Dr. Doesn’t check Hormones

YoungThor

YoungThor

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I just saw my new doctor for some bloodwork. She asked what I wanted checked and I told her I’d like to know my organ health, so cholesterol and liver enzymes for sure, and I’m curious about my hormones. She said she doesn’t check hormones unless the patient is suffering from an issue related to hormones (I’m not, I feel great). Her reasoning is that people place to much importance on the numbers and those numbers are in a constant state of flux, so getting bloodwork one time won’t give an accurate measure. Honestly, I can’t say I disagree with this reasoning. Have you come across this before? I chose not to bring up the fact that I recently ran a sarms cycle.

Anyway, I’ll at least post the results for my cholesterol and liver enzymes in this thread. I ran lgd at 22mg for 12 weeks and yk11 at 6mg for 6 weeks. I did a mini pct of clomid at 30mg for 2 weeks. It’s been 3 weeks since my pct ended and my libido is through the roof, my energy is good, my strength is good, and I all around feel recovered. I know it was risky to run a short pct but I had my reasons and luckily it’s worked out.

Join this thread if you’d at least like to know how this cycle affected my organ health. I should also mention I drank way more alcohol on cycle than any man ever should. Next cycle I’m going to have the discipline of a Buddhist monk.
 
I forgot to mention that I didn’t get pre-bloods. So I wouldn’t be able to compare my hormone levels to what they were at the beginning of the cycle.
 
Sounds good. Some doctors are more cavalier about hormone levels. if you feel good then why mess with it? Watch what Dr. Rand McClane says about pct on YouTube. Definitely would get guys freaking out on this forum.

I like your new doctor.
 
In my experience it’s best to find a doctor you can be honest with. Unless you are counting on this person to give you trt and you don’t want them to know. In my area there’s plenty of wellness clinics who are covered by insurance and the doctors there know how to handle this stuff better.
 
edsd said:
In my experience it’s best to find a doctor you can be honest with. Unless you are counting on this person to give you trt and you don’t want them to know. In my area there’s plenty of wellness clinics who are covered by insurance and the doctors there know how to handle this stuff better.
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I might tell her eventually. If I don’t like the way she responds or treats me when that time comes then I’ll check out a wellness center.
 
Old Witch said:
Sounds good. Some doctors are more cavalier about hormone levels. if you feel good then why mess with it? Watch what Dr. Rand McClane says about pct on YouTube. Definitely would get guys freaking out on this forum.

I like your new doctor.
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I saw that video with Dr. Rand. I thought that was a pretty radical statement but it makes sense. Shocking your body by going cold turkey will get it back to baseline faster. I know this is contrary to bro science but that guy has decades of experience working as a medical professional in the endocrinology field. So I think his options hold a lot of merit. PCT is just meant to make the process smoother, but it’ll drag it out slightly longer.
 
If I ask a Doctor to test something and they refuse, I walk out of their office and find someone else that would like to take my money. I pay THEM, so I’m the customer.

Don’t even get me started on Pharmacists. A couple extra years of school and they act like they are some kind of parental figure over my health.

Unless someone is in the military or have less rights to their protected health information( I dunno, contractually-bound athletes maybe?) I don’t see any reason why I wouldn’t tell them exactly what I want tested and for exactly what illegal drugs I’m using. They aren’t any kind of authority over what I do
 
Matthersby said:
If I ask a Doctor to test something and they refuse, I walk out of their office and find someone else that would like to take my money. I pay THEM, so I’m the customer.

Don’t even get me started on Pharmacists. A couple extra years of school and they act like they are some kind of parental figure over my health.

Unless someone is in the military or have less rights to their protected health information( I dunno, contractually-bound athletes maybe?) I don’t see any reason why I wouldn’t tell them exactly what I want tested and for exactly what illegal drugs I’m using. They aren’t any kind of authority over what I do
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Another fun thing is when you're in better health than they want to admit, and so they're dead set on running tests for shxt you don't need. I think I know if I'm depressed, doc, thankyouverymuch.
 
Interested in the results of your bloodwork. I asked my primary care doctor to run my test levels during my annual physical before I went on trt. He agreed to, but cautioned me if I wasn’t suffering from symptoms of low t there was a good chance insurance wouldn’t cover the test.
 
So my LDL is slightly elevated but otherwise my bloodwork came back perfect. It should be around 100 or lower but I’m at 134. I think it was mostly the sarms but my red meat addiction could’ve contributed. Next time I mess around with this stuff I’ll probably jump on a mild AAS.

My blood pressure is good again by the way and all symptoms have cleared up. Yk11 was terrible for my blood pressure and had a strong effect on my personality. I was always ready to fukk or fight. Also I’m pretty shocked my liver enzymes are in normal range. Like I said before, I drank way too much while taking sarms. Next cycle my diet will be completely clean and I won’t touch a drop of booze.
 
With insurance you gotta he careful what you tell your doctor. They can alert your insurance company of your illegal use and they can remove you. That’s why is so important to trust the doctor that you are with, my endo I would never tell and I tried a few. My urologist I would and talk too straight up
 
BloodManor said:
With insurance you gotta he careful what you tell your doctor. They can alert your insurance company of your illegal use and they can remove you. That’s why is so important to trust the doctor that you are with, my endo I would never tell and I tried a few. My urologist I would and talk too straight up
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That’s good advice. I didn’t know your insurance can kick you off for using drugs.
 
LaserGoPewPew said:
I went to get bloods checked years ago and did what i thought was the right thing and told the doc i was feeling lethargic and that i had taken an OTC "test booster" and that i wanted my blood and hormones checked ... he was a young guy too and i thought this appt would be an in and out no hassel thing ... well he just wanted to go on and on about why i would take it and what it was and if i had dreams of being a pro bodybuild ... i mean stuff way out of left field. He kept asking me about being a bodybuilder A LOT to the point i was really annoyed. Im 6-0 180 and there is nothing about my appearance that says "body builder" ... just a very strange interaction all around.

Next time i will just lie and google hormonal symptoms prior rather than be up front and honest
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Yeah, unless you've developed a really trusting relationship with the Dr, you do have to be careful what you tell them.
There's been a couple of times over the years that I was a little surprised that I didn't receive any problems from my Insurance company.
It may be partly due to the fact that I didn't come right out and reveal illegal steroid use.
If they see test results, that is one thing.... But if you admit to it, you are definitely at their "mercy" then.
I once had a Nurse tell me, "Look, the Dr. could give me a really hard time, if "they" found out I told you this... But this last test that the Dr. ordered isn't for health markers, it is for substances".
I thanked the Nurse, and let her run the scan (which came back clear).

The point is, just because you pay the Dr, doesn't mean they will treat you like their boss. Always know where you stand, and weigh things out before you reveal anything.
 
I didn't necessarily care what that Dr. thought about my steroid use (I never saw them again).
But if my Insurance company had found out, that is grouds for policy cancellation.
...and good luck finding affordable insurance with that on your medical records. Also, depending on your employer (if your insurance was through them), that could be grounds for employment termination.
 
LaserGoPewPew said:
Understood and agreed ... however the substance i took was a bottle anyone could grab off the shelf at GNC. This was years ago. So its not that i was hiding an ilicit act ... thats why i rationalized that it would be a smooth appointment. Like i had a bad reaction to a multivitamin ... but that was not the case . Lesson learned.

Have you ever just paid out of pocket and gone to an Any Lab Now location and had them run your levels? I have done this a couple times but not for bloods, specifically.
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Yeah, sadly they can refuse to have you as a patient based upon almost anything, including OTC products, lifestyle, etc.
..and they may have even been fishing for more info, like steroids, etc.
Lesson learned.

I have paid out of pocket for bloodwork at Diagnostic Centers.
 
Renew1 said:
I didn't necessarily care what that Dr. thought about my steroid use (I never saw them again).
But if my Insurance company had found out, that is grouds for policy cancellation.
...and good luck finding affordable insurance with that on your medical records. Also, depending on your employer (if your insurance was through them), that could be grounds for employment termination.
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Interesting. I wasn’t aware of all the possible repercussions.
 
I’m a union construction worker and I get my insurance through them. I doubt they can kick me off for using any substances. Over half the guys in any site are on drugs, and some are juicers of course. I’m sure my insurance would pay for recovery programs and all that if you’re into hard drugs. I’d still like to avoid an awkward conversation with my doctor for right now though.
 
I don’t think the insurance company or doctor can legally inform your employer of steroid use because of medical confidentiality rules.
 
JoePaul39 said:
I don’t think the insurance company or doctor can legally inform your employer of steroid use because of medical confidentiality rules.
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If you have your insurance through your employer, they will know that the insurance company cancelled your policy.
 
YoungThor said:
I’m a union construction worker and I get my insurance through them. I doubt they can kick me off for using any substances. Over half the guys in any site are on drugs, and some are juicers of course. I’m sure my insurance would pay for recovery programs and all that if you’re into hard drugs. I’d still like to avoid an awkward conversation with my doctor for right now though.
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It may be different for you, being a Union worker (I don't know), but if my Insurance company had found out I was taking illegal steroids, they could have definitely cancelled my policy.
I quietly checked on these things (even more) after it became a possibility.
I've never heard of an employer having to offer any kind of program for illegal steroid use.
And, you're right...from an employment standpoint, it would partly depend on the type of work, and the specific company.

Yeah man, I definitely try to avoid awkward situations with Drs, partly because they hold more power than they should.

LOL. That's the reason (back in the day) why I wouldn't go to Walgreens for Prescriptions years ago. They were known to stick there nose into every possible crack of your business.
 
Renew1 said:
If you have your insurance through your employer, they will know that the insurance company cancelled your policy.
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Yes, but they won’t know why unless you tell them. HIPPA wouldn’t allow this being divulged by the insurance company or the doctor to the employer.
 
YoungThor said:
So my LDL is slightly elevated but otherwise my bloodwork came back perfect. It should be around 100 or lower but I’m at 134. I think it was mostly the sarms but my red meat addiction could’ve contributed. Next time I mess around with this stuff I’ll probably jump on a mild AAS.

My blood pressure is good again by the way and all symptoms have cleared up. Yk11 was terrible for my blood pressure and had a strong effect on my personality. I was always ready to fukk or fight. Also I’m pretty shocked my liver enzymes are in normal range. Like I said before, I drank way too much while taking sarms. Next cycle my diet will be completely clean and I won’t touch a drop of booze.
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You get test levels checked too?
 
Wowwwwww I can’t believe nobody thought about bringing up HIPAA until now. That’s a game changer. You could sue your doctor if they disclose information about your drug use to outsiders without your permission. Obviously in certain circumstances it’s unavoid that your doctor will have to tell your insurance company that you used drugs illegally. An example is if you need to get prescribed suboxone. If you need suboxone then you obviously used opioids. I think any halfway decent insurance would have to cover that. So maybe we’re being a little paranoid when we assume you’d lose your insurance if you told your doctor you like to take some roids here and there.
 
JoePaul39 said:
You get test levels checked too?
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Nope. That’s what this thread was originally about. My doctor said she doesn’t like to check hormones unless your suffering from symptoms that could potentially be the result of a hormone imbalance. She says we place too much importance on the number and that number is constantly fluctuating so getting an accurate idea of your test levels would require drawing blood multiple times and figuring an average.

I can tell you this though. My strength is rising every week right now. I started eating in a surplus after pct. My libido is insanely high. Maybe as high as it’s been in my life. I all around feel pretty good and my energy levels are normal. So I believe all of this indicates that my pct was a success. I only used 30mg of clomid for two weeks. I’m young and that certainly helps recovery too. I was 190 at the end of my cycle and I’m on a mission to gain a lot of strength right now and slowly work my way up to 205 pounds. Right now I’m doing this all natty, not even any supplements. I’m a month into this bulk and I’m up about 4 pounds.
 
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