Donald Trump running for president
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thebigt
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watching the sunday morning news shows--they aren't talking about what a great speech biden made and how well he represented the US, instead they are walking back biden's dumbass remarks like sayin putin needs to be removed from power and that if russia uses chemical weapons we would react in kind---they are walking back dumbass biden's remarks not only here in the US but worldwide---biden is not only a nation wide disaster he is world wide.
thebigt
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GAS REBATE CHECKS
dems pushing for stimulus checks to pay for high gas prices.....if the dumbasses would go back to trump policies we would have plenty of low cost gas....when the government prints more money inflation goes up---geez!!!
the day biden was inaugurated average gas price was $2.39
dems might argue that biden is not 100% responsible for all the problems...i say biden is 100% responsible for FIXING the problems this is the job he signed up for...c'mon man
dems pushing for stimulus checks to pay for high gas prices.....if the dumbasses would go back to trump policies we would have plenty of low cost gas....when the government prints more money inflation goes up---geez!!!
the day biden was inaugurated average gas price was $2.39
dems might argue that biden is not 100% responsible for all the problems...i say biden is 100% responsible for FIXING the problems this is the job he signed up for...c'mon man
xR1pp3Rx
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did any of you catch that blip on fax news about the voter fraud?
I want to be perfectly clear, I do not watch ANY mainstream news any more. not even tucker carlson who is admitted pretty good at journalism. anyhow, they aired a 30 second clips where they displayed some leaked texted between one of trumps lawyers and minority whip.
basically the texts read ( and this was on FOX mind you):
paraphrasing here... "there were 12 BG states, that were all included in a massive voter fraud sting operation. this operation placed water marked ballots in all 12 states. they caught massive wide spread fraud and anyone involved is being arrested, being placed on and sitting in barges off the island of gitmo awaiting military tribunals for sedition and treason"
why would they play that on national TV ??
personally i had given up on anything happening over the election steal, but this would be awesome if it held and weight.
I want to be perfectly clear, I do not watch ANY mainstream news any more. not even tucker carlson who is admitted pretty good at journalism. anyhow, they aired a 30 second clips where they displayed some leaked texted between one of trumps lawyers and minority whip.
basically the texts read ( and this was on FOX mind you):
paraphrasing here... "there were 12 BG states, that were all included in a massive voter fraud sting operation. this operation placed water marked ballots in all 12 states. they caught massive wide spread fraud and anyone involved is being arrested, being placed on and sitting in barges off the island of gitmo awaiting military tribunals for sedition and treason"
why would they play that on national TV ??
personally i had given up on anything happening over the election steal, but this would be awesome if it held and weight.
BamBam54
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Doesn't sound believable. Even the actual terrorists held at Gitmo havent been able to get their military tribunals completed.
Those texts you saw mentioned on Fox news were from Ginni Thomas who was basically forwarding crazy conspiracy theories she heard, and probably believed... but that doesn't make any of them factual or true.
Some basic background to this story here... but I haven't gone further to fact check the fact chekers.
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xR1pp3Rx
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soo...
thanks for your input. but seriously??????? you once again come to make a point and use commonly "known to be fake news" outlets for your argument. not sure if you read the article in full or not, but you literally used an article that sites references from ALL MSM. it repeatedly states there is no proof of fraud etc... blah blah blah.. NBC CNN SNOPES>>> its all BS!! the proof to date is GIANT and is literally why Wisconsin is trying to decertify their electors. I'm sure you don't believe that but its happening, not to mention all the fraud proven in the other BG states etc. everyone knows joe is only the "resident"
again I'm not arguing I am right here, that what the texts claim its true, but for you to try clear yourself by saying I didn't fact check the fact checkers...
pro tip: fact checking is not real.
BamBam54
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soo...
thanks for your input. but seriously??????? you once again come to make a point and use commonly "known to be fake news" outlets for your argument. not sure if you read the article in full or not, but you literally used an article that sites references from ALL MSM. it repeatedly states there is no proof of fraud etc... blah blah blah.. NBC CNN SNOPES>>> its all BS!! the proof to date is GIANT and is literally why Wisconsin is trying to decertify their electors. I'm sure you don't believe that but its happening, not to mention all the fraud proven in the other BG states etc. everyone knows joe is only the "resident"
again I'm not arguing I am right here, that what the texts claim its true, but for you to try clear yourself by saying I didn't fact check the fact checkers...
pro tip: fact checking is not real.
I am totally on board with the idea that the election was stolen, by big tech and ballot harvesting and rule changes made to exploit the covid scare. State by battle ground state. Deliberate and orchestrated.
But that doesn't mean people were caught with a secret watermark ballot now on barges for military tribunals at gitmo. THAT part is batshit crazy.
Or that the Vatican had spy satellites changing ballots through Dominion servers that US special forces captured in Germany. Remember that Qanon story??? #italygate LOL
The so-called fact check is right about some stuff, and misleading about other stuff. I thought it was pretty clear I didn't take the so-called fact check as total gospel. It was merely provided to show where the text you saw on Fox came from, and why you probably shouldn't get all excited about it as if the Qanon story about gitmo tribunals was actually coming true anytime soon....
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xR1pp3Rx
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like I said I appreciate the attempt and debate of topic, but I just cant take it seriously if anything is coming from the narrative infested MSM.
those outlets have taught many of us to take the narrative and believe the exact opposite to be the actual truth. Its not my fault they have ruined literally every ounce of trust I have.
those outlets have taught many of us to take the narrative and believe the exact opposite to be the actual truth. Its not my fault they have ruined literally every ounce of trust I have.
BamBam54
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The Politifact link I provided was handy to at least see the exact wording of 4 texts from Ginni Thomas that made the news.... and you shouldn't be so quick to dismiss the fact-checkers based on their prior fake news and deliberate bias. In this case, or every case,, look at the actual facts claimed and checked.
1) What Thomas wrote:
"Watermarked ballots in over 12 states have been part of a huge Trump & military white hat sting operation in 12 key battleground states."
Do you really believe that? A year and a half later how could anyone possibly be thinking there was ever a successful sting operation with watermarked ballots.... by Trump and the vaguely mysterious "white hats"... that Trump wasn't pumping on every talk show 24/7. Don't you think Trump himself might have mentioned a successful sting operation he was in on??? Sheeesh! Ginni Thomas might have believed it back when she texted it, but it was goofy then and a hundred times more embarrassing to hear now. Poor Clarence.
2) What Thomas wrote:
"Biden crime family & ballot fraud co-conspirators (elected officials, bureaucrats, social media censorship mongers, fake stream media reporters, etc) are being arrested & detained for ballot fraud right now & over coming days, & will be living in barges off GITMO to face military tribunals for sedition."
Pretty easy to prove this text was total crap. No matter how corrupt the 'Biden crime family' appears to be, its easy to see they were never arrested, detained, or on barges heading to Gitmo. I dare say NO ONE was sent to barges/gitmo for their role in the 2020 election. Total bullsh1t. Maybe Ginni didn't know she was duped/conned back when she wrote it. But is there ANYONE on the planet who doesn't know now that none of this came true????? Its pretty sad you got so excited about these texts being mentioned on the news today as if they might be true and that you really wished/believed them all along. NOTE - the texts were only on the news today to mock Ginni Thomas for being a kooky-right-wing conspiracy nut. Poor Clarence.
3) What Thomas wrote:
"The majority knows Biden and the Left is attempting the greatest Heist of our History."
Now this much I believe. And the statement as written is really more of a personal opinion. Some 75 million people voted for Trump and I would guess that 50 million of them think the election was stolen in one way or another. Its crap that these fact-checkers dismiss it automatically. I think a proper court case with real evidence and witnesses presented could really make a strong case. But it hasn't happened yet, or maybe ever. We know for a fact that at least two people were arrested in Texas for ballot harvesting hundreds of votes (democratic operatives conning nursing home people). The media says its just an isolated case and wasn't enough to change the outcome. Unless there were more examples not caught, which is often the case in every crime. And now Georgia is looking into a report of organized ballot harvesting using drop boxes in the middle of the night. Claims of thousands of illegal votes paid for, with cell phone and video data to corroborate the claims. THAT is the most interesting evidence being investigated yet. Arizona had detailed claims made too, but was never followed up for indisputable legal proof. Basically my point is this.... as long as we waste time with dopey Qanon conspiracies like watermarked gitmo barges, vatican spy satellites, and even Dominion servers... we are missing what seems to be real old school ballot box stuffing and duplicate voting more easily proved. And the idiots in charge keep recounting the same paper ballots over and over, rather than checking signatures, interviewing voters, and investigating claims of false addresses and voting in multiple states, etc. Put the Kraken back in the box, and do some old school P.I. work !!
4) What Thomas said:
"Sounds like Sidney and her team are getting inundated with evidence of fraud. Make a plan. Release the Kraken and save us from the left taking America down."
Speaking of the Kraken, if you follow this story its turning out to be a huge embarrassment. Dominion is now suing people like Sidney Powell and Guiliani for defamation and a billion dollars. And so far, the defense offered by Powell's attorneys is that "no reasonable person" would conclude that her claims were statements of fact. Meaning what she said was so ridiculous that no grown adult should have ever believed her. Wow. It is still heading to trial, and I will be watching to see how it all turns out. But so far it seems like a colossal waste of time that distracted Trump and his legal team from ever proving a much more obvious ballot stuffing and common voter fraud argument. So yeah, because of wasting time chasing all these dopey Qanon conspiracy theories, this mumbling bumbling Biden really is the President. Uggggh.
1) What Thomas wrote:
"Watermarked ballots in over 12 states have been part of a huge Trump & military white hat sting operation in 12 key battleground states."
Do you really believe that? A year and a half later how could anyone possibly be thinking there was ever a successful sting operation with watermarked ballots.... by Trump and the vaguely mysterious "white hats"... that Trump wasn't pumping on every talk show 24/7. Don't you think Trump himself might have mentioned a successful sting operation he was in on??? Sheeesh! Ginni Thomas might have believed it back when she texted it, but it was goofy then and a hundred times more embarrassing to hear now. Poor Clarence.
2) What Thomas wrote:
"Biden crime family & ballot fraud co-conspirators (elected officials, bureaucrats, social media censorship mongers, fake stream media reporters, etc) are being arrested & detained for ballot fraud right now & over coming days, & will be living in barges off GITMO to face military tribunals for sedition."
Pretty easy to prove this text was total crap. No matter how corrupt the 'Biden crime family' appears to be, its easy to see they were never arrested, detained, or on barges heading to Gitmo. I dare say NO ONE was sent to barges/gitmo for their role in the 2020 election. Total bullsh1t. Maybe Ginni didn't know she was duped/conned back when she wrote it. But is there ANYONE on the planet who doesn't know now that none of this came true????? Its pretty sad you got so excited about these texts being mentioned on the news today as if they might be true and that you really wished/believed them all along. NOTE - the texts were only on the news today to mock Ginni Thomas for being a kooky-right-wing conspiracy nut. Poor Clarence.
3) What Thomas wrote:
"The majority knows Biden and the Left is attempting the greatest Heist of our History."
Now this much I believe. And the statement as written is really more of a personal opinion. Some 75 million people voted for Trump and I would guess that 50 million of them think the election was stolen in one way or another. Its crap that these fact-checkers dismiss it automatically. I think a proper court case with real evidence and witnesses presented could really make a strong case. But it hasn't happened yet, or maybe ever. We know for a fact that at least two people were arrested in Texas for ballot harvesting hundreds of votes (democratic operatives conning nursing home people). The media says its just an isolated case and wasn't enough to change the outcome. Unless there were more examples not caught, which is often the case in every crime. And now Georgia is looking into a report of organized ballot harvesting using drop boxes in the middle of the night. Claims of thousands of illegal votes paid for, with cell phone and video data to corroborate the claims. THAT is the most interesting evidence being investigated yet. Arizona had detailed claims made too, but was never followed up for indisputable legal proof. Basically my point is this.... as long as we waste time with dopey Qanon conspiracies like watermarked gitmo barges, vatican spy satellites, and even Dominion servers... we are missing what seems to be real old school ballot box stuffing and duplicate voting more easily proved. And the idiots in charge keep recounting the same paper ballots over and over, rather than checking signatures, interviewing voters, and investigating claims of false addresses and voting in multiple states, etc. Put the Kraken back in the box, and do some old school P.I. work !!
4) What Thomas said:
"Sounds like Sidney and her team are getting inundated with evidence of fraud. Make a plan. Release the Kraken and save us from the left taking America down."
Speaking of the Kraken, if you follow this story its turning out to be a huge embarrassment. Dominion is now suing people like Sidney Powell and Guiliani for defamation and a billion dollars. And so far, the defense offered by Powell's attorneys is that "no reasonable person" would conclude that her claims were statements of fact. Meaning what she said was so ridiculous that no grown adult should have ever believed her. Wow. It is still heading to trial, and I will be watching to see how it all turns out. But so far it seems like a colossal waste of time that distracted Trump and his legal team from ever proving a much more obvious ballot stuffing and common voter fraud argument. So yeah, because of wasting time chasing all these dopey Qanon conspiracy theories, this mumbling bumbling Biden really is the President. Uggggh.
thebigt
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i am a republican who voted for trump...i will seek out any info that is pro-republican and anti-democrat, since i firmly believe i am on the 'RIGHT' side of things...i am sure many democrats/liberals feel the same way about info that promotes their side.
fortunately independents are who actually decide elections and they are leaning towards the republican/conservatives....of course if they send mail-in ballots to every house all bets are off---i can't believe that democrats say that requiring ID is a hardship for minorities, this makes zero sense to me!!!
fortunately independents are who actually decide elections and they are leaning towards the republican/conservatives....of course if they send mail-in ballots to every house all bets are off---i can't believe that democrats say that requiring ID is a hardship for minorities, this makes zero sense to me!!!
thebigt
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fake news...
ratings have been in the toilet, i see this as a stunt to draw attention to a event no one even knew or cared was happening....i call B.S....actually i still don't care--hollywood can fuckoff.
THOR 70
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I think it was staged
Beau
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Well, at least in the case, they would REALLY have to go out on a limb to call whatever happened between Rock and Smith "racist". That must be infuriating to the White House.
Based on the US systemic racism, Chris Rock is worth approximately $60M, and Will (The Fresh Price) Smith's net worth is estimated at $350M.
If only they hadn't been held back by the man ....
Based on the US systemic racism, Chris Rock is worth approximately $60M, and Will (The Fresh Price) Smith's net worth is estimated at $350M.
If only they hadn't been held back by the man ....
thebigt
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absolutely it was staged...if that would not have happened most of us wouldn't even know there was some stupid award show last night.
ax1
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I’m actually with you in this one, makes no sense for Will to taint his career like that.
BamBam54
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ax1
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That gun looks great!!!! Ill look that up. Thats one of the reasons I went with the Glock, if I get bored there are plenty of upgrades.
I got the gen 5 19 "MOS" edition that has the cut and plates for optics.
I have some waiting to do before I get it here in NY, but I cant wait!
BamBam54
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Good call on the MOS edition. A small red dot (around 4 MOA) is an easy add that will benefit both speed and accuracy.
The absolute best dot sight is a Trijicon RMR but they are very expensive. The last one I bought was a crimson trace CTS-1550 from Amazon (bargain priced) to replace a similar Optima/JP that lasted 10 years!
ax1
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Good call on the MOS edition. A small red dot (around 4 MOA) is an easy add that will benefit both speed and accuracy.
The absolute best dot sight is a Trijicon RMR but they are very expensive. The last one I bought was a crimson trace CTS-1550 from Amazon (bargain priced) to replace a similar Optima/JP that lasted 10 years!
Thanks for the tips, Iook them up and add the to my watchlist. Im going to go iron for just a little while and get decent at it, then add a red dot. I think I can get lifters for the irons so I can use them through the red dot in case of failure.
ax1
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Its possible, I mean I have no proof otherwise, but my gut just thinks it was unplanned on this one.
thebigt
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lol...how many people would be talking about the oscars if this had not happened???...there is a old hollywood saying--'there is no BAD publicity'...this stupid slap knocked a frigging war off the front page and distracted from real problems...this was about as unplanned as juicy smollett.
this is all i'm going to say about it,not going to play into this propaganda.
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BamBam54
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And STILL the states can't see to get their voters rolls cleaned up. We don't have free and fair elections if dead people or duplicate voters still exist in any number.
North Carolina Voter Rolls Rife with Deceased, Duplicate Registrations After 2020 Election Invalid Link Removed
North Carolina Voter Rolls Rife with Deceased, Duplicate Registrations After 2020 Election Invalid Link Removed
ax1
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Now thats ^^^^ whats up !!!!
thebigt
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teachers discussing sex with 6 year olds is perverted....there is no possible reason/excuse that could be made to rationalize adults other than parents talking about sex with children this age....thank GOD that all of my grandchildren are being home schooled!!!!
fuckdemocrats
fuckjoebiden
fuckpublicschools
fuckacademyawards
fuckdisney
fuckfauci
with that said, had a great 5 mile run this morning and feeling really great today--FAMILY 1st...hope everyone is having as good a day as i am
Power-Lift
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we had basically the best economy in history under Trump, energy independent, and whiny libturdz still found a way to cry, scream and ruin it. Pervy Joe the pant-shitter ruined it all with the swipe of his pen on day 1, and its been one miserable failure after another. In my 55 yrs I've never seen things so bad, so fukked. Libtards are poison, they dont know gender, they make up fake racism, they hate, they attack, they cry, scream and whine. You own this mess libtards. I notice most on other forums went quiet. How does one brag about this mess we're in?? One guy called me a Trumptard, I said "thanks for the compliment" Supporter of the greatest America ever?? Ok, Ill take it. I said "Libtard, tell me, what good has Pant-Shitter done, name one thing"? He couldnt (the dumb kvnt). Fucking clowns...
thebigt
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[they] should have never let biden leave the country and go to europe--it was bad enough that Americans knew he was suffering from mental illness now the whole world is aware that the USA is being lead by a guy who is clearly suffering from mental illness....imo, the only thing preventing 25th amendment is kamala harris--and if harris were to be installed as president this would give up her deciding vote in senate and democrats would not have enough votes to get a new VP nominee approved.
Beau
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As an ex-Disney employee (late 70s/early 80s) and having grown up in Anaheim (and feeling an affinity for Walt Disney and being proud of Disneyland), I am embarrassed by what they have turned into. Walt would turn over in his grave. I have no intention of giving them another dime.
thebigt
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yes, all my kids were raised on disney and grandkids too...but if i had to do it over today-fuckdisney!!!
ax1
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Just a reminder, no one should take this post as if I am "anti-military" which I am absolutely not and never will be.
So............As I always say, at his core Groper Joe at the end of the day is deep state Military Industrial Complex and there isnt a war he hasnt drooled to vote for.
Defense budget for 2023 is now going up, and he is using Russia as justification to steal more of our taxes and prop up his lobby buddies and defense contracts which he has so for half a century.
Interestingly for you Dumper's on here (anti-Dump I am, always will be but not in a Libtard way
) Ill give you this to laugh at, That pedophile in the white house fell in love with Space Force and wants to add $5 billion more than what congress previously enacted.
From spacenews.com
“Space is vital to U.S. national security and integral to modern warfare,” the White House said in a budget Invalid Link Removed document. “The budget maintains America’s advantage by improving the resilience of U.S. space architectures to bolster deterrence and increase survivability during hostilities.”
Air Force Secretary Frank Kendall said the anti-satellite capabilities of adversaries like Russia and China require DoD to invest in advanced space systems. “This budget is driven by the threat,” he told reporters.
Breakdown of the Space Force’s $24.5 billion budget:
So............As I always say, at his core Groper Joe at the end of the day is deep state Military Industrial Complex and there isnt a war he hasnt drooled to vote for.
Defense budget for 2023 is now going up, and he is using Russia as justification to steal more of our taxes and prop up his lobby buddies and defense contracts which he has so for half a century.
Interestingly for you Dumper's on here (anti-Dump I am, always will be but not in a Libtard way
) Ill give you this to laugh at, That pedophile in the white house fell in love with Space Force and wants to add $5 billion more than what congress previously enacted.From spacenews.com
“Space is vital to U.S. national security and integral to modern warfare,” the White House said in a budget Invalid Link Removed document. “The budget maintains America’s advantage by improving the resilience of U.S. space architectures to bolster deterrence and increase survivability during hostilities.”
Air Force Secretary Frank Kendall said the anti-satellite capabilities of adversaries like Russia and China require DoD to invest in advanced space systems. “This budget is driven by the threat,” he told reporters.
Breakdown of the Space Force’s $24.5 billion budget:
- $3.6 billion for procurement of satellites and launch services
- $4 billion for operations and maintenance (this includes 4.6% pay raise for civilian personnel)
- $15.8 billion for research development and testing
- $1 billion for personnel costs for 8,600 active-duty guardians
thebigt
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military industrial complex has just become another way of saying we will pad defense spending to hide the money we want to spend on pork, kickbacks and other things the government wants to hide from us......Just a reminder, no one should take this post as if I am "anti-military" which I am absolutely not and never will be.
So............As I always say, at his core Groper Joe at the end of the day is deep state Military Industrial Complex and there isnt a war he hasnt drooled to vote for.
Defense budget for 2023 is now going up, and he is using Russia as justification to steal more of our taxes and prop up his lobby buddies and defense contracts which he has so for half a century.
Interestingly for you Dumper's on here (anti-Dump I am, always will be but not in a Libtard way
From spacenews.com
“Space is vital to U.S. national security and integral to modern warfare,” the White House said in a budget Invalid Link Removed document. “The budget maintains America’s advantage by improving the resilience of U.S. space architectures to bolster deterrence and increase survivability during hostilities.”
Air Force Secretary Frank Kendall said the anti-satellite capabilities of adversaries like Russia and China require DoD to invest in advanced space systems. “This budget is driven by the threat,” he told reporters.
Breakdown of the Space Force’s $24.5 billion budget:
Invalid Link Removed
- $3.6 billion for procurement of satellites and launch services
- $4 billion for operations and maintenance (this includes 4.6% pay raise for civilian personnel)
- $15.8 billion for research development and testing
- $1 billion for personnel costs for 8,600 active-duty guardians
guys like you calling trump supporters names is just playing into the governments hands hands of keeping us pissed off at each other....whatever good points you might make are not going to be accepted by democrats and after you piss off republicans you have lost any good you might have accomplished.