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Hey, I know everyone's scattering around, trying to get the best deals on the soon to be banned ph's. I'm all for it! Gather them up! But, with the end of that era, comes new ideas. New products.

If you're stocking up on these ph's, don't forget about pct! One of the latest and greatest products to hit the market is BPS Elimistane! Help reduce that estrogen and cortisol to help maintain those gains!

Lean, dry muscularity
Direct fat loss
Metabolic and hormonal balance
Maximum muscle retention
Rapid physique recomp

What more could you ask for in a once a day dosed pill!?
 
enhanced said:
Hey, I know everyone's scattering around, trying to get the best deals on the soon to be banned ph's. I'm all for it! Gather them up! But, with the end of that era, comes new ideas. New products.

If you're stocking up on these ph's, don't forget about pct! One of the latest and greatest products to hit the market is BPS Elimistane! Help reduce that estrogen and cortisol to help maintain those gains!

Lean, dry muscularity
Direct fat loss
Metabolic and hormonal balance
Maximum muscle retention
Rapid physique recomp
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This stuff sounds great, where can I get some????
What more could you ask for in a once a day dosed pill!?
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Will it make me "bigger"?
 
Elimistane is a great formula.
 
i actually have a couple questions about that one.

75mg arimistane ED is more than my joints can handle, and this has chrysin on top of it. how much stronger than 3 caps OG erase AI are we talking here (ballpark, is it like another 25mg arimistane or how would you describe it)? why use different AIs at all, does the chrysin have other effects that i'm not aware of?

and on the e.cottoni, dr coop said in another thread that the one study that was linked basically told us that it has anti-tumor activity because it is a strong antioxidant. that has nothing to do with it being a SERM as you claim in your writeup. do you have any other studies etc you can direct me to?
and if i had to dose EOD or 2/3 days, is there some way to gauge if i lose out too much on the 'sermetic' effect for it to be really effective, if there even is any to begin with?

thanks, i hope you have answers for me because i'm torn between buying a bottle of this or waiting till the new inhibit-e is available in europe :)
 
iddqd said:
i actually have a couple questions about that one.

75mg arimistane ED is more than my joints can handle, and this has chrysin on top of it. how much stronger than 3 caps OG erase AI are we talking here (ballpark, is it like another 25mg arimistane or how would you describe it)? why use different AIs at all, does the chrysin have other effects that i'm not aware of?

and on the e.cottoni, dr coop said in another thread that the one study that was linked basically told us that it has anti-tumor activity because it is a strong antioxidant. that has nothing to do with it being a SERM as you claim in your writeup. do you have any other studies etc you can direct me to?
and if i had to dose EOD or 2/3 days, is there some way to gauge if i lose out too much on the 'sermetic' effect for it to be really effective, if there even is any to begin with?

thanks, i hope you have answers for me because i'm torn between buying a bottle of this or waiting till the new inhibit-e is available in europe :)
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Where does it say its a serm?
 
iddqd said:
i actually have a couple questions about that one.

75mg arimistane ED is more than my joints can handle, and this has chrysin on top of it. how much stronger than 3 caps OG erase AI are we talking here (ballpark, is it like another 25mg arimistane or how would you describe it)? why use different AIs at all, does the chrysin have other effects that i'm not aware of?

and on the e.cottoni, dr coop said in another thread that the one study that was linked basically told us that it has anti-tumor activity because it is a strong antioxidant. that has nothing to do with it being a SERM as you claim in your writeup. do you have any other studies etc you can direct me to?
and if i had to dose EOD or 2/3 days, is there some way to gauge if i lose out too much on the 'sermetic' effect for it to be really effective, if there even is any to begin with?

thanks, i hope you have answers for me because i'm torn between buying a bottle of this or waiting till the new inhibit-e is available in europe :)
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I couldn't tell you that, I have yet to use the OG erase so I couldn't compare them. I know many used EPro EOD with great results and I am confident that you would have great results with EOD dosing if it is necessary. I don't believe I saw many of our loggers expressing much joint pain though, so it may not even be an issue with elimistane.

I did see Coopers post, and can not say whether or not it will express SERM activity. I don't think the study explored any true SERM activity (I don't have full access though so it may have), and the writeup just notes how it outperformed the SERM Tamoxifen not how it reacts as a SERM. I don't know of any other studies on it for this, so I don't know if it is possible to say it will express SERM activity in a major or minor degree.

Honestly I'd say give it a try, right now on our home site (Invalid Link Removed) everything is 50% off with free shipping (including international shipping I believe) with the code BPS50.
 
yeah 75mg arimistane EOD is enough for me to get dat dere lower back tightness, which is why i was concerned more with the e.cottoni losing its magic touch.


this is in the writeup:



E.Cottonii Extract 10:1 400mg

This relatively unheard of and underutilized ingredient is exactly what BPS is known for bringing our loyal fan base, the absolute pinnacle in scientific innovation. This is perhaps the single most compelling natural ingredient on the marketplace today, as it was able to outperform the popular SERM (Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator) tamoxifen in a rat study for suppressing breast tumor growth. Furthermore, it did not show the liver or kidney toxicity of tamoxifen (2). Based on the scientific data, this polyphenol rich, heart-healthy and cancer fighting edible red seaweed extract is THE most exciting natural estrogen control ingredient available today and is only found in ELIMISTANE.




So, okay, it DOES say 'outperform a serm' for suppressing cancer growth. but since you probably have legal ramifications to fear for straight up claiming 'this is better than nolva as a serm', which forces you to use 'read between the line language' even if you had good data, i cannot possibly know what exactly it is you wanted me to think when i read that.
because, why in the world would you then go ahead and call this ingredient 'THE most exciting natural estrogen control ingredient available today' if you don't even know whether or not it has any effect on anything to do specificially with estrogen?
i... don't really get it.
 
Are you aware of how Tamoxifen helps treat breast cancer? My understanding is that these cancer cells require estrogen to grow, and Tamoxifen works as a SERM in these tissues to stop estrogen from binding to the cells (stopping or slowing its growth).

So, with E. Cottonii outperforming Tamoxifen in stopping breast cancer growth it can be assumed that it is stopping estrogen from binding to the cells through either SERM or other estrogen blocking means. Which does make it an incredibly promising ingredient as either a natural SERM or a potent Anti Estrogen.

However, I do not believe that the study on E. Cottonii explored why it had that effect on breast cancer so we can not say for sure why it had that effect. But we can make educated guesses based on what we know about breast cancer and Tamoxifen's effects on it.
 
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