Dosing Guide for Popular PH/DS

[MistrJay]

Are you referring to Decabolin as produced by HT or the AAS Decabolin?

HT's Decabolin

 

[Jebrook]

HT's Decabolin

Ah, I figured as much. I know very little about it other than it is claimed to be a pre-cursor to Nandrolone aka Deca Durabolin. Appears to be 60 75 mg caps. At that dosage the conversion rate would need to be very high to be effective. My intuition would say that Trest is probably much stronger and effective. That's just a guess though. I haven't seen any reliable feedback on Decabolin.

 

[booneman77]

Ah, I figured as much. I know very little about it other than it is claimed to be a pre-cursor to Nandrolone aka Deca Durabolin. Appears to be 60 75 mg caps. At that dosage the conversion rate would need to be very high to be effective. My intuition would say that Trest is probably much stronger and effective. That's just a guess though. I haven't seen any reliable feedback on Decabolin.

i'd have to agree with this. even comparing oral to oral, trest theoretically should be way stronger simply due to being an active compound. factor in td trest and it would prob tip the scale even further... IM to IM might make for a bit of a comparison, but if you're going the oral/td route, trest oral wins, trest td wins by a mile IMO

 

[MistrJay]

i'd have to agree with this. even comparing oral to oral, trest theoretically should be way stronger simply due to being an active compound. factor in td trest and it would prob tip the scale even further... IM to IM might make for a bit of a comparison, but if you're going the oral/td route, trest oral wins, trest td wins by a mile IMO

I wish I could do the TD, but I'm not quite that experienced yet. Would love to do it maybe on 2nd or 3rd cycle tho with something else.

 

[hamdysayed]

I wish I could do the TD, but I'm not quite that experienced yet. Would love to do it maybe on 2nd or 3rd cycle tho with something else.

If it's ur first cycle don't mess with Trest it's recommended for experienced users only.

 

[MistrJay]

If it's ur first cycle don't mess with Trest it's recommended for experienced users only.

Yeah I figured a good Halo/Andro cycle to start off and get some experience under my belt. Then I'll work my way to a M-Sten/Trest cycle.

 

[hamdysayed]

Yeah I figured a good Halo/Andro cycle to start off and get some experience under my belt. Then I'll work my way to a M-Sten/Trest cycle.

Good decision

 

[booneman77]

Good decision

Second for sure. Didn't realize it was your first. No way for that.

That said, when you're ready to run, go straight for the td. It's better in every way. So much easier.

 

[MistrJay]

Second for sure. Didn't realize it was your first. No way for that.

That said, when you're ready to run, go straight for the td. It's better in every way. So much easier.

Does the td offer aspects that the oral doesn't?

 

[Burnfire]

The TD is more of a steady release while the oral is more faster activing but doesn't last as long. I love the oral pwo!

 

[booneman77]

Does the td offer aspects that the oral doesn't?

Longer active time. Oral has a ridic short half life (a couple hrs max) vs a slower absorbed td. This will keep blood levels more stabile and lead to more max anabolic time

 

[MistrJay]

Longer active time. Oral has a ridic short half life (a couple hrs max) vs a slower absorbed td. This will keep blood levels more stabile and lead to more max anabolic time

I can fuqs with this. Haha.

 

[rtmilburn]

i'd have to agree with this. even comparing oral to oral, trest theoretically should be way stronger simply due to being an active compound. factor in td trest and it would prob tip the scale even further... IM to IM might make for a bit of a comparison, but if you're going the oral/td route, trest oral wins, trest td wins by a mile IMO

Idk about that. I don't have any experience personally but from what I hear good dosed IM trest is like tren and dbol combined with libido of mast.

 

[booneman77]

Idk about that. I don't have any experience personally but from what I hear good dosed IM trest is like tren and dbol combined with libido of mast.

It is... Not sure what you're disagreeing with? IM > all

 

[rtmilburn]

It is... Not sure what you're disagreeing with? IM > all

Saying that deca might be comparable to trest when IM

 

[booneman77]

Saying that deca might be comparable to trest when IM

That's not at all what I said? I don't think it is... That's the only time it'd be even close, but for me, trest is way better.

We were comparing trest to the deca ph anyways. I only mentioned IM to stress the major difference between oral and. I'm.

 

[rtmilburn]

That's not at all what I said? I don't think it is... That's the only time it'd be even close, but for me, trest is way better.

We were comparing trest to the deca ph anyways. I only mentioned IM to stress the major difference between oral and. I'm.

My bad I misunderstood what you were saying

 

[Tyvocules]

Sub thanks for the guide Jebrook

 

[Alpha1a]

What do you guys think would be a good dmz cycle I was thinking dmz 2 andro and lgd ? But I've used lgd before and noticed nothing off it so only reason I'm throwing it in there would be cuz I have it

 

[yates84]

What do you guys think would be a good dmz cycle I was thinking dmz 2 andro and lgd ? But I've used lgd before and noticed nothing off it so only reason I'm throwing it in there would be cuz I have it

If going with dmz then no need for the 2 andro and lgd imo, add in a good test base and let that dmz work! 6 weeks and 40 to 60mg would be optimal for some serious gains.

 

[Alpha1a]

If going with dmz then no need for the 2 andro and lgd imo, add in a good test base and let that dmz work! 6 weeks and 40 to 60mg would be optimal for some serious gains.

Thanks for the advice bro! Planning my next cycle (still got like 2-3 months before just getting everything together and ready early) I have 30 days worth of dmz at 30mgs, I can get another bottle no problem. maybe some 4 andro or dermacrine you think? Slight possibility I might just use it to kickstart my first test cycle too but just weighing all options at this point

 

[yates84]

Thanks for the advice bro! Planning my next cycle (still got like 2-3 months before just getting everything together and ready early) I have 30 days worth of dmz at 30mgs, I can get another bottle no problem. maybe some 4 andro or dermacrine you think? Slight possibility I might just use it to kickstart my first test cycle too but just weighing all options at this point

Test and another bottle of dmz sounds excellent!

 

[DonnieM]

Phera/pplex, what do you guys like about it so much? On cycle feeling? Sides? Strength?
I've seen a lot of guys rave about it but I want some details Thanks

 

[Bunshichi]

Its one of the strongest compounds ever out there. The on cycle feeling is reported to be good and that is while it is really strong in the anabolic section without being highly androgenic.

 

[Erikeckert]

Looking for some advise, started my first cycle, went with primeval labs 1 and quad andro stack, taking a oct for 8 wks and then taking primevals mega pct for 8 wks. What i need help with is my 2nd cycle, what stack should it be and what is a legit company to purchase it from?

 

[oyvind]

Tr3st and ep15tane
Google them and you'll find the brand.

 

[Erikeckert]

Does olympus labs still make ep15tane? All sites are sold out

 

[booneman77]

Does olympus labs still make ep15tane? All sites are sold out

its banned. you wont find it sold in any stores in the US and OL doesnt make it anymore

 

[Erikeckert]

its banned. you wont find it sold in any stores in the US and OL doesnt make it anymore

Thanks, whats the next best thing or whats good for a 2nd cycle

 

[oyvind]

its banned. you wont find it sold in any stores in the US and OL doesnt make it anymore

Some of the uk stores still has ep15tane, and other epi products.

 

[Erikeckert]

Not having any luck getting a hold of ep15tane, any other epi recomendations for my 2nd cycle.

 

[booneman77]

Thanks, whats the next best thing or whats good for a 2nd cycle

research, goals, stats, etc

 

[Erikeckert]

Ok on this cycle i started with primeval labs 1 and quad andro. Looking to get something more intense. Currently 5'6 10% bf and 155. Wanting to stay same bf but pack more lean muscle taking in about 3000 calories consisting of a mainly keto diet

 

[Erikeckert]

Ok on this cycle i started with primeval labs 1 and quad andro. Looking to get something more intense. Currently 5'6 10% bf and 155. Wanting to stay same bf but pack more lean muscle taking in about 3000 calories consisting of a mainly keto diet

research, goals, stats, etc

Forgot to mention 30yrs old

 

[YoungBodyBuil]

Does TD Furaza have a longer half life?

 

[YoungBodyBuil]

Im going to start a cycle with 2 pumps TD furaza at 100mg a pump should i split the 2 pumps? id assume the td prolongs it?

 

[Erikeckert]

Any thoughts on olympus labs on off cycle stack? Is it worth it, do i need to add more to it?

 

[BamBam0319]

Does TD Furaza have a longer half life?

Im going to start a cycle with 2 pumps TD furaza at 100mg a pump should i split the 2 pumps? id assume the td prolongs it?

I would assume that since the compound is still furazan, the half life doesn't change but the absorption time into your system will be delayed so you'll have a more steady introduction of the compound into your bloodstream. Just like dermatrest, 11-kt TD, and any other transdermal product.

 

[YoungBodyBuil]

I would assume that since the compound is still furazan, the half life doesn't change but the absorption time into your system will be delayed so you'll have a more steady introduction of the compound into your bloodstream. Just like dermatrest, 11-kt TD, and any other transdermal product.

Ahh my wording was garbage, thanks for the reply bam bam. That's what i meant so itll have a steadier release which is what i assumed so yes itll have the same half life (that was beyond obvious my wording was just atrocious) but since it's being released slower it'll be in the system longer but witht he same half life. Thanks bam.

 

[Myrmidon]

In, thanks for the writeup!

 

[Jebrook]

In, thanks for the writeup!

Welcome!

 

[flamini]

quick question... for just a 4 week cycle ... would a test base be counterproductive? even though it will fight lethargy and help libido..won't it just further I pact your HPTA and make recovery harder for your natural test production??? VERY CONFUSED HERE

 

[NoAddedHmones]

quick question... for just a 4 week cycle ... would a test base be counterproductive? even though it will fight lethargy and help libido..won't it just further I pact your HPTA and make recovery harder for your natural test production??? VERY CONFUSED HERE

I think a four week cycle in general would be counter productive tbh.

 

[flamini]

Okay , that's fair , so let's say 6 weeks of Msten. Just as an example , main question is on the concept of hpta suppression and post cycle reovery...what is your opinion on that

 

[NoAddedHmones]

Okay , that's fair , so let's say 6 weeks of Msten. Just as an example , main question is on the concept of hpta suppression and post cycle reovery...what is your opinion on that

I think if a compound is harsh enough to justify having to use a test base then HPTA suppression shouldn't be a consideration given(not likethe base is gonna make recovery harder). End of the day, a well planned pct will restore HPTA very quickly, especially after a compound like Msten that has no lingering esters etc.

 

[flamini]

Okay , awesome!

 

[Alpha1a]

I tried looking through for like 10 minutes but just can't find it

jebook you got any idea what this is?

 

[yates84]

I tried looking through for like 10 minutes but just can't find it View attachment 138083 jebook you got any idea what this is?

It's an alternative nomenclature for superdrol

 

[Alpha1a]

It's an alternative nomenclature for superdrol

That sounds like a good scary lol

 

[HardB0iled]

Is that Mithras?