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Ok, so, I can't see in the video if they were armed and I gotta say that it looks like mistakes were probably made on both ends here. I'm not sure that shooting her was the 'right' thing to do, but it may not have been unjustified either. If I was in my office and 100 people were hammering on the locked door to get inside and yelling and screaming - first person through has a high chance of being my messenger for the others.

I can't really condone a lot of what these "Trump" supporters did in this video - even though I will still say it is a lot less violent and destructive than the videos from BLM - but I also don't think this is the way most Trump supporters go about things, and in spite of what everyone wants to say about Trump, he made a statement for everyone to remain peaceful, remember we are the side that is law abiding.

Trump clearly believes the election was stolen. Many people, including myself, believe there should be a legit investigation even if it doesn't overturn this election and we have been ignored. That doesn't "justify" things. Sometimes people get so upset and wrapped up in fighting, they forget what they are fighting for I guess - but those people are usually pretty desperate.

And to be fair, I think many of the BLM protesters are in the same boats on their side. Many probably are peaceful, some are probably desperate, some are probably crazy. My real issue is the biased presentation of it all - it's OK for one desperate side to commit crimes with impunity, but the other side will have everything twisted against them. I mean, bringing up a man's political tweets after he had a heart attack and died, just so you can push your own narrative?

We surely have to all agree that is disgusting. How would you feel if your father or brother went to a protest, was probably peaceful, had a heart attack and died and the media used his death as political fodder just because he died somewhere that they could use to their advantage? And then dug up every tweet he posted and likely mischaracterized him? It just shows how truly evil the media has become.

Seems like this is going to come with some jail/fine time lol criminals going to do criminal things.

Taters gotta tate. I'm not going to defend criminals. Clearly these videos show some people going a bit far. I'm all for charges being brought and due process and justice. And to be fair, honestly, sometimes you do things with acceptance of your consequences. Maybe some of the people believe they had to do something and they are OK with facing a court and jail. I don't know. But like Trump said, we're supposed to be the law abiding, police-supporting side. We shouldn't be sending police to hospitals, etc.

On the other hand, I also understand the need to stand up to these lifelong, career politicians who are out of touch and screwing everyone over. They need to smarten up and see the writing on the wall. They are sowing these seeds, as much as they want to blame whatever group or faction they want to blame. And that's republicans or democrats - although, again, it's impossible to be a lifelong politician AND a republican. The ideas are in-congruent.

Doesn't it suck that in this thread you have to say "Genuinely Asking" just to ask a question without getting a attack as a response? I feel like that at times myself brother.

In reference to your question, just thought its odd the viking that is getting so much attention from MsM is taking pictures with Pelosi son in law

Man up Bossman. Did someone hurt your feelings? What a puzzy.

Just kidding of course. We do go at it in here. It can be rough.

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Obviously this may or may not be true. Jesse Smollet said the same thing, turned out he just likes to lie and cause division too.

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Also, turns out December was the biggest month for job losses(140k) since last April (20.8 million). Yeesh.

Again, if this is true, it isn't what MOST republicans stand for. I don't know the full story of course - but people do a lot of stupid things. I am solidly on the side of being against attacking someone for taking a photo - although I don't know if there was more to it in this instance.
 
Again, if this is true, it isn't what MOST republicans stand for. I don't know the full story of course - but people do a lot of stupid things. I am solidly on the side of being against attacking someone for taking a photo - although I don't know if there was more to it in this instance.

Yeah, right now who knows if it’s true. Jesse Smollet said the same thing and the cart came before the horse. It’s funny how quick that article was published and pushed to the top of Washington Post
 
Your conversation is always welcome, friend. How do you think the thread keeps going? If everyone agreed it would be a giant echo chamber.
but wait....biden said he will unite us---will we all be in agreement on jan 20th.

i guess we will close this thread down on jan 21st then-eh?

thank you oh great and mighty biden.....
 
Need to rename this thread to the official political discussion thread. You know to keep it alive after Trump moves down to Florida to play golf and bang porno stars.
 
Need to rename this thread to the official political discussion thread. You know to keep it alive after Trump moves down to Florida to play golf and bang porno stars.

He is running in 2024 and fooling all the sheep again that he is cleaning out the swamp....may as well as save Admin time from renaming it all over again lol
 
He is running in 2024 and fooling all the sheep again that he is cleaning out the swamp....may as well as save Admin time from renaming it all over again lol

After the shitshow that transpired after the election who besides the 20% base is going to vote for him again? I certainly would not. My circle of friends will not. 🤷🏼‍♂️
 
No deflection here. Who I voted for doesn’t matter in the situation of people breaking into the capital building.

Who I voted for doesn’t change the fact I still have to go to work and provide for my family.

I had to choose between two white dudes that have a minuscule impact in my life. So telling you who I voted for doesn’t matter.

But those two dudes, regardless of what color they are, do have an impact in your life. Truthfully, I don’t care who you voted for. It doesn’t matter. What does matter is this country is going to see way more turmoil than it has. The fighting, the accusations of injustice, racial issues....they’re all going to get worse. And on top of it, the economy is going to tank. The president doesn’t have all the power, but he has a lot. So whatever dude sits in that chair does have an impact.
 
But those two dudes, regardless of what color they are, do have an impact in your life. Truthfully, I don’t care who you voted for. It doesn’t matter. What does matter is this country is going to see way more turmoil than it has. The fighting, the accusations of injustice, racial issues....they’re all going to get worse. And on top of it, the economy is going to tank. The president doesn’t have all the power, but he has a lot. So whatever dude sits in that chair does have an impact.
especially when the president's party has control of the house and senate!!!
 
Did anybody’s health insurance go up this year? Ours almost doubled in price and we even downgraded our plan with a higher copay. My wife works for insurance and we get it direct through her job.

Next time I hear King CumHo say insurance companies must bear the brunt the costs of CCP-Virus shots and it’s FREE for everybody I’m slamming my phone hard on my pillow.
 
Did anybody’s health insurance go up this year? Ours almost doubled in price and we even downgraded our plan with a higher copay. My wife works for insurance and we get it direct through her job.

Next time I hear King CumHo say insurance companies must bear the brunt the costs of CCP-Virus shots and it’s FREE for everybody I’m slamming my phone hard on my pillow.

Another $200 a month yep. Thanks Obama.
 
Another $200 a month yep. Thanks Obama.

You think this had to do with the Kenyan National after 4 years?

I thought it was a direct response to the crisis the government artificially created.
 
up until the campaign of 2015 all of the presidential candidates in my lifetime had behaved in a mostly civil manner. personal attacks did occasionally occur but were rare.
when hillary clinton called trump supporters a basket full of deplorables it marked the 1st time in my memory that a presidential candidate villainized a opponents supporters. once that can was opened the genie was out of the bottle and many other democrats jumped on that wagon.
for the last 4 years democrats including elected politicians have villainized not only trump but his supporters also.

trump might very well be a horrible person but it wasn't the person many of his supporters were supporting, it was his policies...trump might be gone but it is the policies democrats stand for that have and will divide us---in my opinion the great divide started when obama tried to put males in female showers and restrooms. the things joe biden has said he plans to do will most certainly continue to divide---in all honesty trump gets the blame for the division but it is the policies that truly divide us....and i believe joe bidens policies with continue to divide and regretably will continue to get worse.

this country has some seriously difficult times ahead and anyone who thinks joe biden is going to heal and unite is indeed misguided.
 
After the shitshow that transpired after the election who besides the 20% base is going to vote for him again? I certainly would not. My circle of friends will not. 🤷🏼‍♂️

He wouldn’t have been so bad if he actually was honest about “draining” the swamp instead of propping it up. Because of that, that core lie showed what a fraud Dump and his entire administration was, still hard to believe he gained on popularity, but I guess it’s popularity contests that win rather than good policy.
 
He wouldn’t have been so bad if he actually was honest about “draining” the swamp instead of propping it up. Because of that, that core lie showed what a fraud Dump and his entire administration was, still hard to believe he gained on popularity, but I guess it’s popularity contests that win rather than good policy.
2 of the big things made trump popular in the beginning...immigration and no boys in girls showers and bathrooms.
 
2 of the big things made trump popular in the beginning...immigration and no boys in girls showers and bathrooms.

Last time I checked illegal immigration was greater under Dump than Obobo.

My wife still has a tranny go in the woman’s bathroom at her workplace LMFAO!

Other than that I agree the initial campaign, but you need to get rid of socialism if you want to control illegal immigration and Dump is nothing but a monster big government socialist. A stupid wall ain’t gonna change anything other than one day it will be used to keep us in.
 
You think this had to do with the Kenyan National after 4 years?

I thought it was a direct response to the crisis the government artificially created.

Insurance rates were fine before that ass clown touched our insurance system. It has been increasing yearly since he did that ****.
 
Did anybody’s health insurance go up this year? Ours almost doubled in price and we even downgraded our plan with a higher copay. My wife works for insurance and we get it direct through her job.

Next time I hear King CumHo say insurance companies must bear the brunt the costs of CCP-Virus shots and it’s FREE for everybody I’m slamming my phone hard on my pillow.
Mine stayed the same. I guess maybe the company is eating the increase? No idea.
 
Insurance rates were fine before that ass clown touched our insurance system. It has been increasing yearly since he did that ****.

Ours went up after Obobocare but this year it was dramatic.
 
Mine stayed the same. I guess maybe the company is eating the increase? No idea.

I wonder if it’s a local State thing as our King has demanded insurance companies do this and that.
 
2 of the big things made trump popular in the beginning...immigration and no boys in girls showers and bathrooms.

I’ve been taking a poll....Did you join the Libertarian Party yet?...lol!
 
I believe he died of a heart attack during all of the commotion. I’ll see if I can find the article. Still a line of duty death. Just not a felonious death.
My wife's co workers husband text yesterday around 4pm in reference to this, he is DCPD. Text read that the capital police officers family was there to take him off life support. Evidently he inhaled some type of fumes from a can that was thrown during the crap that took place on Wednesday.

I've seen it listed as a heart attack, stroke, and a murder .

Just thought I would share
 
But those two dudes, regardless of what color they are, do have an impact in your life. Truthfully, I don’t care who you voted for. It doesn’t matter. What does matter is this country is going to see way more turmoil than it has. The fighting, the accusations of injustice, racial issues....they’re all going to get worse. And on top of it, the economy is going to tank. The president doesn’t have all the power, but he has a lot. So whatever dude sits in that chair does have an impact.
especially when the president's party has control of the house and senate!!!
I don’t understand how people can say that democratic control of the house and senate doesn’t impact everyone. Sure, I think we can all agree that politicians are corrupt, but they do represent opposing agendas and values that do change the dynamics of our country.

Did anybody’s health insurance go up this year? Ours almost doubled in price and we even downgraded our plan with a higher copay. My wife works for insurance and we get it direct through her job.
I am sure that the total cost went up this year for my health/dental insurance, but my personal contribution didn’t increase for the first time ever. It was MaineHealth’s way of softening the blow for not even giving us a cost of living raise this year- which is also the first time ever.
 
Is there going to be a highly publicized and televised massive funeral event in honor of Ashli Babbitt as there was for George Floyd? :unsure:
 

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Is there going to be a highly publicized and televised massive funeral event in honor of Ashli Babbitt as there was for George Floyd? :unsure:

Considering she was part of the a riot breaking into the capitol and George Floyd was killed by the police while detained on the ground and immobile, they really aren't the same thing. The fact that has to be explained is kind of weird.
 
Considering she was part of the a riot breaking into the capitol and George Floyd was killed by the police while detained on the ground and immobile, they really aren't the same thing. The fact that has to be explained is kind of weird.

It’s not weird... he just that he doesn’t like black people. That’s cool...I don’t like a lot of people either.
 
So word is articles to impeach Dump a 2nd time will be put on the floor by Monday. They say Dump is unstable and still has the launch codes and must be stopped.

I also here of post criminal charges which would in effect stop him for running for re-election.

Tax dollars, love to pay them, worth every single penny lol
 
Considering she was part of the a riot breaking into the capitol and George Floyd was killed by the police while detained on the ground and immobile, they really aren't the same thing. The fact that has to be explained is kind of weird.
So in other words, might we say that she was engaging herself in illegal activity?
 
It’s not weird... he just that he doesn’t like black people. That’s cool...I don’t like a lot of people either.
Isn’t that interesting that you put a racial twist on things right off the bat :unsure:

When did I say I don’t like black people?
 
Do you truly think this way or is it just for effect?
What was George Floyd doing before he resisted arrest?

I’m not attacking anyone, I am just looking for thoughts and perspectives before the media attempts to determine that for us, and the masses hop on board.
 
What was George Floyd doing before he resisted arrest?

I’m not attacking anyone, I am just looking for thoughts and perspectives before the media attempts to determine that for us, and the masses hop on board.
George Floyd was detained by numerous officers. At the point he was detained, he was no longer a threat. The officers had full control, and it was continual pressure on his neck which resulted in his death.

Ashli Babbitt was an active threat. She was not detained nor was she trying to flee.

The two situations are not similar other than a person being dead. If you cannot see that, then that is on you.
 
up until the campaign of 2015 all of the presidential candidates in my lifetime had behaved in a mostly civil manner. personal attacks did occasionally occur but were rare.
when hillary clinton called trump supporters a basket full of deplorables it marked the 1st time in my memory that a presidential candidate villainized a opponents supporters. once that can was opened the genie was out of the bottle and many other democrats jumped on that wagon.
for the last 4 years democrats including elected politicians have villainized not only trump but his supporters also.

trump might very well be a horrible person but it wasn't the person many of his supporters were supporting, it was his policies...trump might be gone but it is the policies democrats stand for that have and will divide us---in my opinion the great divide started when obama tried to put males in female showers and restrooms. the things joe biden has said he plans to do will most certainly continue to divide---in all honesty trump gets the blame for the division but it is the policies that truly divide us....and i believe joe bidens policies with continue to divide and regretably will continue to get worse.

this country has some seriously difficult times ahead and anyone who thinks joe biden is going to heal and unite is indeed misguided.
Think about this for a second:

A few of the people involved in the incident at the Capitol have been identified as being white supremacist. Why is it that white supremacists would show up to defend Trump, if Trump was all about unifying America? It's because they know that Trump isn't about unification.

When BLM protested, Blacks and Whites walked together. Some of the staunchest anti BLMers are groups like the Proud Boys who are openly white supremacist.

It's not that difficult to see why people see Trump as the divider, his rhetoric, whether he intends it or not, is the same rhetoric of white supremacists.
 
Considering she was part of the a riot breaking into the capitol and George Floyd was killed by the police while detained on the ground and immobile, they really aren't the same thing. The fact that has to be explained is kind of weird.

I do not in any way condone what the office did in the George Floyd incident. But George Floyd died of toxic levels of fentanyl in his system. The officer didn’t kill him, but I don’t condone what he did either.
 
George Floyd was detained by numerous officers. At the point he was detained, he was no longer a threat. The officers had full control, and it was continual pressure on his neck which resulted in his death.

Ashli Babbitt was an active threat. She was not detained nor was she trying to flee.

The two situations are not similar other than a person being dead. If you cannot see that, then that is on you.

Again....the knee in the neck didn’t kill him. The toxic levels of fentanyl did.
 
Think about this for a second:

A few of the people involved in the incident at the Capitol have been identified as being white supremacist. Why is it that white supremacists would show up to defend Trump, if Trump was all about unifying America? It's because they know that Trump isn't about unification.

When BLM protested, Blacks and Whites walked together. Some of the staunchest anti BLMers are groups like the Proud Boys who are openly white supremacist.

It's not that difficult to see why people see Trump as the divider, his rhetoric, whether he intends it or not, is the same rhetoric of white supremacists.

I don’t support the proud boys but how can they be white supremacists and their leader is Hispanic?
 
Again....the knee in the neck didn’t kill him. The toxic levels of fentanyl did.
Ah yes, just so happened to due of Fentanyl toxicity at the very moment a cop placed force on his neck. Yep
 
Think about this for a second:

A few of the people involved in the incident at the Capitol have been identified as being white supremacist. Why is it that white supremacists would show up to defend Trump, if Trump was all about unifying America? It's because they know that Trump isn't about unification.

When BLM protested, Blacks and Whites walked together. Some of the staunchest anti BLMers are groups like the Proud Boys who are openly white supremacist.

It's not that difficult to see why people see Trump as the divider, his rhetoric, whether he intends it or not, is the same rhetoric of white supremacists.

BLM protestors had many extremist racists as well, goes both ways ya know on top of intense hatred and violence of innocent police officers.

Some factions of Proud boys have condemned racist individuals but the media doesn’t want people to know about that.
 
Again....the knee in the neck didn’t kill him. The toxic levels of fentanyl did.

He is a violent crack-whore, there is nothing else to it and making him the face of the movement was embarrassing.

What the officer did was wrong but he is not a murderer.
 

He is a life long criminal. He even put a gun to his pregnant girlfriends belly to steal money from her so he can buy crack. The fact he isn’t still in jail for that alone is stunning.

I don’t condone the actions of the police officer, it was bad.

Also, that had absolutely nothing to do with race....it was a bad incident, sure.
 
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