Tren, Epithios
Class 2 - Halodrol, Winztrol, Furazadrol, Prop

So as an example of my upcoming March cycle, I will be logging the following:
week 1 - tren
week 2 - tren
week 3 - tren
week 4 - tren & win (tren class 1, win class 2)
week 5 - win & phera (win class 2, phera class 1)
week 6 - win & phera
week 7 - win & phera

I hope this helps.
 
MuscleGuyinNY said:
I'm eventually gonna attempt my first PS cycle (Probably shortly after my 21st birthday in August), which will most likely consist of an Epi and Furazadrol. But for future reference, I'd like to get my hands on only dry PS. I don't want to use anything wet. I really despise that bloated feeling and always feel sick. It does occasionally interfere with my daily activities, as I always end up feeling like I have a lot of gas, might throw up, or have to take a shiit.

Any suggestions to different PS would be greatly appreciated. You can suggest them separately, or stacked. It doesn't matter.

Thanks. :)
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Im sorry MGNY but how can you possibly base "how you feel on wet supps" when youve never even run a cycle? Why do you think wet gains means bloated? Im sorry its far from it, the only thing likely to get you bloated on a wet PH/PS/steroid would be your diet.

If your basing your idea as to how a wet supp would feel on how something like creatine effects you then you need to forget that line of thinking since creatine can cause gut issues causing one to feel bloated, practically all PH's will not have this effect.

I respect your wants to try dry ones only but in all honesty youll be missing out if you never even give wet ones a chance. And lets not forget to mention the fact that stacking a wet and a dry PH IS the way to go, getting usually the best of both worlds making sick maintainable gains that are typically still hard and less buldgy from fat gain and over water retention. When you stack two dry compounds your not likely to increase the good effects much more then running one or the other but your very likely to increase androgenic sides and dry the **** outta your joints making an injury more likely and lifting heavy weight possible as far as muscles are concerned but at the cost of most painful joint pain youll ever experience.

Id really reconsider your line of thinking, as well as run only ONE compound for your first time, preferably a dry one, then next time around go ahead and add a second compound, preferably a wet one. This will allow you to assess how you react to not only the individual PH you use but ph's in general cause if something goes wrong you dont know wich one may be causing it. If you run it solo first and do fine then when you stack it you encounter problems your able to discern that its most likely the new compound and can drop it to salvage the cycle if needs be..... I swear I just said this to someone else today also... dont know why everyone is so eager to stack themselves crazy their first time around when they should do awesome their first time with only one considering their receptors are fresh, why burn em out so fast????

If you have any questions bro feel free to PM me and I'll help you out gladly. Hopefully you dont take offense to this post and realize the flaws in this line of thinking.

your boy
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I'm re-starting my Epistane(dry)+Pherabol(wet) stack again this week with running striaght Epi to get things going, and adding Phera monday. I haven't ran from what I can gather, a 'wet' PH yet, but I hear it can give you solid gains with fewer joint aches. I'm still not sure what to expect fully as far as BP issues, muscle cramps and dry mouth which I seem to get using 'dry' PH's.

From what I've asked on these forums, I've chosen a great stack, so I expect to have good results being I've got great results from running solo and eating like a horse last year.
 
ohohoho that sounds saweet my friend! cant wait to see how this treats you! I could only think its going to be an absolute feel good, mass building, strength boosting stack with very lil sides.... might want to watch out for back pumps but I think thats the extent of what youl run into.

gonna log it?
 
avgBdybldr said:
Now when it comes to stacking them together, meaning dosing them at the same time, I would only run a Class 1 with a Class 2. As a simple clearification, Class I binds to androgen receptor, a Class 2 does not.
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I agree with most of your post, but the above is incorrect. EVERYTHING binds to AR. The class I and II idea has been disproven.

edit: btw when you say "tren" you mean real trenbolone or one of the PS "tren"s?
 
I seen a few older posts by Dr.D about Phera. From what the conversation was there it seems to me that everything binds to the AR to some extent however not everything binds to the AR on the heart. Halo doesn't for example as it's androgenic activities are very weak in general.
 
poopypants said:
ohohoho that sounds saweet my friend! cant wait to see how this treats you! I could only think its going to be an absolute feel good, mass building, strength boosting stack with very lil sides.... might want to watch out for back pumps but I think thats the extent of what youl run into.

gonna log it?
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I'll see what I can do to log it.

My main problem is I don't keep a training log as I prefer to train instinctively, but I try to train to failure when I'm on the chemicals.

I might be able to remember what kinds of weights I lifted on my base lifts, which are the lifts I ALWAYS do and I tend to remember what I lifted, and for how much. After I do those, I'll kind of do whatever, but to failure to finish burning the muscle out.

I can also log my weight. I'll weigh everyday even just for the hell of it.

I'll start it monday and see what comes of it.
 
Dr Packenwood said:
I'll see what I can do to log it.

My main problem is I don't keep a training log as I prefer to train instinctively, but I try to train to failure when I'm on the chemicals.

I might be able to remember what kinds of weights I lifted on my base lifts, which are the lifts I ALWAYS do and I tend to remember what I lifted, and for how much. After I do those, I'll kind of do whatever, but to failure to finish burning the muscle out.

I can also log my weight. I'll weigh everyday even just for the hell of it.

I'll start it monday and see what comes of it.
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I dont think a workout log is even necessary, my first couple logs I didnt log any food, workouts, and only occasionally weight, just mostly how I was feeling and if I had an obvious strength gain and periodic weight gains.... it will at least let others know if its even worthwhile runnin.
 
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