baldwanus
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Mitch McConnell is long gone, it's just a lifeless corpse rolling around in a wheelchair. Casts his votes Weekend At Bernies style.
Donald Trump running for president
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sammpedd88
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No doubt man. Andy Barr is supposed to run for his seat if McConnell doesn’t run again in 2026. I don’t think he will make it that long.
I don’t know anything about Barr.
baldwanus
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From the outside looking in, I'd prefer to see Massie stepping up from the House. Have Rand put him on his committees.
sammpedd88
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That’s not a bad idea at all. Either way, as long as a good strong repub gets the spot, I’m happy. But hell a damn scarecrow could do better than what Mitch is doing.
ax1
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Massie is my favorite congressman, not perfect but one of the very few I like overall. He is only an R by name.
BamBam54
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Tarrif revenue isn't nearly enough to cover the lost tax revenue. Just look at the total amount of imported goods compared to the current income tax base. The tarrif needed would be like 2000%
BUT, maybe combined with a nationwide flat tax on all sales, the combo could work.
Edit- total us imports = 3.86 trillion compared to Total tax revenue of 4.47 trillion
xR1pp3Rx
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Lutnick says that's because we don't tax anything coming into the country. ... YET.Tarrif revenue isn't nearly enough to cover the lost tax revenue. Just look at the total amount of imported goods compared to the current income tax base. The tarrif needed would be like 2000%
BUT, maybe combined with a nationwide flat tax on all sales, the combo could work.
Edit- total us imports = 3.86 trillion compared to Total tax revenue of 4.47 trillion
HIT4ME
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So, it's been a minute. But back in 2020 there were many on here arguing that the kick downs were bogus, this was just government over reach and death rates were being exaggerated.
While I believed their reasoning was flawed (and still do) and I don't think I ever fully sided with the liberals either, I tried to take a cautious approach and treat it as a real danger...even if some things like mandating vaccines seemed illogical with faulty reasoning as well.
But to everyone who told me the death rate was going to be much lower in the end, faulty reasoning or not, it seems like maybe I was wrong and you told me so....
www.outkick.com
Other than that, it's good to see some of the old crew still keeping things going here.
Maybe tarrifs would cover income tax, you know, if we had fewer expenses to cover with those tax dollars....like maybe saving 3M social security checks going out every month. If only they could find a way to do that.
While I believed their reasoning was flawed (and still do) and I don't think I ever fully sided with the liberals either, I tried to take a cautious approach and treat it as a real danger...even if some things like mandating vaccines seemed illogical with faulty reasoning as well.
But to everyone who told me the death rate was going to be much lower in the end, faulty reasoning or not, it seems like maybe I was wrong and you told me so....
COVID Mortality Risk Was Nearly Nonexistent, New Study Finds
This study serves as yet another reminder of the stupidity of our ruling elites and their mouth-breathing devotion to listening to themselves, and only themselves.
www.outkick.com
Other than that, it's good to see some of the old crew still keeping things going here.
Maybe tarrifs would cover income tax, you know, if we had fewer expenses to cover with those tax dollars....like maybe saving 3M social security checks going out every month. If only they could find a way to do that.
xR1pp3Rx
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It's OK brother. Welcome back. Good to see you too!So, it's been a minute. But back in 2020 there were many on here arguing that the kick downs were bogus, this was just government over reach and death rates were being exaggerated.
While I believed their reasoning was flawed (and still do) and I don't think I ever fully sided with the liberals either, I tried to take a cautious approach and treat it as a real danger...even if some things like mandating vaccines seemed illogical with faulty reasoning as well.
But to everyone who told me the death rate was going to be much lower in the end, faulty reasoning or not, it seems like maybe I was wrong and you told me so....
COVID Mortality Risk Was Nearly Nonexistent, New Study Finds
This study serves as yet another reminder of the stupidity of our ruling elites and their mouth-breathing devotion to listening to themselves, and only themselves.
Other than that, it's good to see some of the old crew still keeping things going here.
Maybe tarrifs would cover income tax, you know, if we had fewer expenses to cover with those tax dollars....like maybe saving 3M social security checks going out every month. If only they could find a way to do that.
baldwanus
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Parag Agrawal having PTSD right about now
Anabolic66
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Renew1
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ax1
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We need to axe socialism completely, perhaps we can rapidly phase it out from the youth and compensate those who paid into it but 0 socialism. I dont see that happening under Trump, he is after-all a socialist at heart but scaling back is better than nothing so fingers crossed.Tarrif revenue isn't nearly enough to cover the lost tax revenue. Just look at the total amount of imported goods compared to the current income tax base. The tarrif needed would be like 2000%
BUT, maybe combined with a nationwide flat tax on all sales, the combo could work.
Edit- total us imports = 3.86 trillion compared to Total tax revenue of 4.47 trillion
ax1
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Its really interesting times, some of the stuff going on Id never thought Id see in my lifetime although I do have my own concerns but its hard not to at least root for them and hope they succeed in many areas.
ax1
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Im sorry but as a Libertarian I would never vote for him and there are alot of concerning things about ruling with that much executive powers going into the future. I also am extremely intolerant of his big government foreign intervention, mind your own butt and worry about America, and not a penny more in military aid to Isreal, Ukraine or any other place. I can go on but I call everything as I see it.if even half of what's being said behind closed doors come true, I will expect your full apology to Trump in writing.
Elon says we're almost to the event horizon... chew on that for a min.
On top of it all, the Federal Government and Executive need to mind their own business and stay out of the states, and stay out of my State even if I agree with him, the intrusive consequences and over-reach of DC into states in inexcusable and will have ever lasting consequences State Rights have deteriorated and get worse over the next few years.
So while I call things as I see it, and root for decision he makes along with the people around him, I would never apologize for my decision not to vote for him, it would be completely disingenuous and I prefer to keep it real.
Ya'll good patriots in here, Trump loves his Country like him as a person actually, no beef or derangment syndrome here.
ax1
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Im sorry, Im not a socialist cant joint MAGA. There is your apology.
ax1
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Look, I can get over Trunmp's obsession being ruler of the Universe and big government socialist policies and compromise.
I have 2 important conditions to support Trump and be MAGA myself
1. Fully Pardon Edward Snowden, give him the Medal of Freedom
2. Not a penny of foreign Military aid financially, support, etc...of any kind to the Isreali Government or any other country which includes bringing all our troops home shutting down the overseas military industrial complex empire. No military aid, period. Lets mind our own freaking business.
Im a pretty freaking simple dude to understand.
Jiigzz
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Did you read the study? CFR was higher in the early stages but decreased over time. This is to be expected, and is documented in the study itself.So, it's been a minute. But back in 2020 there were many on here arguing that the kick downs were bogus, this was just government over reach and death rates were being exaggerated.
While I believed their reasoning was flawed (and still do) and I don't think I ever fully sided with the liberals either, I tried to take a cautious approach and treat it as a real danger...even if some things like mandating vaccines seemed illogical with faulty reasoning as well.
But to everyone who told me the death rate was going to be much lower in the end, faulty reasoning or not, it seems like maybe I was wrong and you told me so....
COVID Mortality Risk Was Nearly Nonexistent, New Study Finds
This study serves as yet another reminder of the stupidity of our ruling elites and their mouth-breathing devotion to listening to themselves, and only themselves.
Other than that, it's good to see some of the old crew still keeping things going here.
Maybe tarrifs would cover income tax, you know, if we had fewer expenses to cover with those tax dollars....like maybe saving 3M social security checks going out every month. If only they could find a way to do that.
Once Vaccination and Omicron came, the rates bottomed out. It's literally in the report.
That's like an armed gunman killing 30 people in a room of 1000, and people saying "it wasn't that bad!", despite the fact that the reason he didn't kill more was because the doors between rooms were reinforced and him being shot dead during the ordeal. Then after the fact, people argue that the doors were a waste of money because the gunman only killed 30 people.
Like would you feel more validated if more people died? Why would you wish that just to prove a point?
It also neglects to tell the stories of overworked health workers literally piling people up in the hallways giving life saving care, only for someone to piss on them later and say "more people should have died to justify the lockdowns".
It literally makes no sense.
That's what we call the preparation paradox.
"The preparedness paradox is the proposition that if a society or individual acts effectively to mitigate a potential disaster such as a pandemic, natural disaster or other catastrophe so that it causes less harm, the avoided danger will be perceived as having been much less serious because of the limited damage actually caused."
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BamBam54
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Lots to shake out of the covid saga, and as it evolved over time the data was always lagging (and the initial conclusions near worthless)
For example - the first year of covid some 400k died in the US (last year of trump). Then in the first year of Biden with maybe 70% of the country vaccinated, roughly the same number of people died.
Conclusions? Liberals will say the vaccine saved the death toll from being much worse. Conservatives will say the vaccine made zero difference. Vaccinated people still got covid and still spread covid. Liberals will say the vax made the illness less severe and prevented deaths. Conservatives will say that covid variants got less dangerous with each iteration, and THAT is why deaths rates went down.
Round and round and round.
My personal opinion is that the vax saved some deaths from covid and ADDED some deaths from heart failure... resulting in the same total number of deaths. Exactly like they found in the original Pfizer test study of 25,000 people!
For example - the first year of covid some 400k died in the US (last year of trump). Then in the first year of Biden with maybe 70% of the country vaccinated, roughly the same number of people died.
Conclusions? Liberals will say the vaccine saved the death toll from being much worse. Conservatives will say the vaccine made zero difference. Vaccinated people still got covid and still spread covid. Liberals will say the vax made the illness less severe and prevented deaths. Conservatives will say that covid variants got less dangerous with each iteration, and THAT is why deaths rates went down.
Round and round and round.
My personal opinion is that the vax saved some deaths from covid and ADDED some deaths from heart failure... resulting in the same total number of deaths. Exactly like they found in the original Pfizer test study of 25,000 people!
Tunaking14
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GTFO of here with that crap. New Zealand stole away what rights you had and you begged for even more gov't over sight. Covid numbers were overinflated and everyone knows it! The lockdowns were the biggest crime of all time and people like you fell for it hook, line and sinker.
ax1
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I was in a cranky zone for various reasons not you last night sorry if I was a bit of a dick. I will still debate all issues to hell when I have energy but last night you were just teasing and I should have gone with that.
Im hoping Trump does alot of good things for our Country and will root for him on issues
ax1
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Ok do over, here it goes, Im tearing my Libertarian voter ID right now and registering as a Republican with a red MAGA hat on by end of day.if even half of what's being said behind closed doors come true, I will expect your full apology to Trump in writing.
Elon says we're almost to the event horizon... chew on that for a min.
Dustin07
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Anyone who cites covid death tolls is wasting time. You'll never know the truth. The very first summer of COVID Washington admitted that at least 13-20% of those people registered as covid deaths probably died from other causes (car accidents and gunshot wounds were among them) but EVERYONE was registered as a covid death if they EVER tested positive for covid EVER.
And the PCR tests were unable to differentiate between COVID and other viruses. they only tested, poorly, for viral load. so if you ever had contact with any virus, you were chalked up as covid.
cancer, miscarriages and the death rate growth/year spiked after the vaccine came out. the death rate slowed in USA year one of the pandemic. when it was supposedly the worst.
Its mind blowing that people defend the vaccine/pharma/profiteering.
the real studies are all out there. the vaccine had no efficacy, you cannot ever ever prove it lowered symptoms (LOL!). it caused more harm than good, we all paid for it. natural immunity was always the answer, covid wasn't nearly as bad as they play it off to be, it was a psyop from day one. the same people who tell you how great the vaccine is/was also tell you the whole thing started because a guy ate a bat and don't think twice about Fauci' getting a pardon.
in my circle, only the vaccinated continue to get sick. my wife and I haven't been truly sick since like 2018. and yes that includes having covid. regardless of testing accuracy, I did lose taste for about 12 hours and smell for about a week. but I stayed active, took my vitamins and didn't stop working.
And the PCR tests were unable to differentiate between COVID and other viruses. they only tested, poorly, for viral load. so if you ever had contact with any virus, you were chalked up as covid.
cancer, miscarriages and the death rate growth/year spiked after the vaccine came out. the death rate slowed in USA year one of the pandemic. when it was supposedly the worst.
Its mind blowing that people defend the vaccine/pharma/profiteering.
the real studies are all out there. the vaccine had no efficacy, you cannot ever ever prove it lowered symptoms (LOL!). it caused more harm than good, we all paid for it. natural immunity was always the answer, covid wasn't nearly as bad as they play it off to be, it was a psyop from day one. the same people who tell you how great the vaccine is/was also tell you the whole thing started because a guy ate a bat and don't think twice about Fauci' getting a pardon.
in my circle, only the vaccinated continue to get sick. my wife and I haven't been truly sick since like 2018. and yes that includes having covid. regardless of testing accuracy, I did lose taste for about 12 hours and smell for about a week. but I stayed active, took my vitamins and didn't stop working.
Dustin07
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I watched people get blood clots, lifetime injuries, serious feminine injuries (like 18 months of non stop bleeding), strokes, spend weeks in the ICU, even comas just in my personal circle alone, from the vaccines. Those same people continued to get their boosters, hide from people like my wife and I for NOT being vaccinated, while we continued to live our very norma life unscathed for that half decade.
i don't wish ill upon anyone but these vaccines were not safe, not effective and are a crime against humanity (as is the release of the virus itself)
i don't wish ill upon anyone but these vaccines were not safe, not effective and are a crime against humanity (as is the release of the virus itself)
Jiigzz
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Regardless of what your beliefs are, the govt has a duty to all people, not just its voters or itself.
If the govt failed to act and the first wave had stuck around, you'd blame the govt for not doing enough. The goal wasn't to prevent all transmissions, the goal was to prevent stretching an already overstretched hospital system.
Hospitals were literally flooded with people on ventilators, BEGGING staff to save them.
It's a reality you probably didn't have the privilege of seeing, but that didn't make it any less real.
Jiigzz
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That's fair - the mandatory vaccines or lose your job were absolutely an overstretch. I also didn't agree with the extended lockdowns, particularly when the strains of COVID were less harmful. The problem here was that our hospital system was pushed to the brink, and I imagine that would have been the case in your bigger cities.
People were not taking any precautions and ending up in hospital, expecting to be helped, but they took no responsibility for preventing it in the first place
ax1
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By the time the vaccines came out the 1st and most dangerous wave passed, many of the weak died and many retained acquired natural immune antibodies, with the 2nd strain getting weaker anyways and so on not wonder why death rates dropped in which many deaths were fabricated to get Covid fundings shuttling into the medical industrial complex….. so I heard a rumor nobody trying to get sued in here lol
ax1
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They first and foremost have a duty to their corporate donors.
ax1
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Not in insight at all, I think I called pretty much every shot on the money as time was passing by in the very very Trump running for President thread lol
At least here I wasnt being censored, people including scientists and doctors were being shut out all over the internetz.
I love Sully great movie!!!
Jiigzz
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You know people who were members of this forum died to COVID right? It's disrespectful to discredit their loss simply because your experience was different.
Jiigzz
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I mean sure, but you would be making those judgements based on what you read, versus being at the hospitals treating patients.Not in insight at all, I think I called pretty much every shot on the money as time was passing by in the very very Trump running for President thread lol
At least here I wasnt being censored, people including scientists and doctors were being shut out all over the internetz.
I love Sully great movie!!!
It wasn't like the Black Plague where pretty much everyone died, but even when I got COVID I was so unwell I thought I was going to have to go to hospital as my breathing deteriorated and the indigestion I got was so bad, I couldn't get out of bed.
My partner caught it off me and she barely got sick.
BamBam54
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And still you both survived. Like 99.5% of everyone in the world.
We should not have locked down entire countries. You can guess it may have saved some lives, or not. Hard to tell since everyone got the virus anyway.
I strongly believe that the 6 trillion the US spent on covid, and the damage to young students locked out of school for 2 years, will be more destructive long term than the virus.
Jiigzz
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The PCR test could literally distinguish between COVID and the flu lol.
Symptoms between vaccinated and unvaccinated were reduced.
Comparison of COVID-19 Severity in Vaccinated and Unvaccinated Patients during the Delta and Omicron Wave of the Pandemic in a Romanian Tertiary Infectious Diseases Hospital - PMC
Romania has a poor uptake of COVID-19 vaccination in its population. The study objectives were to evaluate the differences between vaccinated and unvaccinated hospitalized COVID-19 patients with regard to disease severity, intensive care need, and ...
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Unvaccinated people in Romania required lengthy stays in hospital.
You still should have had freedom to choose though.
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ax1
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Common sense, knowing how the world works and corrupted medical industry. Our own government here in NY got caught covering up covid deaths with senior citizens at nursing homes which they were like, "hey lets put a deadly super infectious patients in with the weakest on the planet!!!!" Meanwhile the world would shyt on people like me for using the most basic common sense being like, WTF??? as that was announced.
Its crazy times, but this is what happens when anybody who opposes the official government narrative and they weaponize social media against their bottom line$.