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What most people don’t know about Afghanistan is that those mountains are holding trillions of dollars of Lithium and other rare earth elements. More importantly than value is these materials are needed for next generation war tech. If it wasn’t for that, poppy and several other reasons the US would have never invaded Afghanistan. It definitely had nothing to do with their people’s “freedom” although that is a positive aspect of it to an extent.
I predict China being there before you know it contracting with the Taliban and the US doing free trade with the Taliban as well. Give it 20 years you will see.
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Today was an interesting day at work! Currently 10 positive patients, 2 vaccinated and 8 unvaccinated. 2 of the unvaccinated are a married couple in their early 70’s. She didn’t believe in/trust the vaccine and he didn’t believe in the China virus period. They are both thin and have no prior medical history, so it’s especially interesting that they are both requiring the same amount of high flow oxygen at 50% and are following very similar courses.
The wife has since demanded that she receives a vaccine as soon as she is eligible, and the husband signed papers to begin an experimental (EUA) medication that only 100 people in the nation have received for China virus purposes called Baricitinib. It’s being offered in place of Tocilizumab (which the wife received) as we are currently out of that. It’s amazing how people can change their outlook as well as what they are willing to take when the tables have turned on them.
Meanwhile over in the ICU, we had an unvaccinated 60 year old man withdrawn from life support with the daughter at his side that gave him the virus. He was one of a few we are seeing more often that fail outpatient therapy with Ivermectin. The family was holding on to him for days, but he coded twice this morning which finally made them realize it was time.
More fun tomorrow!
The wife has since demanded that she receives a vaccine as soon as she is eligible, and the husband signed papers to begin an experimental (EUA) medication that only 100 people in the nation have received for China virus purposes called Baricitinib. It’s being offered in place of Tocilizumab (which the wife received) as we are currently out of that. It’s amazing how people can change their outlook as well as what they are willing to take when the tables have turned on them.
Meanwhile over in the ICU, we had an unvaccinated 60 year old man withdrawn from life support with the daughter at his side that gave him the virus. He was one of a few we are seeing more often that fail outpatient therapy with Ivermectin. The family was holding on to him for days, but he coded twice this morning which finally made them realize it was time.
More fun tomorrow!
THOR 70
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I really appreciate your input as it’s interesting with you being on the front lines. Also super curious if you could keep a rough running total of vaxxed vs in vaxxed? This is valuable. Cause everything I’m hearing from other physicians is that it’s like 99% unvaccinated people in hospital.
I have to note that it really proves nothing that someone suffering is willing to try anything to ease their suffering. It’s actually strange that the vaccine is even a discussion point for her as someone should inform her it’s too late for that and that it can be discussed a lot later. All it proves is that desperate people are desperate.
Will you keep me posted how the baricitanib works? I’m familiar with its MOA but haven’t heard of it being used for covid. The physicians must have seen data or just figure it’s immune modulating properties could be enough to keep cytokines under control.
Cheers.
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that's a tad over-dramatic...not doubting you might be getting a lot of covid cases where you are-but here where i am people are going about their lives and covid rarely even gets talked about...the hospitals here aren't any more busy than they were pre-covid.
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the biden administration moved in june to dismantle a system designed to protect American citizens trapped abroad--just months before the taliban took over afghanistan stranding thousands of Americans---
this is front page on fox website and i know some mistrust fox, but if this is true it's on the same level as hillary refusing to send in rescue team for embassy and ambassador in benghazi, imo.
this is front page on fox website and i know some mistrust fox, but if this is true it's on the same level as hillary refusing to send in rescue team for embassy and ambassador in benghazi, imo.
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sammpedd88
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Controlling your borders…..that’s an interesting concept. I wonder why the Biden administration hasn’t thought of that? Lol
BamBam54
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@Ricky10 - your hospital uses Ivermectin in treatment? That veterinary worm medicine sounded like a kooky right wing thing, but it's legit and effective?? Good to know!
What about any of the earlier medicine being we all heard about... what is the latest with Regeneron, or Remdesivir, or HCQ?
Sounds like your hospital is counting who is vaccinated or not, but are they tracking any current cases to see if they had prior covid (natural antibodies)?? That 3rd group is missing from all the stats, and it's conspicuous by its absence....
What about any of the earlier medicine being we all heard about... what is the latest with Regeneron, or Remdesivir, or HCQ?
Sounds like your hospital is counting who is vaccinated or not, but are they tracking any current cases to see if they had prior covid (natural antibodies)?? That 3rd group is missing from all the stats, and it's conspicuous by its absence....
THOR 70
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Excellent point! I hate how we are just disregarding innate immune response. It’s all vaccine or nothing!
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got another emial from VA..the header was post offocie is hiring 100,000 - then in blue highlight was a link ....''TELL US WHY YOU DIDN'T GET A COVID-19 VACCINATION'...i think i am going tp stop opening those emails!!!!
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is it just me or does anyone else think it might have been a good idea to get all Americans out before withdrawing?
if taiban takes American prisoners....nah, i don't even want to go there...i was in the gulf when the iran hostage fisaco went down, i pray this country never has to go thru that again.
i also remember benahazi--i hope hillary remembers also!!!
if taiban takes American prisoners....nah, i don't even want to go there...i was in the gulf when the iran hostage fisaco went down, i pray this country never has to go thru that again.
i also remember benahazi--i hope hillary remembers also!!!
Ricky10
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Yeah, obviously I know your stance with the vaccine, and I respect that. What’s happening in real life is…well, real life. So that’s why I like to share at times. My hospital is relatively small, but I do like looking at the data! Yes, I think it’s “officially” reported that only 2-4% of COVID admissions are vaccinated, which is definitely lower than what I have seen over the past few months. I would say closer to 10-30% are vaccinated. The vaccinated have had better outcomes so far though generally speaking.
So today we have 13 total patients, with 2 being vaccinated. Only 1 patient on a ventilator who is a 45 years old, unvaccinated, and only medical history is diabetes, and he’s not fat! Just got intubated this morning.
Yeah, the baricitanib is mainly used for rheumatoid arthritis, so it is ultimately intended to inhibit the cytokine storm in this case. There is data out there, but literally the only reason they used it was because we are out of tocilizumab.
That woman who now wants the vaccine is a PIA! She spends way too much time wondering why she got such severe symptoms, stresses about every little thing and overanalyzes it. Spends way too much time trying to be her own physician. I had a heart to heart with her and told her she needs to stop stressing out, and leave it to us to make her better. It’s not going to help anything for you to be so wound up, and we can’t always give you answers about your course because it’s individual and we are all still learning about it
Our ED is 75% filled with admitted patients on most days, and they have to wait up to 2 days for a hospital room. People on stretchers in the halls etc. Doesn’t leave much room for emergent care. Whenever we try to transfer a critically ill patient to a larger facility to receive ECMO in state or in Massachusetts, they are denied due to lack of beds. So it certainly isn’t great, and it’s not a good sign for the next few months. I hope things don’t get as bad as last fall/winter!!
I will get back to you, it’s time to give report on my patients and GTFOH!
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the local hospital near my house has a digital sign by the road that i can see when passing by that posts ER WAITING TIME-it rarely and i mean very rarely is over 15 minutes....in the last week the county i live in has had 7 new cases in a county of 122,000 people---here where i live people are just going about their business, and covid is hardly ever even talked about.
your reality is your reality....my reality is my reality....for me, the only time i ever talk about covid is on this forum, and fortunately here in small town indiana my grandkids won't be forced to be vaxxed or wear masks!!!
sammpedd88
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Should never be forgotten…..but Hillary and her followers will do everything to suppress the memory of it.
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imagine if diben would have had the sense to get all Americans out BEFORE withdrawing troops...
the radio station i have on at night gives very liberal news--and even on this liberal radio station when i woke up this morning they were saying that European leaders and NATO were criticizing dibens handling of troop withdrawal...i thought i was going to stroke out hearing ANY criticism of diben on liberal radio news----DANG!!!!
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anyone see the video of taliban opening fire on protesters waving afghan national flag....at least here we have weapons to fire back---i heard the 1st thing taliban did was ask the afghan people to turn over weapons--hopefully the afghan people have some weapons stashed away!!!
1st amendment forever!!!!
1st amendment forever!!!!
sammpedd88
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I’ve heard through some friends that the Brits are going out and trying to rescue any non-Afghans. They’re pissed that our government won’t let our troops leave the airport. When the liberal news bashes Diben then you know it’s bad!!
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liberal radio station bashing diben damned near stroked me out!!!
Ricky10
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No, we do not use Ivermectin in the hospital. It appears as though some have been prescribed it by their PCP though at symptom onset as outpatient therapy. Last I knew, that was only an option for people in specific states. One of them being mine, but insurance can still be an issue. Probably why we hear about a great deal of people getting the horse version. I have seen at least 3 people taking it as of late that still ended up in the hospital- per their H&P and discussions I have overheard between patient and pulmonologist. The 60 year old that died yesterday was one of them. That’s not to say that I don’t think it may be valuable though and has quite possibly helped many people. I know that encouraging studies exist.
Monoclonal antibodies like Regeneron are also not used for inpatients that I am aware of. It has to be initiated early from time of symptom onset (less than 10 days) and/or before things progress too far and you become too symptomatic and have mounted your own immune response. So it’s really considered an outpatient therapy. Remdesivir, Dexamethasone, and Tocilizumab as appropriate is the standard therapy. We have not used HDQ since the beginning of the pandemic. It really wasn’t making any tangible difference in patients hospital clinical course and was causing people to go into V-tach.
My hospital is not particularly counting vaccinated patients. It‘s just that the vaccine record shows up right away when you open up the patient‘s electronic chart. I can click once more and see exactly what China virus vaccine they got and when. As well as every vaccine they have ever received. I‘m just interested in tracking the admissions and vaccination status because I find it to be interesting and valuable information.
No, we don’t do any testing for antibodies, but we certainly are well aware when/if people have had a prior positive test at any point since the beginning of the pandemic.
Ricky10
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It certainly pays off to live in small towns these days. That’s definitely a huge reason why everyone is moving out of the major cities. Even more so democratic run cities of course. Problem is, small cities and towns aren’t going to be so small anymore. They are just turning in to bigger small towns and bigger small cities. That is definitely happening here in Maine…big time! Probably another reason our hospitals are beyond capacity in general. We have had a great deal of tourists blessing us with China virus admissions.
The 70 year old couple I was mentioning prior is from out of state, and the wife seems to have us on a timetable to get them home because they have “things to do.” I’m like lady, the only thing you should be focused on is getting better (if she does). This woman is definitely touched.
Sounds like the hospital by you is really quite small? Many of those small hospitals export their positive patients to larger facilities, which frees them up for routine care. If not, sounds like y’all have got some room at the Inn! We will have to send you a few to play with.
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when diben was elected he was greeted by european leaders and nato like the 2nd coming of sliced bread....
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i live on the outskirts of a small town of 64,000 we actually have 2 hospitals but one is more for surgeries and out patient clinics.
the problem i see is the mayor and city council are trying to draw more people in to expand their budget...but the good thing is not a lot of people are leaving and very rarely see houses for sale--and the high cost of lumber has really had a effect on new builds, time was when young people here were flocking to big cities now they are staying close to home....out where i live in the sticks most of us live off the main roads and if a vehicle we don't recognize comes thru it gets the eyeball pretty good....i have a 3 mile dirt road from main road to my house, and several signs posted that say--DUE TO HIGH COST AND SHORTAGE OF AMMO NO WARNING SHOTS WILL BE FIRED.
i've got a large pond for fishing and 6 acres of woods to hunt, i'm living the dream!!!
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My town is only 8,500 people, but it’s also only 13 square miles and it’s right on the coast. It’s regarded as one of the most desirable towns in the state to live in, and we have the best public school system in the state. Actually it’s highly regarded nationally as well. It’s definitely that small New England town white boy (and girl) neighborhood vibe that you would picture. It’s a great town to raise kids- yet I don’t have any
Wow, a 3 mile dirt road….that sounds fun in the winter!
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nah, i've got a 4 wheel drive truck and if i get hung up really bad just walk home and wait for thaw or call a neighbor with a tractor to pull me out...spring is usually worse when we get lots of rain and it gets flooded--but we stay well stocked up and if need be we could be self sufficient for a month easily, more if need be without ever going into town.My town is only 8,500 people, but it’s also only 13 square miles and it’s right on the coast. It’s regarded as one of the most desirable towns in the state to live in, and we have the best public school system in the state. Actually it’s highly regarded nationally as well. It’s definitely that small New England town white boy (and girl) neighborhood vibe that you would picture. It’s a great town to raise kids- yet I don’t have any
Wow, a 3 mile dirt road….that sounds fun in the winter!
surprised you would have so many covid hospitalizations in such a tiny town--sounds like your little town has more hospitalizations than my entire county has cases????
Ricky10
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Oh no, I don’t even work in the same county that I live in. York county is where the hospital is that I work- which has a population of 207,500.
My home county is 295,000 people, is the most densely populated, and entails our largest city and hospital in the state. I worked there for a year but it was too impersonal for me so I drive further to work at a hospital I like more. Of course that‘s all relative to pre-COVID. Still, people are dropping like flies there more than at my hospital, so we recently gained a few people who left to come work with us. Now we are waiting to see the next hit to all medical staff in the state due to the vaccine mandate.
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internal state department cable warned blinken of pending afghan collapse---officials at the US embassy in kabul sent the memo through the department's confidential dissent channel....
you mean like the cable ambassador stevens sent to hillary telling her the benghazi embassy was in danger?
you mean like the cable ambassador stevens sent to hillary telling her the benghazi embassy was in danger?
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Ricky10
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Add it to the list of the latest unspeakably diqusting acts of the Biden administration. We haven’t even gone a year yet. How is 4 even possible?
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people had to know that diben at the very least had diminished capacity and yet they voted for him anyways---probably the offspring of the people who spit on American soldiers returning from viet nam!!!
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bank of America, lowe's sponsored CRT training urging white's to cede power to people of color, lol---fuckthisbunchoffuckingbullshit!!!!
i already tore up my american express card--now i aint buying a damned thing from lowe's, and i've spent a lot of money there!!!
just found out that united way is behind this nonsense---guess who's stocking santa will be putting coal in this year?
i already tore up my american express card--now i aint buying a damned thing from lowe's, and i've spent a lot of money there!!!
just found out that united way is behind this nonsense---guess who's stocking santa will be putting coal in this year?
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I find your info valuable, and thanks!!!
Ricky10
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But the CDC’s vaccine advisers, at a June 24 meeting, said that getting covid-19, the illness caused by the virus, puts someone at far greater risk of heart inflammation and other serious medical problems than the risk of developing myocarditis from vaccination.
jameschoi
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So I got the 1st moderna shot, never went back for the 2nd. Am I dead soon?
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Great point! Broadly speaking, it’s 1/20 from the virus infection and about 1/10,000 from the vaccine.But the CDC’s vaccine advisers, at a June 24 meeting, said that getting covid-19, the illness caused by the virus, puts someone at far greater risk of heart inflammation and other serious medical problems than the risk of developing myocarditis from vaccination.
Ricky10
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Human coronavirus-associated myocarditis is known, and a number of coronavirus disease 19 (COVID-19)–related myocarditis cases have been reported. The pathophysiology of COVID-19–related myocarditis is thought to be a combination of direct viral injury and cardiac damage due to the host’s immune response.
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Ricky10
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Generally speaking, I think a great deal of people hyper react to the potential side effects of the vaccine(s) while significantly neglecting to acknowledge the potential side effects of the viral infection itself. Recovering from an infection and feeling back to normal, doesn’t necessarily mean that things are indeed back to normal throughout the body. I don’t know quite how or when that disconnect occurred.
I’m not calling you out @BamBam54 for posting that article, as it is today’s news
BamBam54
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With the data we have thus far,, the vaccine is safer than complications from covid, though this varies by age group. For those over 65, the vaccine is far safer than covid. For those under 18, I would argue the vaccine is actually less safe. For those in the middle it's more of a personal risk vs reward calculation and decision.
I posted the link because its not only today's news, but yet another indication that the vaccine has more dangerous side effects coming to light the longer we study it. Which is pretty typical. Still not as dangerous as covid itself but clearly more dangerous and less effective to some degree than we were led to believe 6 months ago. Enough to be a deal breaker? No, not yet.
But NO ONE knows if there will be more significant problems 10 or 20 years down the road post-vaccine plus however many boosters we are pressured to take between now and then. And oh, BTW, no liability at all for big pharma or the govt even IF the vaccine is later determined to be harmful or deadly.... oooops??
Again, always remember the MOM hip debacle and the heavy metal poisoning that only came to light 10 years later. Damn near killed my wife, her cobalt blood levels were over 50x times above acceptable numbers by the time anyone figured it out. No doctor called to follow-up on the metal hip they installed even after they KNEW it was likely unsafe. Nope, no one said a thing until she got so sick she had to go to the hospital thinking the pain/sickness was appendicitis. And then they had to immediately replace the hip.... again. And then that one came apart and it had to get replaced again a few months later. Nothing more fun than a couple extra hip replacements!
Or another personal example - the Ford Explorer tire recall. I had a dangerous blowout just like the incidents on TV that caused several deaths. I called Ford to report it and they said my tire serial numbers were not on the recall list. I pointed out that NONE of the tires were on any recall list until enough people died, and they better start adding my numbers to the tally!
Basically, we just don't know how dangerous something might be until AFTER it shows itself. There is never any data or proof until after it happens.
I posted the link because its not only today's news, but yet another indication that the vaccine has more dangerous side effects coming to light the longer we study it. Which is pretty typical. Still not as dangerous as covid itself but clearly more dangerous and less effective to some degree than we were led to believe 6 months ago. Enough to be a deal breaker? No, not yet.
But NO ONE knows if there will be more significant problems 10 or 20 years down the road post-vaccine plus however many boosters we are pressured to take between now and then. And oh, BTW, no liability at all for big pharma or the govt even IF the vaccine is later determined to be harmful or deadly.... oooops??
Again, always remember the MOM hip debacle and the heavy metal poisoning that only came to light 10 years later. Damn near killed my wife, her cobalt blood levels were over 50x times above acceptable numbers by the time anyone figured it out. No doctor called to follow-up on the metal hip they installed even after they KNEW it was likely unsafe. Nope, no one said a thing until she got so sick she had to go to the hospital thinking the pain/sickness was appendicitis. And then they had to immediately replace the hip.... again. And then that one came apart and it had to get replaced again a few months later. Nothing more fun than a couple extra hip replacements!
Or another personal example - the Ford Explorer tire recall. I had a dangerous blowout just like the incidents on TV that caused several deaths. I called Ford to report it and they said my tire serial numbers were not on the recall list. I pointed out that NONE of the tires were on any recall list until enough people died, and they better start adding my numbers to the tally!
Basically, we just don't know how dangerous something might be until AFTER it shows itself. There is never any data or proof until after it happens.
Beau
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Hilliar remembers alright, but ... what difference does it make?
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Ricky10
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So how fun is this!
An unvaccinated patient that has been in the hospital for months because of placement issues, became symptomatic and tested positive on 8/12. She has no visitors, so it has been linked to one of the employees who had to sit in her room to prevent her from committing suicide. So now everyone who worked or even walked down the hall on that floor within the last 10 days or so has to be tested for the China virus every 3 days for 20 days, and of course that includes me. Essentially everyone really.
This began 3 days ago and as of yesterday, they identified 7 positive healthcare workers and I am unaware of their vax status or who they even are. That is kept confidential.
I got my first test back yesterday, and I was negative. I happen to be working on Sunday so I can get that one in too, but I am not scheduled to work 3 days after that. We have all refused to come in on our days off, so they can go f*ck themselves.
An unvaccinated patient that has been in the hospital for months because of placement issues, became symptomatic and tested positive on 8/12. She has no visitors, so it has been linked to one of the employees who had to sit in her room to prevent her from committing suicide. So now everyone who worked or even walked down the hall on that floor within the last 10 days or so has to be tested for the China virus every 3 days for 20 days, and of course that includes me. Essentially everyone really.
This began 3 days ago and as of yesterday, they identified 7 positive healthcare workers and I am unaware of their vax status or who they even are. That is kept confidential.
I got my first test back yesterday, and I was negative. I happen to be working on Sunday so I can get that one in too, but I am not scheduled to work 3 days after that. We have all refused to come in on our days off, so they can go f*ck themselves.