Donald Trump running for president
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poison
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Ah, there it is, the low-IQ retards blaming it on the Joos. It's hilarious how the Joo-haters come up with the same ****, for 4000 years, but every time they think they're clever and came up with something new. Here's Trump in 1980 saying we should have kicked their dumbfuck asses:
Of course, we Joos are so fucking awesome that we bought and paid for him in 1979, to set the stage in 2026. That's how we operate. Spooky!
You guys are dumb AF.
Of course, we Joos are so fucking awesome that we bought and paid for him in 1979, to set the stage in 2026. That's how we operate. Spooky!
You guys are dumb AF.
poison
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Trump stopped a few wars already. FYI, since you clearly have 0 fucking clue about history: Iran has been waging war on the US for 47 years now. This is not the start of a new war; it's the end of a very old, long war. No other president took the time to stop it; some actually paid them to continue it (ahemobamabiden). Trump put a stop to it in the first salvo, on the first day.
Suck it.
ax1
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Trump has alot of blood, death and destruction on his hands of innocent life that he will talk to his grave all over meaningless wars that we should have no part of and his genocide numbers will keep piling up.
“Bored of Peace” is how you spell it out
Trump is a war criminal
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ax1
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Thanks, surely this shows he is a natural born lifelong neocon military industrial complex war monger and now war criminal. Thanks again.
ax1
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I can imagine every little defiant neocon cultist MAGAtard (disclaimer, not everybody that voted for Trump is part of the cult) out there be foaming out the mouth if Groper Joe started bombing Iran. I guarantee it.
ax1
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LOL wait why is Isreal and Iran even on that list wtf????
Trump bombed 8 countries this past year, the first ever president to do so. All Unconstitutional without a declaration of war via Congress. He is participating in Genocide in Gaza as well as Ukraine's war. Even if he ended 20 other wars that does not cancel actual true genocide he actively....well still is actively participating in, in which we can throw Iran in there now.
Speaking of "participation"....I am America first and America only, a strict policy of no foreign interventionism as our Founding Father's warned us about. The only foreign policy concerning America is free trade with other countries. Call up Iran and buy their oil they will be happy to do business with us. And yes I do believe in having a strong powerful domestic military, and only domestic. Our country is broke, our downfall isnt the Iranians, its big corrupt government in Washington.
ax1
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I respect her I really really do but I am a strict 1970's style Libertarian. Its nothing againt her I just respectfully disagree with alot of her policies, she looks at government as a solution where I want government the far fuq out of my life as possible with most minimal Constitutional roles only.
ax1
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There is a difference between many modern day Libertarian Party members and old school Libertarians. I kinda like to separate myself from many modern day Libertarians (like Dave Smith) but Im a huge Ron Paul supporter and Jacob Hornberger to name afew.
"In 1977, the condensed version of the party's platform was described in this fashion by David Nolan: (our Original Libertarian Party Founder)
ax1
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Let me track back...if she ran I would at least consider her if she ran as an Independent or any other 3rd party platform. At least consider, lets not get ahead of ourselves lol
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poison
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Why would I melt down? I've been doing this longer than you, and don't really care what some Jew-haters think. I've taken different tactics; currently, I'm not ignoring it, I'll address it in kind.
ax1
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I think they are basing that off some law that was passed during Nixon's time.....I dont care for Unconstitutional laws. Trump swore an oath to protect and defend the Constitutions so as far as Im concerned he should be impeached for violating his oath of office.
Or Founding Fathers explicitly put checks and balances, you may like your leader now but same powers for someone you dont like can lead to catastrophic consequences (in which we are already experiencing but thats another side debate lol)
Pelosi is a total war criminal and has no regards to the United States Constitution (as most of them) so it wouldnt suprise me one bit she would defend these illegal powers of the Excecutive branch.
Congress can vote on it, doesnt mean Im for it as I have full confidence corruption (stocks, lobby, alot of it foreign such as Isreal (nothing personal it is what it is, any country same to me) etc...) on most of the Representatives but thats something of fare game after we get there.
ax1
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All that being said, genocide is bad so legal or not legal, Constitutional or non Constitutional following the law does not equate to moral decision making and ethical integrity and we should all be free to call that out (and oppose my calling it out as in your case of course
)But here we already have a case of violating the Constitutional Oath (on many many other policies but trying to resist going there we will be here all night and we both have a life!! lol)
Rule #1 Think for thyself
Tunaking14
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While you have a point, I loved the job he did his first 4 years. I was under the assumption it would be more of the same this time. It’s my belief he is being controlled and the attempted assassination was a warning that he better listen to them. He’s done nothing this term except deport illegal but using Federal troops in the streets isn’t something I want to see. The system is to fault - it assures that there will only ever be a democrat vs a republican. I firmly believe to reach the level of power to be President that you are going to be controlled one way or the other and at the end of the day none of them care about the people. That being said, the democrats were destroying the moral fabric of this country so there is that.
Tunaking14
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I’m not a Jew hater. I’m a Netanyahu hater. But do you honestly think that the 80% of our congress/senate taking big money from AIPAC is in our best interests?
BamBam54
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The problem is you read and believe too much sh1t on the Reddit/Conspiracy pages. Your earlier post was literally Cut & Pasted from there!!! And it formulates and influences your opinions going forward, which are then corrupted by bad/fake input.
For example - yeah the new Syrian Pres was a former terrorist guy, and we had a bounty on his head at one point. True. But everything after that was bullsh1t. That is how you conspiracy guys work... take a small bit of truth and weave some bizarre black pill doom porn fantasy!
Because WE DIDN'T appoint him as leader of Syria. His rebel group (the HRT) were the ones who finally took the Syrian capital in battle. And then he was "appointed President" by the Syrian General Command at some big ceremony after they defeated the Assad regime.
What would YOU do at that point??? What are your words of wisdom taken from the Reddit/Consriracy forum??
Trump decided to try and work with the guy rather than start a new war in Syria. So here Trump avoids starting a new war and you are mad. And in Iran Trump does go to war and you are mad. Again - the problem with conspiracy kooks.... they only see doom and gloom and hate eveyrthing, no useful ideas or solutions.
I don't have a great feeling about the Syria deal... but in the grand scheme of things its not a huge problem. Keep an eye on this ex-terrorist leader closely, and keep them out of this larger Iranian war. Iran is the head of the snake.
BamBam54
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Tuna - you claim to be a Netanyahu hater, but never say which Jewish leader you like so much better. Meaning your problem is really with WHOEVER is in charge of Israel at any time, meaning you don't like the joooos.
I am not Jewish (or ANY religion at all) but I like them as our ally in the middle east. FAR more than any of the muslim countries surrounding and threatening them. They created a modern democratic society with amazing technological advancements in the middle of the desert, while the medieval barbarians all around them force women to wear drapes and strap bombs to their children. Those two sides are forever at war.... which side do YOU want to see win and spread further around the world?? A global caliphate is the ultimate muslim goal.
Obama hated Netanyahu and actually send his campaign team to Israel to help defeat Netanyahu (around 2015??). I don't know about you, but I am not a fan of Obama and his Soros funded globalist agenda. So if Obama wanted Netanyahu out, that is just another reason I would want to support him now....
If your issue is with 80% of congress/senate taking big money.... perhaps you ought to focus your anger on the dickheads actually TAKING THE MONEY.
Offering money is not the dick move. Taking it and performing favors would be!!! THINK !!!
poison
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All that being said, genocide is bad so legal or not legal, Constitutional or non Constitutional following the law does not equate to moral decision making and ethical integrity and we should all be free to call that out (and oppose my calling it out as in your case of course
But here we already have a case of violating the Constitutional Oath (on many many other policies but trying to resist going there we will be here all night and we both have a life!! lol)
Rule #1 Think for thyself
Again, there's no genocide, and I can prove it. I'm happy to do so if you want to talk about it.
Tunaking14
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Do you realize what you just said? Israel paying us to put them first isn’t a problem? That’s an insane take! You told me to take my anger out on the one taking the money!! No ****! TRUMP takes their money!!! Many in Congress and the Senate take their money and I take my anger out on them. YOU are the one defending Trump! So I can criticize the politicians other than Trump but not Trump?
poison
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Congress shouldn't take money from anyone, but in the scheme of lobbying, AIPAC is chump change. Big Pharma and the military industrial complex are vastly bigger and more powerful. Qatar has spent BILLIONS lobbying congress. China gave $1B to Hunter Biden. Facts:
Top 10 Lobbying Spenders (Clients/Organizations) in 2025
These are the biggest direct spenders on lobbying Congress and federal agencies (from OpenSecrets data):
- U.S. Chamber of Commerce — $72.1 million (top overall spender, business advocacy).
- National Association of Realtors — $54.4 million (real estate interests).
- Pharmaceutical Research & Manufacturers of America (PhRMA) — $38.2 million (drug industry).
- Business Roundtable — $33.5 million (CEOs of major corporations).
- American Hospital Association — (high in prior years; exact 2025 figure in top tier for health care).6–10: Other major players include American Medical Association, Blue Cross/Blue Shield, Comcast, Southern Co., and Edison Electric Institute (utilities/energy), rounding out the high-spend list in the tens of millions each.
Top Lobbying Firms (by Revenue) in 2025
These firms represent the most clients and earn the highest fees:
- Ballard Partners — $88.1 million (record high, Trump-linked, many foreign clients).
- Brownstein, Hyatt Farber Schreck — $73.8 million.
- BGR Group — $71.5 million.
- Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld — $65.4 million.
- Cornerstone Government Affairs — Around $55–60 million range.6–10: Holland & Knight, Invariant, Thorn Run Partners, Forbes Tate Partners, Mehlman Consulting (various in $40–50 million+ range).
Top Foreign Countries Lobbying (via FARA Registrants, Cumulative or Recent)
Foreign governments and entities spend heavily through U.S. agents:
- China — Highest cumulative spending (hundreds of millions since 2016).
- Japan — Strong trade/tech focus.
- Saudi Arabia — Often tops annual lists for influence.
- Liberia — High in some periods (shipping/registry interests).5–10: United Arab Emirates, Qatar, South Korea, India, United Kingdom, Germany (active in defense, trade, and diplomacy).
The reality is everyone will influence everything they can. Why is Israel always the focus, when they don't do it the most?
ax1
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No offense this isnt you but in general, I find it insulting that people would even wanna make that debate on this one. We can go back to his first term with his Yemen and Syria policies as well to Gaza and Ukraine as well. There is no one human in active power today who is responsible for more deaths of innocent civilians than Trump. Im not trying to troll Im calling it as I see it.
BamBam54
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Tuna - you are just repeating what you heard on the Reddit/Conspiracy forum. LOL
Slow down, have a little intellectual curiosity, and THINK !!
What money exactly has Israel given Trump?? Heck, Trump doesn't even take a paycheck, and donates his Presidential salary every year. Post your facts and source please.
Criticize anyone you want, but at least try to be smart about it.....
ax1
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Lobby money and stock trading in Congress and other parts of government should be banned period.
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"Our latest analysis uncovered >$230 MILLION in spending by pro-Israel interest groups benefiting President Donald Trump since 2020."
poison
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He is doing more of the same; difference is, this time he's not worried about reelection, and he understands that we came this close >< to losing everything, if Kamala/Walz had won. I used to believe Amnesty was needed: we allowed a loophole where people could immigrate illegally, for decades, and turned a blind eye, so naturally people took advantage of the opportunity. It's not their fault we allowed it, so why punish them for our mistake?
While I believe that was probably true for a long time, it was weaponized by the Dems to win elections, defraud America, and crush the country. Under Biden, the Dems flew and bussed illegals in by the millions, and deposited them strategically around the country to **** representation; they stole money from unrelated programs to fund this activity and benefit those illegals; they issues millions of social security numbers and DL's to those illegals, and got rid of ID requirements in many states; they even set up an app to facilitate illegal immigration (CPB One). Moreover, countries like Venezuela shipped their criminals to the US, increasing crime and death. There's only one reason Dems, to a man, refuse to vote for the SAVE act: it's because America is not into men in dresses leading the military, transing kids, defrauding taxpayers of trillions through every avenue possible, purposely doing everything in their power to increase crime, and giving the fruits of our labor to everyone BUT Americans. Americans are good people, and if the ability to cheat is removed, Dems will lose....bigly.
Given all that, I'm now for deportation. It's critical for the survival of the US. Everyone was given the opportunity to leave of their own accord, even paid to take the opportunity so as to be able to return in the future in a legal manner. People act like Trump's methods are heavy handed, but it's bullshit: that's merely how the media portrays it. We have the same guy, Homan, who Obama awarded a medal, doing the same things he was praised for under Obama; the difference is Dem governors, mayors, and PD's are not cooperating, and illegals (and citizens) are being encouraged to resist and interfere with law enforcement operations. We only have violence in Dem areas, where Dems stir it up.
If Trump can secure the elections, the Democratic party will either die a swift death, or recalibrate to better represent AMERICANS, not a third column of bribed non-Americans. American can't take care of those in need globally if we, ourselves, are weak, and aren't taking care of ourselves. If TRump is smart, he'll revamp the LEGAL immigration process to make it fast, painless, and beneficial for both Americans and those who truly desire to contribute to our success.
Tunaking14
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I think Israel is always the focus because our politicians kiss their azz 24/7 and openly talk about it. And somehow is you don't like Netanyahu then you are labeled and anti-semite! Which I'm not. I also hate big pharma but we all know Trump (and most politicians) are in bed with them as well. Now Trump is giving the greenlight on Glycophosphate production!!! That sh-t is poison and it blows my mind that stuff like this keeps happening under his second administration.
BamBam54
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I don't know what dummies are whispering in your ear that Trump "has done nothing this term" except deport illegals... but you have NOT been paying attention!! Here are just a few more items I can think of (with quick research on the specific numbers +/- from Grok) Other than illegal alien success IN JUST THE FIRST YEAR SO FAR...!!!!
Lower taxes! If the 2017 Trump tax plan had expired like Dems wanted, it would have cost every taxpaying American up to $3000 more per year. Plus with the new BBB tax plan (no tax on tips, no tax on social security, no tax on auto loans for American cars, etc.) roughly another $7000 savings per family.
Fighting the drug cartels and reducing overdose deaths. OD deaths down 30% in Trump’s first year.
Trump got NATO to agree to even MORE of their own GDP towards defense spending (upwards of 5%). And we stopped sending $200 billion to Ukraine letting Europeans provide the funding now.
Got rid of 300,000 federal workers, reducing the size of government. Removed 10 federal regulations for every new one added.
Increased drilling, lower gas prices. Increased new gas and oil drilling permits by over 60%
You might not like federal troops going in to US cities, but when crime is out of control what choice do we have? In DC, Trumps federal surge arrested over 4000 criminals (including 1400 illegal aliens) out of DC and confiscated over 1000 illegal firearms!! Number of murders in our Nation’s capitol has dropped 54% since the surge!
Trump ended men dressed as women in female school sports. Ended taxpayer funded transgender surgeries.
Ended both crossdressers and transgenders in the US military. And added tougher fitness standards!
RFK running HHS in on a great path, too! No more forced covid vaccines to children. No more poisonous food dyes. Fixed the food pyramid recommendations. Working to reduce autism. Now going after health care fraud everywhere!
DOGE was a good start, but a LOT more to do. But who doesn’t love gutting the USAID that spent 50 billion per year on stupid democrat priorities – stopping $1.5m to DEI in Serbia, $3m to LGBTQ in the Caribbean, $17m for DEI scholarships in Burma, and $43 to promote a DEI workforce in Egypt, etc!!
DOGE also cleaned up some 12 million social security numbers from the system, likely stopping additional fraud potential.
If you want a good conspiracy, how about thinking what groups are pushing all this black pill anti-Trump nonsense on the reddit forums to lead our most gullible Americans to turn on the MAGA agenda?????
ax1
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Seems like we had hope with RFK Jr but we dont, no true power unless he was a phony too but I hope the latter isnt true.
ax1
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The world found out DOGE was a farse when Elon tried to step into the center of the globes money corruption at the Pentagon and got the boot. They fail every audit year after year and trillions and trillion of dollars and fuq you Elon is the best we can do.
poison
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LOL! There isn't a debate, there is only facts: there is no genocide in Gaza. Hamas own latest figures put deaths around 75,000, and every analysis supports this general ballpark; Hamas says 25-30k fighters were killed. This is a 2:1 kill ratio, at worst, but here's the thing: EVERY military college and think tank put the 'normal' kill ratio for the kind of heavy urban combat experienced in Gaza at 6:1 or 8:1. 2:1 is unprecedented in the history of warfare. Why was this possible?
Israel did things no other military has ever done to prevent unnecessary deaths: they used leaflets and maps to tell civilians where they would be fighting and bombing; they sent millions of text messages to guide people away from the fighting; they gave weeks of warning; they would text every phone in the blast area warning them to leave just before bombing, and drop a dummy bomb as yet another warning, minutes before dropping the real thing. There were many, many other steps taken to minimize collateral deaths. Literally no army tells the enemy what they're doing before they do it, only Israel.
These are not the actions of a country committing genocide. If Israel wanted genocide, it would have been over in a week, and there would be no more Palestinians. To further make the point:
genocide /jĕn′ə-sīd″/
noun
- The systematic and widespread extermination or attempted extermination of a national, racial, religious, or ethnic group.
- The systematic killing of a racial or cultural group
Even more telling, the population of Gaza grew during the war in Gaza. Now, ask yourself what Gazan's goals were when they went into Israeli communities on Oct 7 and murdered, raped, and pillaged as many as they could (no warnings or leaflets or text messages), if not genocide? Why are there 0 Jews in Gaza, but 20% of Israeli citizens are Palestinian?
BamBam54
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The REAL problem is that you don't know what you are talking about, and get your info from sh1tty sources.
Yeah, glysophate is bad. So WHY would Trump make this move to manufacture it here?? THINK
Right now our large scale farmers are still dependent on glysophate, and China controls 99% of the world market. China could crash our total food system in seconds. Trump sees that, and is moving fast to bring that product on-shore here with American sources, until a better herbicide/farming solution is available.
Does that much at least make sense to you??????????
ax1
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Hamas was created by Israel to create division in Gaza and the Palestine Authority,
Oct 7th was a stand down order by Netenyahu, if you noticed there were mass protests for him to step down and even be arrested, it was a career saving inside job 100%. You cant even fly a mosquito through that border and you want me to believe some cavemen flew over that border and did all that? LMFAO
poison
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The country has been undermined by the Uniparty for decades. Trump isn't a part of that, and is trying to fix it, but you can't fix decades of damage in a year. He has 3 more years; look at the positive progress, the reset in direction, and give him time, if not your support, to do even more.
ax1
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Thank you for specifying the bias, if there ever was one that is it. Ill think for myself thank you.
ax1
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There barely is any difference between Trump and the Uniparty, most of their policies are all the same, they all prop up the military industrial complex and bomb one country after another, they all prop up the IRS and condone stealing my money via force, they all fund the NSA to spy on domestic citizens and prop up illegal court systems to bypass our Constitutional due process laws, they all prop up big pharma, they all prop up huge financial institutions with superficial slaps when they commit crimes agaisnt humanity, They all prop up cancel culture, they all prop up the ATF and strip our 2nd Amendment rights away.
They all part of the same club. No meaningul difference between Trump and Biden unless bathroom toilets are on top of your priority list.
All criminals, not getting my vote.
poison
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You're moving goalposts. You said there's a genocide; I proved you wrong. Now you're discussing the cause of Oct 7.
That's another, unrelated discussion. You saying definitively 'Bibi made it happen' is a lie. We don't know. Maybe Bibi wanted that to happen; maybe he allowed it, thought it would be smaller, but grossly underestimated; maybe he was undermined by lower staffers/generals and had no clue until it was too late; maybe Israel was too wrapped up elsewhere or complacent.
I do know this: the Deep State is not uniquely an America problem. It's global, including in Israel, and that was definitely some Deep State BS.
ax1
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Your blaming Gaza's for October the 7th so I corrected you, it was an inside job.
Yes there is genocide in Gaza, Ukraine, Yemen, Syria, etc....and all that blood is on Trump hands. He participated in global mass murder and genocide. Thats on him. I dont need a think tank to tell me the evils and atrocities he has participated in. Im not going to be on my own death bed looking back at my life knowing I defended all this.
Trump IS deepstate, his policies are ALL deepstate and mostly all Unconstitutional.