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What I am saying is this, if the liberals that are in power don’t wake up they will start another civil war. If that were to happen, many lives would be lost. I’m not saying I want it to happen, but if they keep pushing the socialist agenda the country is going to really fight back. There have been articles written in the UK back in the early 2000’s that stated the US was on the brink of another civil war. That’s been 20 years ago. Our country is falling apart and it’s only going to get worse with the way Biden is running it.

Im in the shyts with both the left and right, Im screwed, lol
 
You’re judging Arnold for the sins of his father now? He had zero choice who his father is, and he left the country at a pretty young age to come to America and become an American citizen.

My father was a nice guy but I never wanted to be like him. Its really an unfair correlation.
 
My father was a nice guy but I never wanted to be like him. Its really an unfair correlation.
This. Arnold had his own demons, as has been mentioned. Talking about what his father did is so dumb, especially since Arnold didn’t even live in the same county as him for literally his entire adult life lol.
 
You’re judging Arnold for the sins of his father now? He had zero choice who his father is, and he left the country at a pretty young age to come to America and become an American citizen. And I don’t think Trump actually loves neo-Nazis, only that Neo-Nazis love him, and he hasn’t really ever condemned them, and seemingly even called them “great people” a few times, including when he retweet’s a video of people shouting “white power.” But given what we know of his affinity for Twitter, maybe he just saw people holding Trump flags and immediately shared it without even watching or listening to it. Granted, he probably didn’t want to lose their votes by condemning them, but still, not exactly a good look.

And I don’t buy Arnold as holding any Nazi views at all. Dude came to America and was friendly with black bodybuilders, and Joe Weider was Jewish, so I’d hardly think Arnold secretly hated the man who essentially made his career.

I’m also confused. You said you judge a man on his actions, but how you’re also judging a man on his parents actions and his children’s actions?

No doubt Arnold was a very flawed individual in his personal life, but a lot of the things said about him aren’t terribly different from Trump. Extramarital affairs, rich celebrities who became politicians and donated their salaries when in office. Literally every public political official panders to their base. Arnold, Trump, Obama, Biden, Bush, Clinton, etc.

My issue isn’t with Trump’s playboy lifestyle. I honestly wouldn’t care if he had a consensual harem of women, or went to a legal brothel every night. I just find it hilarious that he claims to be a Christian, and some Christians says he’s a good Christian and even “chosen by God.”

Of course, you can be a good political leader and a terrible Christian, or even a terrible person, I don’t deny that. But I just think it’s nuts to see Christians claiming Trump is a good Christian. I never heard Arnold claim to be a good Christian. Or does he?

Like I said before, I really don't give a rats-ass what Arnold thinks about anything. You were the one that brought him up. Why? Trump may not be a man of moral virtue, but Arnold is worse/lower on that scale by any meaningful measure.

I also don't peddle the nazi gimmick for political advantage or opportunism. But if anyone was going to start wrongly accusing Trump, i'd say Arnold is the last MF'er that should be opening his HGH mutated mouth!! And please don't tell me you listened to CNN claim that Trump called nazis "great people" in Charlottesville. LOL. Did you ever take a moment to read the full transcript?

It's a silly point to claim nazis voted for Trump (over the Kamala ticket). Who knows if they even vote at all? But if it matters to you who they support, Nazis probably love Arnold... German bodybuilder of nazi descent who likes guns! So then what about the antifa/marxist/anarchists that likely all voted Biden. Do you care about them the same way?? It's a free country with free speech and the right to vote for whoever you want. At least it used to be. Guess which bunch of a-holes are quickly ending that???

This is also the second time you brought up the Christian thing. Another idea that I give absolute zero-fawks about. People can worship whatever sky fairies they choose... just don't knock on my door to sell that ****. Freedom of religion includes the option to practice "none at all".

Trump certainly has his flaws, no argument there. Narcissism is chief among them, thin skin, small hands, and the vocabulary of a middle school kid. But my point is only that he is FAR better than Clinton, Obama, and Biden based on real actions taken for the good of this nation.

And among the many examples of character given back and forth, you appear to have blissfully skipped by any defense of Biden....?
 
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Like I said before, I really don't give a rats-ass what Arnold thinks about anything. You were the one that brought him up. Why? Trump may not be a man of moral virtue, but Arnold is worse/lower on that scale by any meaningful measure.

I also don't peddle the nazi gimmick for political advantage or opportunism. But if anyone was going to start wrongly accusing Trump, i'd say Arnold is the last MF'er that should be opening his HGH mutated mouth!! And please don't tell me you listened to CNN claim that Trump called nazis "great people" in Charlottesville. LOL. Did you ever take a moment to read the full transcript?

It's a silly point to claim nazis voted for Trump (over the Kamala ticket). Who knows if they even vote at all? But if it matters to you who they support, Nazis probably love Arnold... German bodybuilder of nazi descent who likes guns! So then what about the antifa/marxist/anarchists that likely all voted Biden. Do you care about them the same way?? It's a free country with free speech and the right to vote for whoever you want. At least it used to be. Guess which bunch of a-holes are quickly ending that???

This is also the second time you brought up the Christian thing. Another idea that I give absolute zero-fawks about. People can worship whatever sky fairies they choose... just don't knock on my door to sell that ****. Freedom of religion includes the option to practice "none at all".

Trump certainly has his flaws, no argument there. Narcissism is chief among them, thin skin, small hands, and the vocabulary of a middle school kid. But my point is only that he is FAR better than Clinton, Obama, and Biden based on real actions taken for the good of this nation.

And among the many examples of character given back and forth, you appear to have blissfully skipped by any defense of Biden....?
Trump literally retweeted a video of his supporters holding Trump signs shouting “White power” and said they were “great people.” The only deniability he had there was if he retweeted the video without actually listening to it, thinking it was just people with Trump signs, and didn’t hear the “white power.” This was in Florida by the way.

And Arnold is Austrian. And what about the Christians who don’t want gay couples to be able to have equal rights under the law as straight couples? Or don’t want them to be able to adopt kids? That’s imposing their religion on others, no?

And I’m not defending Biden by the way. Dude comes off like a creepy uncle, says more dumb things than Bush, and has a bad voting history on more than one topic.

Trump and Biden both suck. So does Obama, Bush, and both Clintons. And Bernie. And Rand Paul.

Give me Ron Paul or JoJo any day!
 
DUIs are never good. Always bad, no doubt. But didn’t Trump also dodge the draft? Then then play “Fortunate Son” at his campaign rallies?

I can’t help but find it funny to see people ITT say Arnold is bad for siding with Hollywood billionaires, while defending Trump, a literal Hollywood billionaire, and slam people for dodging the draft, when Trump also did that.
in high school joe biden played baseball and was a standout halfback and wide receiver on high school football team...biden then went on to get 5 deferments to get out of vietnam claiming asthma. i find it odd that after graduating high school at 18 which was the legal age to be drafted that he suddenly developed asthma so bad that it kept him out of the draft?

of course trump and his bone spurs are well known because it has been covered so extensively---but how many are aware of bidens 5 deferments due to asthma after being a standout high school athlete?

many people mistakenly find born in the usa a patriotic song....it is clearly a anti-vietnam and VA song---bruce got a deferment for 'acting crazy' at induction physical.
 
in high school joe biden played baseball and was a standout halfback and wide receiver on high school football team...biden then went on to get 5 deferments to get out of vietnam claiming asthma. i find it odd that after graduating high school at 18 which was the legal age to be drafted that he suddenly developed asthma so bad that it kept him out of the draft?

of course trump and his bone spurs are well known because it has been covered so extensively---but how many are aware of bidens 5 deferments due to asthma after being a standout high school athlete?

many people mistakenly find born in the usa a patriotic song....it is clearly a anti-vietnam and VA song---bruce got a deferment for 'acting crazy' at induction physical.
So they both suck in that regard. Again, I never said they can’t both suck. They both suck. So does Obama, Bush, both Clintons, Bernie, and Rand.

Give me Ron Paul or JoJo. Hell, I’ll take Mark Cuban. Dude is a better businessman than Trump and also much more polished and less divisive.
 
So they both suck in that regard. Again, I never said they can’t both suck. They both suck. So does Obama, Bush, both Clintons, Bernie, and Rand.

Give me Ron Paul or JoJo. Hell, I’ll take Mark Cuban. Dude is a better businessman than Trump and also much more polished and less divisive.
mark cuban is a turd that somehow managed to avoid being flushed...his ego is twice the size of trumps and that is saying a lot!!!
 
mark cuban is a turd that somehow managed to avoid being flushed...his ego is twice the size of trumps and that is saying a lot!!!
lol. He’s a more successful businessman than Trump, you, I, and everyone else in this thread combined. Pretty much every billionaire is an egomaniac. Tell me what makes him so bad in terms of his ACTIONS, since everyone in here seems to say actions are what matters to shrug off Trump’s talk.
 
lol. He’s a more successful businessman than Trump, you, I, and everyone else in this thread combined. Pretty much every billionaire is an egomaniac. Tell me what makes him so bad in terms of his ACTIONS, since everyone in here seems to say actions are what matters to shrug off Trump’s talk.
my dislike for cuban is more gut feeling-the thought of him as president scares the hell out of me. everytime i see him on tv he gives me the creeps, much like henry kissinger.


to be fair many anti-trumpers disliked trump on a emotional level and not based on his policies.
 
my dislike for cuban is more gut feeling-the thought of him as president scares the hell out of me. everytime i see him on tv he gives me the creeps, much like henry kissinger. :)
Lol. I like him more than I like Mr. Wonderful on Shark Tank. But I guess I can’t argue with a gut feeling.
 
Well they learned that the capitol can be taken over in 2.5 minutes. Hopefully next time they burn it down!
And there were a ton of arrests. Not sure how many people want to go through that again in retrospect, realizing Trump won’t bail them out, nor that he even can anymore.
 
And there were a ton of arrests. Not sure how many people want to go through that again in retrospect, realizing Trump won’t bail them out, nor that he even can anymore.
in fairness at a few blm rallies that turned into riots biden's team bailed them out....and biden is in a position to bail out bad behavior on the left.
 
Yes, Trump dodged the draft. Shitty of him for sure. But he did serve his country as President. For free, donating his entire salary. Only President ever to hug the American flag on stage. Only President to stand in the sun and shake the hand of every single graduate from Annapolis.

Clinton also found a way to dodge the Vietnam draft. Obama and Biden didn't serve either. The same Dems who side with those who burn and desecrate the American flag. The same dems who defunded the military. The same dems who bowed to leaders of other nations and sent plane loads of cash to Iran.

I don't give a rats ass about Schwarzenegger. His dad was an actual nazi and he impregnated his maid.

If you don't think military veterans judge a man by the whole of his actions, I think you underestimate them/us.
Lol Trump didn't serve for free. He might have donated his salary, but he still made money.

Thats like saying that Mark Zuckerberg serves facebook by working for only $1 a year as his salary.
 
Lol Trump didn't serve for free. He might have donated his salary, but he still made money.

Thats like saying that Mark Zuckerberg serves facebook by working for only $1 a year as his salary.

Shhh, it sounds so much better when we act like he did this out of the goodness of his heart.
 
Holy cow... Biden is now the King of Coyotes. Bringing illegals across the border by the tens of thousands. Unbelievable.

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Trump for all his personal flaws, understood the need for secure borders and truly opposed unchecked illegal immigration!
Trumps "remain in Mexico" policy was in defiance of the US's Refugee Act, where it was supposed to be illegal to turn a person back if it meant they would face persecution.

"Human Rights First has documented “at least 816 publicly reported cases of kidnapping, rape, torture, assault, and other violent attacks against asylum seekers and migrants returned to Mexico."

But I guess enforcing that policy was the Christian thing to do
 
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And there were a ton of arrests. Not sure how many people want to go through that again in retrospect, realizing Trump won’t bail them out, nor that he even can anymore.

I know I won’t be lining up to go to jail for it. But, I will cheer it on. Make politicians afraid again!
 
Well 2.5 minutes when they are allowed and invited to do so.

Allegedly. Unless you would apply that across the board and concede the election was also stolen. It is after all based on here-say like the claim that the police assisted them. Or, we can conclude that Paul blart mall cop is not exactly a barrier to repel an attack?
 
Allegedly. Unless you would apply that across the board and concede the election was also stolen. It is after all based on here-say like the claim that the police assisted them. Or, we can conclude that Paul blart mall cop is not exactly a barrier to repel an attack?

Why would anyone concede something that isn't true?

I mean, you saw the same pictures as me about the security when BLM was a threat. Bunch of hillbillies with nothing to do and incited by the President? Wide open baby!
 
Afraid to carry out the will of the people and elect Biden?

They need to fear the people. Every law they try and pass the first thing on their mind should be their safety and if that law is representative of the interest of the American citizens they serve. They have free reign to do their own bidding, line their pockets at our expense, and destroy our country for their own personal gains. Get the rope.
 
Why would anyone concede something that isn't true?

I mean, you saw the same pictures as me about the security when BLM was a threat. Bunch of hillbillies with nothing to do and incited by the President? Wide open baby!

I saw with my own eyes a stolen election just like you saw with your own eyes police assisting rioters into the building. See how that works?
 
Why would anyone concede something that isn't true?

I mean, you saw the same pictures as me about the security when BLM was a threat. Bunch of hillbillies with nothing to do and incited by the President? Wide open baby!

I saw with my own eyes a stolen election just like you saw with your own eyes police assisting rioters into the building. See how that works?
 
Trumps "remain in Mexico" policy was in defiance of the US's Refugee Act, where it was supposed to be illegal to turn a person back if it meant they would face persecution.

"Human Rights First has documented “at least 816 publicly reported cases of kidnapping, rape, torture, assault, and other violent attacks against asylum seekers and migrants returned to Mexico."

But I guess enforcing that policy was the Christian thing to do

Its time to repeal the US Refugee Act, this country is broke and we cant afford it anymore, unless people are willing to directly be responsible and pay for them.
 
Its time to repeal the US Refugee Act, this country is broke and we cant afford it anymore, unless people are willing to directly be responsible and pay for them.

Trump should have loaded up refugees (code for military aged males) and illegals into trebuchets and launched them back across the border.
 
Trump should have loaded up refugees (code for military aged males) and illegals into trebuchets and launched them back across the border.

We have 75 million legal Americans facing persecution here at home, we have enough damn problems.
 
And yet that was in 2017. In 2020 he retweeted a video of people shouting “white power” and thanked them, calling them “great people.”

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You said he had never condemned them yes? So I'm alerting you to the fact that he did thats all. Not gonna say he has or hasn't courted white supremacists either way.
 
True....and not all white conservatives are white suprematists or KKK members.
Yes. That is obvious. I am a registered Republican. As are many of my friends and family members. Many who identify as much more conservative than I also are not at all racist by any means. Never said they were. Not at all. It’s usually a very vocal minority of any group that are the violent and hateful ones.

You said he had never condemned them yes? So I'm alerting you to the fact that he did thats all. Not gonna say he has or hasn't courted white supremacists either way.
Ok. He’s sent highly mixed messages then. Both criticizing and praising them, sometimes only moths apart.
Who has more actual ties to the KKK... Biden or Trump??
Criticizing Trump is not defending or praising Biden for the hundredth time.
 
Who has more actual ties to the KKK... Biden or Trump??
the better question is who has ties to the most racists/hate mongers? i think farrakhan and nation of islam probably has more members than ALL the other racist groups combined?

why is it we ONLY hear about white racists/hate mongers?
 
the better question is who has ties to the most racists/hate mongers? i think farrakhan and nation of islam probably has more members than ALL the other racist groups combined?

why is it we ONLY hear about white racists?
I know you’re not talking about me, but I’ve condemned the Nation of Islam MANY times, as well as athletes that support it. I am Jewish after all. Their official views read like a more hateful, racist version of Scientology.
 
the better question is who has ties to the most racists/hate mongers? i think farrakhan and nation of islam probably has more members than ALL the other racist groups combined?

why is it we ONLY hear about white racists/hate mongers?
I agree we definitely hear about white supremacy as the cause of absolutely every problem ever, meanwhile Black Supremacy Matters have total corporate, political and media endorsement as the answer to all problems. Why do people think that the answer to a particular evil is the equal and opposite evil, you just end up with double the evil haha. The answer is surely not demonising any race but rather all rational people coming together and denouncing divisive hatred, not propagating it because it comes from "people of colour". God i hate that term
 
I know you’re not talking about me, but I’ve condemned the Nation of Islam MANY times, as well as athletes that support it. I am Jewish after all. Their official views read like a more hateful, racist version of Scientology.
exactly, i mean why is it ok to call jews termites that need to be exterminated and all whites blue eyed devils....why is this never mentioned? is it because they support the left/democrats?

look at james clyburn the guy credited for turning the tide for biden in primary and his association with farrakhan?

there are probably 100x more farrakhan supporters than all white supremacists combined and yet they get a pass?
 
Thoughts on Gina Carano being let go from the Mandalorian and what was likely a future Star Wars show centered largely around her?

Apparently she was warned back in November for making transphobic and anti-mask comments, but she was not canned or penalized. Nor do I think she should have been. She said some dumb things, but nothing that heinous from what I’ve seen anyway.

What finally lead to Disney canning her was her saying being a Republican in America is like being a Jew in the Holocaust. I mean, come on, comparing yourself to Holocaust victims is just so stupid when you’re a publicly known actor/actress.

Ben Shapiro seems to try to defend her as a Jew, but I am also a Jew and I think it’s a dumb, dumb take. Shapiro is the Charlie Zelenoff of debating, but that’s a side note.

He even tried to suggest the literal leading actor in the Mandalorian should be fired for posting a comparison to Nazi Germany himself in 2018. Despite that being before the Mandalorian even aired. Gina said things between seasons. Cancel culture would be canning Pedro for things he said BEFORE being on the show. Not to mention literal stars of shows typically have more leeway, just like star athletes have a longer leash than backups do. People/bosses are more willing to put up with their star player acting out than their role players acting out. If Kaepernick was as good as Brady, SOME team would have signed him, since his value for the team would have been worth the headache, since teams want to win, and don’t want to put up with that level of controversy for a backup QB.

Now, Disney is hardly a paragon of virtue, what with them covering the face of Black Panther in the China poster, and making Fin’s face smaller on the Star Wars poster in China because apparently they’re not fans of black people in China.
 
Thoughts on Gina Carano being let go from the Mandalorian and what was likely a future Star Wars show centered largely around her?

Apparently she was warned back in November for making transphobic and anti-mask comments, but she was not canned or penalized. Nor do I think she should have been. She said some dumb things, but nothing that heinous from what I’ve seen anyway.

What finally lead to Disney canning her was her saying being a Republican in America is like being a Jew in the Holocaust. I mean, come on, comparing yourself to Holocaust victims is just so stupid when you’re a publicly known actor/actress.

Ben Shapiro seems to try to defend her as a Jew, but I am also a Jew and I think it’s a dumb, dumb take. Shapiro is the Charlie Zelenoff of debating, but that’s a side note.

He even tried to suggest the literal leading actor in the Mandalorian should be fired for posting a comparison to Nazi Germany himself in 2018. Despite that being before the Mandalorian even aired. Gina said things between seasons. Cancel culture would be canning Pedro for things he said BEFORE being on the show. Not to mention literal stars of shows typically have more leeway, just like star athletes have a longer leash than backups do. People/bosses are more willing to put up with their star player acting out than their role players acting out. If Kaepernick was as good as Brady, SOME team would have signed him, since his value for the team would have been worth the headache, since teams want to win, and don’t want to put up with that level of controversy for a backup QB.

Now, Disney is hardly a paragon of virtue, what with them covering the face of Black Panther in the China poster, and making Fin’s face smaller on the Star Wars poster in China because apparently they’re not fans of black people in China.

My brother in law and his family lived in Shanghai, China for three years. His corporation moved him there. My sister in law told me there was a TV commercial that aired advertising washing machines. In the commercial this Chinese lady puts a black man in the washer and he comes out Chinese. Yeah they don’t likes blacks at all.

So not that I agree with what Gina Carano said, but the point I’m going to make is, if she was making comparable comments that support the BLM movement or extremist liberal views, then she would more than likely still be employed.

Hollywood HATES conservatism.
 
It's bullshit cancel culture running amok, pushed by the far left to gain and exploit political power. Suddenly being white and loving your nation somehow makes you a 'white nationalist' in the eyes of the social justice warriors.

And it's gonna be funny in 2 years if people get sick of this new democrat socialist lean and want America back. I think that opportunity is gone as of Jan 5th. It ain't coming back....

I think they stole it, and it's the end of divided government for a generation at least. Just sayin'
 
Why would anyone concede something that isn't true?

I mean, you saw the same pictures as me about the security when BLM was a threat. Bunch of hillbillies with nothing to do and incited by the President? Wide open baby!
Thoughts on Gina Carano being let go from the Mandalorian and what was likely a future Star Wars show centered largely around her?

Apparently she was warned back in November for making transphobic and anti-mask comments, but she was not canned or penalized. Nor do I think she should have been. She said some dumb things, but nothing that heinous from what I’ve seen anyway.

What finally lead to Disney canning her was her saying being a Republican in America is like being a Jew in the Holocaust. I mean, come on, comparing yourself to Holocaust victims is just so stupid when you’re a publicly known actor/actress.

Ben Shapiro seems to try to defend her as a Jew, but I am also a Jew and I think it’s a dumb, dumb take. Shapiro is the Charlie Zelenoff of debating, but that’s a side note.

He even tried to suggest the literal leading actor in the Mandalorian should be fired for posting a comparison to Nazi Germany himself in 2018. Despite that being before the Mandalorian even aired. Gina said things between seasons. Cancel culture would be canning Pedro for things he said BEFORE being on the show. Not to mention literal stars of shows typically have more leeway, just like star athletes have a longer leash than backups do. People/bosses are more willing to put up with their star player acting out than their role players acting out. If Kaepernick was as good as Brady, SOME team would have signed him, since his value for the team would have been worth the headache, since teams want to win, and don’t want to put up with that level of controversy for a backup QB.

Now, Disney is hardly a paragon of virtue, what with them covering the face of Black Panther in the China poster, and making Fin’s face smaller on the Star Wars poster in China because apparently they’re not fans of black people in China.

I watch movies and TV shows so I can see people perform their character, Im not trying to think about who they are off set. If they say stupid crap off stage, have a debate, open a discussion, talk....this cancel culture is really disturbing.
 
Thoughts on Gina Carano being let go from the Mandalorian and what was likely a future Star Wars show centered largely around her?

Apparently she was warned back in November for making transphobic and anti-mask comments, but she was not canned or penalized. Nor do I think she should have been. She said some dumb things, but nothing that heinous from what I’ve seen anyway.

What finally lead to Disney canning her was her saying being a Republican in America is like being a Jew in the Holocaust. I mean, come on, comparing yourself to Holocaust victims is just so stupid when you’re a publicly known actor/actress.

Ben Shapiro seems to try to defend her as a Jew, but I am also a Jew and I think it’s a dumb, dumb take. Shapiro is the Charlie Zelenoff of debating, but that’s a side note.

He even tried to suggest the literal leading actor in the Mandalorian should be fired for posting a comparison to Nazi Germany himself in 2018. Despite that being before the Mandalorian even aired. Gina said things between seasons. Cancel culture would be canning Pedro for things he said BEFORE being on the show. Not to mention literal stars of shows typically have more leeway, just like star athletes have a longer leash than backups do. People/bosses are more willing to put up with their star player acting out than their role players acting out. If Kaepernick was as good as Brady, SOME team would have signed him, since his value for the team would have been worth the headache, since teams want to win, and don’t want to put up with that level of controversy for a backup QB.

Now, Disney is hardly a paragon of virtue, what with them covering the face of Black Panther in the China poster, and making Fin’s face smaller on the Star Wars poster in China because apparently they’re not fans of black people in China.

She’s inconsequential at best, so I couldn’t care less. But, **** these little flowers in Hollywood. Like anyone gives a **** what an actor thinks from their little sheltered oasis without a care in the world unless it is some liberal agenda. Oh, and **** the right wing actors too. Lol
 
She’s inconsequential at best, so I couldn’t care less. But, **** these little flowers in Hollywood. Like anyone gives a **** what an actor thinks from their little sheltered oasis without a care in the world unless it is some liberal agenda. Oh, and **** the right wing actors too. Lol
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