Donald Trump running for president

[ax1]

And still you both survived. Like 99.5% of everyone in the world.

We should not have locked down entire countries. You can guess it may have saved some lives, or not. Hard to tell since everyone got the virus anyway.

I strongly believe that the 6 trillion the US spent on covid, and the damage to young students locked out of school for 2 years, will be more destructive long term than the virus.

Probably could have discovered the cure for cancer with that kinda money.

 

[Anabolic66]

Don't be afraid to tell us how you feel.
LOL

LOL

 

[Dustin07]

People were not taking any precautions and ending up in hospital, expecting to be helped, but they took no responsibility for preventing it in the first place

You know people who were members of this forum died to COVID right? It's disrespectful to discredit their loss simply because your experience was different.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1201971221009966
The PCR test could literally distinguish between COVID and the flu lol.

https://academic.oup.com/ofid/article/11/2/ofae039/7585852
Symptoms between vaccinated and unvaccinated were reduced.

The point I was making and still stand by is that the truth is far less severe than anything anyone will ever know and none of these garbage studies are worth a damn. follow the money. One of they authors on that second study you posted shows clearly that she sits on pharma boards.

Just today was talking to a co-worker, I know his mom and remember when she had said her dad died of covid. So out of respect, I never touched the topic with her. He told me today it's not true, he was in his 90s and had kidney transplants 30 years ago that were projected to extend his life only 10 years. he was already in critical, died of kidney failure, and was classified as covid.


you absolutely cannot categorically every say that the vaccine lowered symptoms. that's an incredibly assinine for the MSM to shove down our throats. AGAIN, I HAD legit covid. lost my sense of taste and smell. But I didn't roll over and lie in bed for a week. I continued my daily 2 mile jog, vitamins, gatorade/electrolytes, AND bourbon and Pho. at the worst of it my 2 mile jog turned into a very tired 2 mile run/jog. My very fit xfit competing co-workers went home and laid in bed for 2 weeks.

vaccine wasn't even available yet. but right there you could tell the world that I had the vaccine and my symptoms were less severe. it's a garbage narrative that means nothing. what we know in reality is that the vaccine compromises immunity drastically and the majority of repeat infections were among the vaccinated, along with the vaccine related injuries that those of us with natural immunity didn't have to face in the first place.

the vaccine NEVER had any efficacy. we were seeing reports of repeat infections in the first 6 months. Thats why they 'invented' boosters to keep that money train going. pure garbage.

 

[ax1]

Lets not forgot treatments were blocked because they were either "Republican" treatments or "MAGA" treatments, such as what was it called Ivermectin? And then blood plasma treatments they were doing in Florida, etc.....so really, we can top the vaccine story with that, medicine was political and heavily corrupted, you cant take credit for saving lives by blocking competition, ignoring natural acquired immunity, etc....gonna get repetitive in here.

 

[Jiigzz]

The point I was making and still stand by is that the truth is far less severe than anything anyone will ever know and none of these garbage studies are worth a damn. follow the money. One of they authors on that second study you posted shows clearly that she sits on pharma boards.

Just today was talking to a co-worker, I know his mom and remember when she had said her dad died of covid. So out of respect, I never touched the topic with her. He told me today it's not true, he was in his 90s and had kidney transplants 30 years ago that were projected to extend his life only 10 years. he was already in critical, died of kidney failure, and was classified as covid.


you absolutely cannot categorically every say that the vaccine lowered symptoms. that's an incredibly assinine for the MSM to shove down our throats. AGAIN, I HAD legit covid. lost my sense of taste and smell. But I didn't roll over and lie in bed for a week. I continued my daily 2 mile jog, vitamins, gatorade/electrolytes, AND bourbon and Pho. at the worst of it my 2 mile jog turned into a very tired 2 mile run/jog. My very fit xfit competing co-workers went home and laid in bed for 2 weeks.

vaccine wasn't even available yet. but right there you could tell the world that I had the vaccine and my symptoms were less severe. it's a garbage narrative that means nothing. what we know in reality is that the vaccine compromises immunity drastically and the majority of repeat infections were among the vaccinated, along with the vaccine related injuries that those of us with natural immunity didn't have to face in the first place.

the vaccine NEVER had any efficacy. we were seeing reports of repeat infections in the first 6 months. Thats why they 'invented' boosters to keep that money train going. pure garbage.

I had COVID as well, and it absolutely floored me. I have no underlying medical conditions, and have always been fit, not overweight, no family history of heart disease etc etc.

I wasn't sniffly or coughing. I had severe indigestion type pain (like intense cramping) and significant breathing difficulties, fatigue and extreme lathargy. Water felt like literal pins everytime I showered. I was over it within 5 days, but it was absolutely intense. If the difference between your symptoms and mine came down to viral load at the point of infection, then there's no anticipating how one person might react compared to another.

I had gone into work the day I fell sick, and I was sitting next to our lead investigator who was like 100 years old. He didn't get sick, and I sat next to him all day literally wondering wtf was happening because my symptoms were not what I was expecting for COVID. My partner caught it, and she had the same symptoms as me but was able to function pretty normally.

The person I caught it from, literally a 29 year old fit person, was in hospital on a ventilator the week before.

Again, your experience is one others had, just as mine was an experience others had.

 

[Jiigzz]

And still you both survived. Like 99.5% of everyone in the world.

We should not have locked down entire countries. You can guess it may have saved some lives, or not. Hard to tell since everyone got the virus anyway.

I strongly believe that the 6 trillion the US spent on covid, and the damage to young students locked out of school for 2 years, will be more destructive long term than the virus.

Yeah I agree. In hindsight it was an overreaction. I was travelling when it was announced, and a friend's brother was living near Wuhan at the time and said the govt over there was going crazy. He showed us videos of people dropping dead in the streets.

Propaganda from their govt or not, if that was true you'd also do anything to protect your country. It's only in hindsight that you think about whether it was real or not

 

[ax1]

I had COVID as well, and it absolutely floored me. I have no underlying medical conditions, and have always been fit, not overweight (85kg).

I wasn't sniffly or coughing, I had severe indigestion type pain (like intense cramping) and significant breathing difficulties. Water felt like literal pins everytime I showered. I was over it within 5 days, but it was absolutely intense.

Your experience doesn't negate others. I am 34 now.

Everybody gets sick, had the flu, covid whateva at least more than a dozen times in my lifetime, it sucks but we live in a generation of tulips (not talking about you or anyone with underlying medical conditions....)

Back in the 90s, early 2000s even, any job I had if I had the flu or anyone else you better show up to work even if your floored almost to the ass. These days you get a itchy throat and the world stops.

 

[Jiigzz]

Everybody gets sick, had the flu, covid whateva at least more than a dozen times in my lifetime, it sucks but we live in a generation of tulips (not talking about you or anyone with underlying medical conditions....)

Back in the 90s, early 2000s even, any job I had if I had the flu or anyone else you better show up to work even if your floored almost to the ass. These days you get a itchy throat and the world stops.

I've had the flu plenty, it had nothing on my experience with COVID.

 

[Jiigzz]

Common sense, knowing how the world works and corrupted medical industry. Our own government here in NY got caught covering up covid deaths with senior citizens at nursing homes which they were like, "hey lets put a deadly super infectious patients in with the weakest on the planet!!!!" Meanwhile the world would shyt on people like me for using the most basic common sense being like, WTF??? as that was announced.

Its crazy times, but this is what happens when anybody who opposes the official government narrative and they weaponize social media against their bottom line$.

The problem with any society is that the people who are often the heads of various departments, actually have very limited experience in the actual fields.

Because friends simply recruit friends. It's common all over the world.

I once reported to a CTO who could barely used a computer, lol.

 

[ax1]

The problem with any society is that the people who are often the heads of various departments, actually have very limited experience in the actual fields.

Because friends simply recruit friends. It's common all over the world.

I once reported to a CTO who could barely used a computer, lol.

Yeah freaking nepotism….seen it way worse in China so lucky to be in the USA but still an issue here for sure.

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

Did you read the study? CFR was higher in the early stages but decreased over time. This is to be expected, and is documented in the study itself.

Once Vaccination and Omicron came, the rates bottomed out. It's literally in the report.

That's like an armed gunman killing 30 people in a room of 1000, and people saying "it wasn't that bad!", despite the fact that the reason he didn't kill more was because the doors between rooms were reinforced and him being shot dead during the ordeal. Then after the fact, people argue that the doors were a waste of money because the gunman only killed 30 people.

Like would you feel more validated if more people died? Why would you wish that just to prove a point?

It also neglects to tell the stories of overworked health workers literally piling people up in the hallways giving life saving care, only for someone to piss on them later and say "more people should have died to justify the lockdowns".

It literally makes no sense.

That's what we call the preparation paradox.

"The preparedness paradox is the proposition that if a society or individual acts effectively to mitigate a potential disaster such as a pandemic, natural disaster or other catastrophe so that it causes less harm, the avoided danger will be perceived as having been much less serious because of the limited damage actually caused."

TRUST THE SCIENCE!~

some of dat der bought and paid for BS. FO dude.

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

Regardless of what your beliefs are, the govt has a duty to all people, not just its voters or itself.

If the govt failed to act and the first wave had stuck around, you'd blame the govt for not doing enough. The goal wasn't to prevent all transmissions, the goal was to prevent stretching an already overstretched hospital system.

Hospitals were literally flooded with people on ventilators, BEGGING staff to save them.

It's a reality you probably didn't have the privilege of seeing, but that didn't make it any less real.

again... pure conjecture. the hospitals were empty enough they never needed the mercy ships. the Drs and nurses were posting dance numbers on TIK TOK FFS.
enough with the fukin grift already.

 

[ax1]

 

[Tunaking14]

Regardless of what your beliefs are, the govt has a duty to all people, not just its voters or itself.

If the govt failed to act and the first wave had stuck around, you'd blame the govt for not doing enough. The goal wasn't to prevent all transmissions, the goal was to prevent stretching an already overstretched hospital system.

Hospitals were literally flooded with people on ventilators, BEGGING staff to save them.

It's a reality you probably didn't have the privilege of seeing, but that didn't make it any less real.

the ventilators killed more people than Covid!!! You are brainwashed.

 

[Tunaking14]

And still you both survived. Like 99.5% of everyone in the world.

We should not have locked down entire countries. You can guess it may have saved some lives, or not. Hard to tell since everyone got the virus anyway.

I strongly believe that the 6 trillion the US spent on covid, and the damage to young students locked out of school for 2 years, will be more destructive long term than the virus.

100% agree!

 

[Jiigzz]

again... pure conjecture. the hospitals were empty enough they never needed the mercy ships. the Drs and nurses were posting dance numbers on TIK TOK FFS.
enough with the fukin grift already.

Hospitals were empty?

Were you there everyday like they were? How do you know this?

Is having fun on the job banned where you live?

 

[Jiigzz]

the ventilators killed more people than Covid!!! You are brainwashed.

Why were the people on ventilators? I mean, if you're on a ventilator, the prognosis generally isn't great.

That's like saying seatbelts kill people when you hit a wall at 100mph

 

[botk1161]

Hospitals were empty?

Were you there everyday like they were? How do you know this?

Hospitals were empty in my town. I was not there everyday, but unfortunately was at the hospital at least once every 3 weeks all through covid (a few very sick people in my family / I am the baby) and multiple hospitals were "always" like ghost towns. You could walk halls for miles and not see anyone. Hardly anyone was working. If you did not have an appointment, you could not enter. And emergency would not let anyone in, but the party needing care - even if they were on deaths door, you were not allowed to advocate for them. it was terrible. Just to get in to help someone who needed help getting to their appointment was a nightmare. Ghost towns with zero service. Covid was such an absolute scam it was unreal.

 

[ax1]

We did have a actual Ventilator tech from a Hospital on this forum a while back.

 

[sammpedd88]

The point I was making and still stand by is that the truth is far less severe than anything anyone will ever know and none of these garbage studies are worth a damn. follow the money. One of they authors on that second study you posted shows clearly that she sits on pharma boards.

Just today was talking to a co-worker, I know his mom and remember when she had said her dad died of covid. So out of respect, I never touched the topic with her. He told me today it's not true, he was in his 90s and had kidney transplants 30 years ago that were projected to extend his life only 10 years. he was already in critical, died of kidney failure, and was classified as covid.


you absolutely cannot categorically every say that the vaccine lowered symptoms. that's an incredibly assinine for the MSM to shove down our throats. AGAIN, I HAD legit covid. lost my sense of taste and smell. But I didn't roll over and lie in bed for a week. I continued my daily 2 mile jog, vitamins, gatorade/electrolytes, AND bourbon and Pho. at the worst of it my 2 mile jog turned into a very tired 2 mile run/jog. My very fit xfit competing co-workers went home and laid in bed for 2 weeks.

vaccine wasn't even available yet. but right there you could tell the world that I had the vaccine and my symptoms were less severe. it's a garbage narrative that means nothing. what we know in reality is that the vaccine compromises immunity drastically and the majority of repeat infections were among the vaccinated, along with the vaccine related injuries that those of us with natural immunity didn't have to face in the first place.

the vaccine NEVER had any efficacy. we were seeing reports of repeat infections in the first 6 months. Thats why they 'invented' boosters to keep that money train going. pure garbage.

I had Covid the first time in May 2021. It kicked my ass. Didn’t eat anything for 4 days and lost 20 pounds. Looked like a POW. Ran a high fever on and off for those 4 days. Had it December 2023. Felt like a mild case of the flu for about 2 days. Didn’t get that poisonous vaccine either. Natural immunity should have been the push instead of the vaccine. Too many major health issues from it.

 

[ax1]

Did I start all this by mentioning Trump's little jewel called Operation Warp Speed late last night??? LOL

 

[sammpedd88]

Why were the people on ventilators? I mean, if you're on a ventilator, the prognosis generally isn't great.

That's like saying seatbelts kill people when you hit a wall at 100mph

Medical professionals are now saying the ventilators were a poor choice in most cases. Hospitals should have been using other methods of treatment but it was blocked by the Facucci and his cohorts.

 

[Jiigzz]

Hospitals were empty in my town. I was not there everyday, but unfortunately was at the hospital at least once every 3 weeks all through covid (a few very sick people in my family / I am the baby) and multiple hospitals were "always" like ghost towns. If you did not have an appointment, you could not enter. And emergency would not let anyone, but the party needing care in - even if they were on deaths door and could not advocate for themselves. Just to get in to help someone who needed help getting to their appointment was a nightmare. Ghost towns. Covid was such an absolute scam it was unreal.

In major cities, the hospitals were on the verge of collapse. It obviously will vary town to town. But places like Tokyo had a very difficult time

We did have a actual Ventilator tech from a Hospital on this forum a while back.

That was Ricky I think

 

[Jiigzz]

I had Covid the first time in May 2021. It kicked my ass. Didn’t eat anything for 4 days and lost 20 pounds. Looked like a POW. Ran a high fever on and off for those 4 days. Had it December 2023. Felt like a mild case of the flu for about 2 days. Didn’t get that poisonous vaccine either. Natural immunity should have been the push instead of the vaccine. Too many major health issues from it.

For sure.

I think where I find issue is knowing people, and even people from this forum, who died from COVID. So calling it BS seems a bit excessive knowing that.

But that doesn't mean it isn't hard to understand why its such a hot topic.

 

[ax1]

@Ricky10 still around?

 

[ax1]

Ricky likely gone, but what Ill say is he went through hell at the hospital in Portland during the CCP-Virus era, overworked, under-rewarded (they gave him a refrigerator magnet as a bonus!) and the place was jam packed. He was near Portland I think somewhere populated.

 

[BamBam54]

For sure.

I think where I find issue is knowing people, and even people from this forum, who died from COVID. So calling it BS seems a bit excessive knowing that.

But that doesn't mean it isn't hard to understand why its such a hot topic.

I think it's fair to say we all know people who died from lots of things... cancer, heart attack, pneumonia, etc.

Covid was different in that the government(s) used it as a means to implement drastic new controls over its people, and loss of freedom in a way never before experienced in our lifetime. Lockdowns. Vaccine cards for entry to businesses. Forced vaccinations or losing your job. Government paying people NOT to work.

Here in the US, they used the covid excuse to implement widescale mail-in election ballots (that were rejected every time prior in normal congressional voting) that then changed the outcome of the presidential election. Which then allowed MORE loss of free speech and more draconian controls over the people. It was a real pivotal moment/movement in history.

And now that we know much of it was made up... the 6ft distancing, the masking, rhe other remedies banned, the official vaccine that turns out didn't stop spreading, that didn't stop infection, even after multiple boosters, forced on so many people who had to sign waivers preventing any future lawsuit if injured etc... it's fair to say this particular pandemic was "weaponized" for partisan political purposes.

 

[Dustin07]

The problem here was that our hospital system was pushed to the brink, and I imagine that would have been the case in your bigger cities.

that's only partially true. we had military hospitals deployed around the nation that were never used. Much (not all, I admit) of the taxing that occurred on the hospitals because of the garbage bureaucracy, red tape and useless protocols that were created.

as mentioned above, I do recall how empty our local hopsital was when I took my wife in for an unrelated appointment. total ghost town but wrapped up in all it's bubble bullshit to protect everyone from ebola monkeys.

Medical professionals are now saying the ventilators were a poor choice in most cases. Hospitals should have been using other methods of treatment but it was blocked by the Facucci and his cohorts.

we found out pretty fast that ventilators were the kiss of death. Hospitals flocked to them because the govt stipened was like $35k for every ventilator use.

what was the bonus that hospitals received for every dead covid patient? $48k or something like that? yeah ok everyone just died of covid lol

 

[Dustin07]

I had COVID as well, and it absolutely floored me. I have no underlying medical conditions, and have always been fit, not overweight, no family history of heart disease etc etc.

I wasn't sniffly or coughing. I had severe indigestion type pain (like intense cramping) and significant breathing difficulties, fatigue and extreme lathargy. Water felt like literal pins everytime I showered. I was over it within 5 days, but it was absolutely intense. If the difference between your symptoms and mine came down to viral load at the point of infection, then there's no anticipating how one person might react compared to another.

I had gone into work the day I fell sick, and I was sitting next to our lead investigator who was like 100 years old. He didn't get sick, and I sat next to him all day literally wondering wtf was happening because my symptoms were not what I was expecting for COVID. My partner caught it, and she had the same symptoms as me but was able to function pretty normally.

The person I caught it from, literally a 29 year old fit person, was in hospital on a ventilator the week before.

Again, your experience is one others had, just as mine was an experience others had.

I might have done a poor job of communicating my point earlier, but what I was driving at... your response here is exactly why the "vaccinated people have less severe symptoms" is a bogus narrative that is for one thing, completely unprovable. But for another thing, take your experience and my experience. People would use me as the "vaccinated, less severe symptoms" example. Does that make sense?

I'm just showing here how two people with similar symptoms have different experiences, (assuming we both legit had covid) and you can't tell me or anyone else that a vaccine lowered anyones symptoms. Especially since most vaccinated people were on event number 2, 3 or 4 with COVID whereas my very mild experience with COVID was a one and done, natural immunity was enough for me. never had it again.

 

[BamBam54]

Personally, my covid experience was lame. A nasty cough was all. No fever, no loss of taste or smell. Like bronchitis without the sickness. Never vaxed.

I had pneumonia in my 40's and that was much worse. But still never missed a day of work. LOL. Maybe I should have stayed home to not risk infecting others? But heck... when only the strong survive, we are better off in the long run.

 

[BamBam54]

On a current topic....this is GREAT news!!!!! And @ax1 can thank Trump!

This what we were always hoping and waiting for, now finally happening!

Tulsi Gabbard says more than 100 intelligence officers to be fired over sexually explicit chats

Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard said more than 100 federal employees within the intelligence community will be terminated for alleged ties to explicit chats.

www.fox5dc.com

Get these woke deviant rogue deep state freaks out of government!!!

 

[ax1]

On a current topic....this is GREAT news!!!!! And @ax1 can thank Trump!

This what we were always hoping and waiting for, now finally happening!

Tulsi Gabbard says more than 100 intelligence officers to be fired over sexually explicit chats

Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard said more than 100 federal employees within the intelligence community will be terminated for alleged ties to explicit chats.

www.fox5dc.com

Get these woke deviant rogue deep state freaks out of government!!!

 

[ax1]

I think i had Covid but the closest testing place to me was not just a few miles away from me, but 2 hours!!!!! Maybe I had the flu, I dunno was sick as hell, so was my wife, barely could move for days. Had the flu many times, life can be hard sometimes but I take care of my health and deal with it. Used to be fat, used to party well none of that crap take personal responsibility for myself and Im still young under 50. After Covid people turned out just for the worse for themselves, I trained the entire time and kept a healthy diet, no drinking even though that was "essential" as declared by the NY State Government, LMFAO pathetic azzwipes. (I got no beef with drinkers, do as you wish Im no better person than you)

I visited my Uncle in Sicily last year, he is a nurse and got the shot, showed me his shoulder and it was bloated because of the shot. Not sure which brand he took though, forgot to ask.

 

[Jiigzz]

I think it's fair to say we all know people who died from lots of things... cancer, heart attack, pneumonia, etc.

Covid was different in that the government(s) used it as a means to implement drastic new controls over its people, and loss of freedom in a way never before experienced in our lifetime. Lockdowns. Vaccine cards for entry to businesses. Forced vaccinations or losing your job. Government paying people NOT to work.

Here in the US, they used the covid excuse to implement widescale mail-in election ballots (that were rejected every time prior in normal congressional voting) that then changed the outcome of the presidential election. Which then allowed MORE loss of free speech and more draconian controls over the people. It was a real pivotal moment/movement in history.

And now that we know much of it was made up... the 6ft distancing, the masking, rhe other remedies banned, the official vaccine that turns out didn't stop spreading, that didn't stop infection, even after multiple boosters, forced on so many people who had to sign waivers preventing any future lawsuit if injured etc... it's fair to say this particular pandemic was "weaponized" for partisan political purposes.

Yeah, I get that your experience was different to mine, so it's hard to compare. We had lockdowns and the forced vaccinations or lose your job type stuff, but other parts of it weren't the same.

We still had capacity to work, get out, do things etc but just had restrictions on how far from your home you could be (i.e. you could explore your neighbourhood but couldn't cross the city).

 

[ax1]

Yeah, I get that your experience was different to mine, so it's hard to compare. We had lockdowns and the forced vaccinations or lose your job type stuff, but other parts of it weren't the same.

We still had capacity to work, get out, do things etc but just had restrictions on how far from your home you could be (i.e. you could explore your neighbourhood but couldn't cross the city).

Everyone sure has their own responses, Im glad you both make it through.

This is also a great example of the importance of individual doctor to patient care over government one size fits all mandates that usually lead to worse results.

 

[Dustin07]

I think i had Covid but the closest testing place to me was not just a few miles away from me, but 2 hours!!!!! Maybe I had the flu, I dunno was sick as hell, so was my wife, barely could move for days.

a lot of my co-workers were very much like that. Mine felt like that feeling you have a few days before the flu knocks you on your butt, but never actually turned into a flu. like that hot eyes, low grade fever feeling when you know it's coming... but never did. My mom and dad in their 60s, my son at age 11 or 12 back then, all were similar to me. My mom talks about how she went out to go gardening and felt like she over did it so came back in the house and rested for a day... that was her experience.

it makes me wonder if genetics also play a role in how we each experienced this bizarre man made virus.

We had lockdowns and the forced vaccinations or lose your job type stuff, but other parts of it weren't the same.

I'm still shocked that we haven't seen more backlash from that yet. I hope RFK leads to more findings that give people the firepower they need. I think one of the issues at play is that Trump started the development of the vax, which the dems said they'd never take. Then they forced it on everyone. So even as a Trump voter myself, I hate his vaccine. I think right leaning people struggle with that if they are opposed to this particular vax but also love Trump/MAGA. Then you have the leftists who suckle at the teet of mandates and beg for their next booster, but hate Trump, who created operation warp speed, lol.

 

[BamBam54]

a lot of my co-workers were very much like that. Mine felt like that feeling you have a few days before the flu knocks you on your butt, but never actually turned into a flu. like that hot eyes, low grade fever feeling when you know it's coming... but never did. My mom and dad in their 60s, my son at age 11 or 12 back then, all were similar to me. My mom talks about how she went out to go gardening and felt like she over did it so came back in the house and rested for a day... that was her experience.

it makes me wonder if genetics also play a role in how we each experienced this bizarre man made virus.


I'm still shocked that we haven't seen more backlash from that yet. I hope RFK leads to more findings that give people the firepower they need. I think one of the issues at play is that Trump started the development of the vax, which the dems said they'd never take. Then they forced it on everyone. So even as a Trump voter myself, I hate his vaccine. I think right leaning people struggle with that if they are opposed to this particular vax but also love Trump/MAGA. Then you have the leftists who suckle at the teet of mandates and beg for their next booster, but hate Trump, who created operation warp speed, lol.

The Fauci crowd screamed that we needed a vaccine, but that it would take years to develop. Trump pushed American ingenuity and resources to get it done in less than a year. Take it if you want, should remain optional.... but for those that wanted it, Trump made it possible.

Same with NYC screaming for ventilators and hospital ships. Trump delivered both to NY at record speed... and that scumbag Cuomo barely even used them.

I just like resolving Dem hysteria to get on with the business of the country.

 

[ax1]

The Fauci crowd screamed that we needed a vaccine, but that it would take years to develop. Trump pushed American ingenuity and resources to get it done in less than a year. Take it if you want, should remain optional.... but for those that wanted it, Trump made it possible.

Same with NYC screaming for ventilators and hospital ships. Trump delivered both to NY at record speed... and that scumbag Cuomo barely even used them.

I just like resolving Dem hysteria to get on with the business of the country.

Then the complete retardness of "you need to get vaccinated to protect others" ..... well you dumb dipshyts, if you got the shot what in the blue freaking fudge you fudging fudge krap worried about dambn libtard kunt.

 

[ax1]

Excuse all the extreme profanity, really one issue starts upsetting at me looking back at it and how people rolled their eyes at me when I bought some of these issues up.

 

[baldwanus]

This is also a great example of the importance of individual doctor to patient care over government one size fits all mandates that usually lead to worse results.

I had an amazing rheumatologist that I saw for my psoriatic arthritis... gonna miss him now that he's retired, especially after the rona'. I had an appt with him shortly after the first round of vaccines rolled out, and he was pretty adamant about me not taking it. IIRC there had been a study overseas about people getting shingles after the vax, and again IIRC of the people who got shingles, a huge % of them had some sort of auto immune disease. We had a lot of fun discussions.

 

[Dustin07]

Then the complete retardness of "you need to get vaccinated to protect others" ..... well you dumb dipshyts, if you got the shot what in the blue freaking fudge you fudging fudge krap worried about dambn libtard kunt.

lol I can't even

Excuse all the extreme profanity, really one issue starts upsetting at me looking back at it and how people rolled their eyes at me when I bought some of these issues up.

same. I'm pretty sure I'll be an old man in 40 years still pissed off about it.

I had an amazing rheumatologist that I saw for my psoriatic arthritis... gonna miss him now that he's retired, especially after the rona'. I had an appt with him shortly after the first round of vaccines rolled out, and he was pretty adamant about me not taking it. IIRC there had been a study overseas about people getting shingles after the vax, and again IIRC of the people who got shingles, a huge % of them had some sort of auto immune disease. We had a lot of fun discussions.

the vax has caused people to have autoimmune as well. a lot of the stats on it are just now coming out. but remember when everyone in Australia was suddenly testing positive for aids post vax???

 

[Jiigzz]

that's only partially true. we had military hospitals deployed around the nation that were never used. Much (not all, I admit) of the taxing that occurred on the hospitals because of the garbage bureaucracy, red tape and useless protocols that were created.

as mentioned above, I do recall how empty our local hopsital was when I took my wife in for an unrelated appointment. total ghost town but wrapped up in all it's bubble bullshit to protect everyone from ebola monkeys.


we found out pretty fast that ventilators were the kiss of death. Hospitals flocked to them because the govt stipened was like $35k for every ventilator use.

what was the bonus that hospitals received for every dead covid patient? $48k or something like that? yeah ok everyone just died of covid lol

Without knowing (or caring) about what the actual ventilators cost (Ricky might know), i do know that intubation (or any intensive care) is not cheap at all. US rates will be different of course, but here I would imagine the cost would be in the thousands per day, if not tens of thousands.

If people's blood oxygen levels drop, they needed to intubate. It's just a reality. You don't let people just die if their oxygen levels drop critically low. Of course mortality would be higher for intubated patients simply because at that stage it is already critical.

But that's Ricky's domain, and he made some really good posts a few years ago about that.

 

[Jiigzz]

a lot of my co-workers were very much like that. Mine felt like that feeling you have a few days before the flu knocks you on your butt, but never actually turned into a flu. like that hot eyes, low grade fever feeling when you know it's coming... but never did. My mom and dad in their 60s, my son at age 11 or 12 back then, all were similar to me. My mom talks about how she went out to go gardening and felt like she over did it so came back in the house and rested for a day... that was her experience.

it makes me wonder if genetics also play a role in how we each experienced this bizarre man made virus.


I'm still shocked that we haven't seen more backlash from that yet. I hope RFK leads to more findings that give people the firepower they need. I think one of the issues at play is that Trump started the development of the vax, which the dems said they'd never take. Then they forced it on everyone. So even as a Trump voter myself, I hate his vaccine. I think right leaning people struggle with that if they are opposed to this particular vax but also love Trump/MAGA. Then you have the leftists who suckle at the teet of mandates and beg for their next booster, but hate Trump, who created operation warp speed, lol.

I'm convinced the lockdowns destroyed people mentally.

The rise of crime since, delinquency (because kids were used to not going to school), reduced education etc etc etc will all be a net negative in years to come.

People are angrier than they were before COVID.

When you couple that with the stupid high costs of living (it's bad here), the last few years explain why people are so angry, but it's still so noticeable.

I'd even be interested to know the impacts on working from home on people's mentality. When you reduce your social interaction, there has to be long term impacts. People are so intolerant of others it's crazy

 

[Jiigzz]

Everyone sure has their own responses, Im glad you both make it through.

This is also a great example of the importance of individual doctor to patient care over government one size fits all mandates that usually lead to worse results.

I was very fortunate to be able to work through COVID. Saved me from losing my mind.

Then the complete retardness of "you need to get vaccinated to protect others" ..... well you dumb dipshyts, if you got the shot what in the blue freaking fudge you fudging fudge krap worried about dambn libtard kunt.

Lol

 

[sammpedd88]

that's only partially true. we had military hospitals deployed around the nation that were never used. Much (not all, I admit) of the taxing that occurred on the hospitals because of the garbage bureaucracy, red tape and useless protocols that were created.

as mentioned above, I do recall how empty our local hopsital was when I took my wife in for an unrelated appointment. total ghost town but wrapped up in all it's bubble bullshit to protect everyone from ebola monkeys.


we found out pretty fast that ventilators were the kiss of death. Hospitals flocked to them because the govt stipened was like $35k for every ventilator use.

what was the bonus that hospitals received for every dead covid patient? $48k or something like that? yeah ok everyone just died of covid lol

The Fauci crowd screamed that we needed a vaccine, but that it would take years to develop. Trump pushed American ingenuity and resources to get it done in less than a year. Take it if you want, should remain optional.... but for those that wanted it, Trump made it possible.

Same with NYC screaming for ventilators and hospital ships. Trump delivered both to NY at record speed... and that scumbag Cuomo barely even used them.

I just like resolving Dem hysteria to get on with the business of the country.

Yeah he let the elderly in rest homes die. He is a POS!

 

[Dustin07]

Without knowing (or caring) about what the actual ventilators cost (Ricky might know), i do know that intubation (or any intensive care) is not cheap at all. US rates will be different of course, but here I would imagine the cost would be in the thousands per day, if not tens of thousands.

If people's blood oxygen levels drop, they needed to intubate. It's just a reality. You don't let people just die if their oxygen levels drop critically low. Of course mortality would be higher for intubated patients simply because at that stage it is already critical.

But that's Ricky's domain, and he made some really good posts a few years ago about that.

I think a lot of that falls into where you stand from the conspiracy theory side of things. If you are me, then you see a scam afoot. My company was litterally contracted to help on ventilators, so the business was good for us, "essential" so we were not closed. but I do not buy the narrative that hospitals required government stipend/bonuses to treat patients and I do believe this led to a lot of fake covid deaths. people who died of many many other causes, being registered as COVID or ventilated when not needed.

I'm convinced the lockdowns destroyed people mentally.

The rise of crime since, delinquency (because kids were used to not going to school), reduced education etc etc etc will all be a net negative in years to come.

People are angrier than they were before COVID.

When you couple that with the stupid high costs of living (it's bad here), the last few years explain why people are so angry, but it's still so noticeable.

I'd even be interested to know the impacts on working from home on people's mentality. When you reduce your social interaction, there has to be long term impacts. People are so intolerant of others it's crazy

zero doubt.
I have family who said a lot of the kids on campus just wore masks even when they didn't have to anymore beause it was a way of "hiding" and maintaining privacy in public. honestly its pretty demented. and other college kids I know who were coerced into the jab because they had a couple months left in university but were not allowed to attend on campus without it. Remote learning was available, but not as effective in scenarios.

 

[Dustin07]

Coincidentally, 39 year old Michelle Trachtenberg just died after a liver transplant. Liver damage is a known side effect from the vaccine and she was a staunch pro-vax liberal.

Michelle Trachtenberg, 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer' star, dead at 39

Michelle Trachtenberg, who starred in "Gossip Girl," "Harriet the Spy" and "Buffy the Vampire Slayer," has died. The actress was 39 years old.

www.foxnews.com

of course there is no proof that it's related. but what a shame, so incredibly young. I feel young and she was 3 years younger than me.

 

[Yo holmes]

Coincidentally, 39 year old Michelle Trachtenberg just died after a liver transplant. Liver damage is a known side effect from the vaccine and she was a staunch pro-vax liberal.

Michelle Trachtenberg, 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer' star, dead at 39

Michelle Trachtenberg, who starred in "Gossip Girl," "Harriet the Spy" and "Buffy the Vampire Slayer," has died. The actress was 39 years old.

www.foxnews.com

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of course there is no proof that it's related. but what a shame, so incredibly young. I feel young and she was 3 years younger than me.

You all on here still bitching about the Vax, meanwhile people are dying from measles because they refuse to be vaccinated and now polio is creeping back up.., too many stupid and gullible people in America

 

[sammpedd88]

Measles is coming from illegals crossing the border that the high majority have never had any kind of vaccine.

Most polio cases today are from the vaccine itself, called vaccine derived polio virus. That’s according to the Mayo Clinic.

 

[Dustin07]

meanwhile people are dying from measles

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