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dixonk said:
This is how I have been living post election. Completely shut out from the world besides what people text me and **** I read on the various forums I am active on. Out of all the forums this is the only one I actually enjoy the political discussion. The rest are mostly circle jerks anyway with a few militant libtards mixed in that troll for the sake of trolling.
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the media slants everything, all of them do left and right....on here i get the people slant of the media slant.

one thing i have always thought of was the book the stand where everyone is dead and the guy can go anywhere and see everything...i always fantasized about finding all the secrets the government has been keeping from us-although it would suck not being able to share with anyone it would still be cool to know all the stuff they have been hiding-eh @ax1
 
Jiigzz said:
You have not posted any evidence. Noone has, because there is none.

Trump lawyers in court, knowing they could be disbarred, even said there was no evidence.

The narrative is parroted loudly out of court, but then falls silent in the one place it matters. Weird
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No, you must have missed it. I pulled, by hand myself, state polling numbers by county. I found that in ALL 4 of those states Trump wom the majority of the counties, the majority of the counties had voter turnouts of around 66% and then Biden won ONE single county where the county had significant population and unlike any other county in America these counties had 85-95% voter turnouts.

In Wisconsin, that single county had enough votes for Biden to equal a 100% turnout for the democrats.

The mathematical probability of this is highly unlikely. If 66% voter turnout is the norm, who would expect a higher % turnout in a more heavily populated area?

Is it impossible that this was fair and just some fluke? Nope. Not saying that.


Is it likely? No, it is not likely.

There is evidence, it is not proof, but it is evidence.

You don't see this pattern in states like MA, CA, or TX - why? Because for a democrat to commit fraud in MA or CA has no benefit at all. No way they lose there. And to commit sufficient fraud in a state like Texas would really bring on some scrutiny.

I didn't say I provided proof, I provided evidence. Evidence that I dug up myself,, without any input from the media,, etc. I have not seen this methodology applied anywhere else, and maybe Trump's attorneys either didn't notice it or maybe it was presented and ignored ...like it was ignored here.

It should be investigated.
 
thebigt said:
yes, and i remember what they say about people who answer a question with a question :p
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What do they say about people who answer a question with a question?
 
kenic03 said:
I’ve been reading a lot of rambling from some you on this forum. My main questions are what are mad about? How has your life changed from Obama being President to Trump being President? Some of y’all keep saying black people this and black people that but black people aren’t in charge of anything that affects your daily life. I understand that you feel your whiteness is being attacked due to the fact that you guys are always winning and in charge and there seems to be a little shift in the power dynamics (not much). Also there was a lot of white people out there yesterday did nobody have to go to work or was it a holiday or something.
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They took a vacation day. You do that when you have a job.
 
HIT4ME said:
No, you must have missed it. I pulled, by hand myself, state polling numbers by county. I found that in ALL 4 of those states Trump wom the majority of the counties, the majority of the counties had voter turnouts of around 66% and then Biden won ONE single county where the county had significant population and unlike any other county in America these counties had 85-95% voter turnouts.

In Wisconsin, that single county had enough votes for Biden to equal a 100% turnout for the democrats.

The mathematical probability of this is highly unlikely. If 66% voter turnout is the norm, who would expect a higher % turnout in a more heavily populated area?

Is it impossible that this was fair and just some fluke? Nope. Not saying that.


Is it likely? No, it is not likely.

There is evidence, it is not proof, but it is evidence.

You don't see this pattern in states like MA, CA, or TX - why? Because for a democrat to commit fraud in MA or CA has no benefit at all. No way they lose there. And to commit sufficient fraud in a state like Texas would really bring on some scrutiny.

I didn't say I provided proof, I provided evidence. Evidence that I dug up myself,, without any input from the media,, etc. I have not seen this methodology applied anywhere else, and maybe Trump's attorneys either didn't notice it or maybe it was presented and ignored ...like it was ignored here.

It should be investigated.
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So should every election be recounted if there is a lost or just when your candidate loses.
 
dixonk said:
Breaking into the capitol is hardly as heinous as the crime spree that is going on inside that building. The police were guarding the real criminals. But I can see how someone that appreciates the govt looking after them is more concerned about the govt building being destroyed and shrugging off private property being destroyed.

And no I am not condoning or supporting the vandalization of the capitol. But at the same time I hate my government and the people working for it enough that I can care less about their safety or what some hoodlums want to do to it. To be honest they would be doing the world a favor if they just torched the whole fucking thing.
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I'm firm of the belief that while half of the world has good intentions, the other half is waiting to screw you over.

A lot of people want less Govt. because they think the free market will regulate them instead. I call BS. The free market will screw us over.

In NZ, a liquor tycoon has just been ordered to pay $125k for under paying workers. The dude lives in a multi million dollar house, and is screwing over his workers so that he can maximize profits and live lavishly. Now, you might say that the workers could just work somewhere else, but it's never that simple. People with few other skills are hired for few other jobs. If the guy owns most of the liquor stores, then that leaves very little option.

Anti trust laws exist to stop companies gaining too much power and promote competition. You get rid of those, and the companies with huge buying power will screw over the small players.

People think we can regulate ourselves without govt and law. We can't and we won't. Any person that thinks otherwise is simply lying to themselves.
 
kenic03 said:
So should every election be recounted if there is a lost or just when your candidate loses.
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We already went over this..

No, only when there are multiple accounts of fraudulent activity by people with a strong history of committing fraudulent activity
 
did biden give a exact date when all this healing and unity was going to start?
 
thebigt said:
did biden give a exact date when all this healing and unity was going to start?
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Maybe once he's President, because everything else is on Trump.
 
Jiigzz said:
I'm firm of the belief that while half of the world has good intentions, the other half is waiting to screw you over.

A lot of people want less Govt. because they think the free market will regulate them instead. I call BS. The free market will screw us over.

In NZ, a liquor tycoon has just been ordered to pay $125k for under paying workers. The dude lives in a multi million dollar house, and is screwing over his workers so that he can maximize profits and live lavishly. Now, you might say that the workers could just work somewhere else, but it's never that simple. People with few other skills are hired for few other jobs. If the guy owns most of the liquor stores, then that leaves very little option.

Anti trust laws exist to stop companies gaining too much power and promote competition. You get rid of those, and the companies with huge buying power will screw over the small players.

People think we can regulate ourselves without govt and law. We can't and we won't. Any person that thinks otherwise is simply lying to themselves.
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This country is run by a bunch of nazi communist terrorists, if you want them to run your life good luck. I’ll pass.
 
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thebigt said:
that they are deflecting..... :p
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No deflection here. Who I voted for doesn’t matter in the situation of people breaking into the capital building.

Who I voted for doesn’t change the fact I still have to go to work and provide for my family.

I had to choose between two white dudes that have a minuscule impact in my life. So telling you who I voted for doesn’t matter.
 
Ricky10 said:
Right around the same time we start paying double for our gasoline and heating oil to save the earth
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You do know how gases prices work, right? It has nothing to do with the President as much as you think, but we have to blame somebody for the prices of things going up.
 
Jiigzz said:
I'm firm of the belief that while half of the world has good intentions, the other half is waiting to screw you over.

A lot of people want less Govt. because they think the free market will regulate them instead. I call BS. The free market will screw us over.

In NZ, a liquor tycoon has just been ordered to pay $125k for under paying workers. The dude lives in a multi million dollar house, and is screwing over his workers so that he can maximize profits and live lavishly. Now, you might say that the workers could just work somewhere else, but it's never that simple. People with few other skills are hired for few other jobs. If the guy owns most of the liquor stores, then that leaves very little option.

Anti trust laws exist to stop companies gaining too much power and promote competition. You get rid of those, and the companies with huge buying power will screw over the small players.

People think we can regulate ourselves without govt and law. We can't and we won't. Any person that thinks otherwise is simply lying to themselves.
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The sooner we stop protecting the stupid the better. Survival of the fittest. I can care less about the plight of the willfully lazy. I don’t need or want a government interfering in my life and business. You find a way to create a government that doesn’t serve itself and we can talk. In its current state my government can gobble a bag of dicks. I have no use for the lot of them.
 
kenic03 said:
I’ve been reading a lot of rambling from some you on this forum. My main questions are what are mad about? How has your life changed from Obama being President to Trump being President? Some of y’all keep saying black people this and black people that but black people aren’t in charge of anything that affects your daily life. I understand that you feel your whiteness is being attacked due to the fact that you guys are always winning and in charge and there seems to be a little shift in the power dynamics (not much). Also there was a lot of white people out there yesterday did nobody have to go to work or was it a holiday or something.
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No
 
Jiigzz said:
I'm firm of the belief that while half of the world has good intentions, the other half is waiting to screw you over.

A lot of people want less Govt. because they think the free market will regulate them instead. I call BS. The free market will screw us over.

In NZ, a liquor tycoon has just been ordered to pay $125k for under paying workers. The dude lives in a multi million dollar house, and is screwing over his workers so that he can maximize profits and live lavishly. Now, you might say that the workers could just work somewhere else, but it's never that simple. People with few other skills are hired for few other jobs. If the guy owns most of the liquor stores, then that leaves very little option.

Anti trust laws exist to stop companies gaining too much power and promote competition. You get rid of those, and the companies with huge buying power will screw over the small players.

People think we can regulate ourselves without govt and law. We can't and we won't. Any person that thinks otherwise is simply lying to themselves.
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The sooner we stop protecting the stupid the better. Survival of the fittest. I can care less about the plight of the willfully lazy. I don’t need or want a government interfering in my life and business. You find a way to create a government that doesn’t serve itself and we can talk. In its current state my government can gobble a bag of dicks. I have no use for the lot of them.
 
thebigt said:
that they are deflecting..... :p
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What are they deflecting?

kenic03 said:
So should every election be recounted if there is a lost or just when your candidate loses.
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Not sure how you got there from that :)

In my lifetime there have been 18 years of Liberal presidencies and almost 24 years years of republican presidencies. I have never thought an election should be recounted, etc.

The evidence in this case is pretty readily available, and it suggests a probability that is beyond suspicious. Keep in mind, I'm actually AGREEING with democrats here. For the past 4 years they have made all kinds of claims about election fraud, tampering and interference. So, the question you should be asking yourself is, "Does election fraud only exist when your candidate loses?" - because suddenly the people who were making these claims have won and, "There's nothing to see here. Move along."

All in all, you are right. Asking if something is only fair when your side benefits from it, is a valid question and we should all ask it of ourselves.

Ricky10 said:
Right around the same time we start paying double for our gasoline and heating oil to save the earth 🌍
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Double? You are pretty optimistic huh?
 
Also, @kenic03 - thanks for jumping in convo and welcome aboard. Are you a lifter?

I have spent more and more time on this thread so it's hard for people to probably even tell I have any interest in working out anymore haha...but this thread is a full-time job to keep up with. Maybe I need to take a personal day :)
 
kenic03 said:
You do know how gases prices work, right? It has nothing to do with the President as much as you think, but we have to blame somebody for the prices of things going up.
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What scares me the most is the Paris Agreement, but I hope you are right!
 
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HIT4ME said:
Also, @kenic03 - thanks for jumping in convo and welcome aboard. Are you a lifter?

I have spent more and more time on this thread so it's hard for people to probably even tell I have any interest in working out anymore haha...but this thread is a full-time job to keep up with. Maybe I need to take a personal day :)
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I love lifting weights. That’s why came to AM. I’m all about information and learning the best way to get better with or without supplements. After today some of the people I respected from afar with their knowledge just kinda let me know who they are. All respect though.
 
HIT4ME said:
What are they deflecting?



Not sure how you got there from that :)

In my lifetime there have been 18 years of Liberal presidencies and almost 24 years years of republican presidencies. I have never thought an election should be recounted, etc.

The evidence in this case is pretty readily available, and it suggests a probability that is beyond suspicious. Keep in mind, I'm actually AGREEING with democrats here. For the past 4 years they have made all kinds of claims about election fraud, tampering and interference. So, the question you should be asking yourself is, "Does election fraud only exist when your candidate loses?" - because suddenly the people who were making these claims have won and, "There's nothing to see here. Move along."

All in all, you are right. Asking if something is only fair when your side benefits from it, is a valid question and we should all ask it of ourselves.



Double? You are pretty optimistic huh?
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I don't recall Democrats storming the Capitol after Clinton lost. I recall her conceding defeat soon after the election, even despite tangible evidence of interference and people lying under oath (shock, i know).

Difference here is that evidence for voter fraud has not been presented in court despite all the claims of there being so much clear evidence AND still people stormed the building and are protesting the election.
 
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Obviously someone did get shot. It's crazy how fast the memes move though
 
Jiigzz said:
I don't recall Democrats storming the Capitol after Clinton lost. I recall her conceding defeat soon after the election, even despite tangible evidence of interference and people lying under oath (shock, i know).

Difference here is that evidence for voter fraud has not been presented in court despite all the claims of there being so much clear evidence AND still people stormed the building and are protesting the election.
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Fuq courts, they have no credibility. People have to think for themselves.
 
ax1 said:
Fuq courts, they have no credibility. People have to think for themselves.
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They're certainly not capable of doing that either.
 
kenic03 said:
I love lifting weights. That’s why came to AM. I’m all about information and learning the best way to get better with or without supplements. After today some of the people I respected from afar with their knowledge just kinda let me know who they are. All respect though.
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Haha - well, people have different views. It can be challenging but the great thing about this thread is we can kind of vent and spar with the opposition a little, and then leave it behind and go back to the other threads. But everyone here is a good person IMO - with some challenging differences in SOME views.

Jiigzz said:
I don't recall Democrats storming the Capitol after Clinton lost. I recall her conceding defeat soon after the election, even despite tangible evidence of interference and people lying under oath (shock, i know).

Difference here is that evidence for voter fraud has not been presented in court despite all the claims of there being so much clear evidence AND still people stormed the building and are protesting the election.
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You are correct, no storming after the 2016 election. I will give you that. I'm not sure that's the end-all-be-all of this situation, but I would think that if there was tangible evidence of fraud 4 years ago, and now someone is finally agreeing - the people would say, "OK, let's investigate". IF there is no fraud, everyone is happy and the election is validated as being fraud-free.

And don't get me wrong, I don't want Trump in at this point. I've moved on, Biden has his term in my eyes. If Trump were able to overturn it, he would have such a **** storm on him, even if he legit found a smoking gun and Biden went to jail, his second term would be worse than his first and the violence we would see would rival that seen in BLM riots by a long shot.
 
kenic03 said:
I can care less for Biden and Kamala also but what do they represent? What does Trump represent?
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Biden and Kamala = China

Trump = MAGA!


kenic03 said:
I had to choose between two white dudes that have a minuscule impact in my life. So telling you who I voted for doesn’t matter.
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So are you saying that you wished it had been between 2 black dudes? 2 white women? 2 black women, 1 black dude and a white woman? 1 white dude and a black woman?

How does the color of their skin or gender impact your choice?
 
HIT4ME said:
Haha - well, people have different views. It can be challenging but the great thing about this thread is we can kind of vent and spar with the opposition a little, and then leave it behind and go back to the other threads. But everyone here is a good person IMO - with some challenging differences in SOME views.



You are correct, no storming after the 2016 election. I will give you that. I'm not sure that's the end-all-be-all of this situation, but I would think that if there was tangible evidence of fraud 4 years ago, and now someone is finally agreeing - the people would say, "OK, let's investigate". IF there is no fraud, everyone is happy and the election is validated as being fraud-free.

And don't get me wrong, I don't want Trump in at this point. I've moved on, Biden has his term in my eyes. If Trump were able to overturn it, he would have such a **** storm on him, even if he legit found a smoking gun and Biden went to jail, his second term would be worse than his first and the violence we would see would rival that seen in BLM riots by a long shot.
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thebigt said:
so january 20th 2021 we will be healed and united?

in the words of the pointer sisters--i'm so excited!!!
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Going to take the US years to heal from the mess Trump has made
 
Did anyone end up watching the certification process last night when they reconvened? I did. Let me tell you it was comical to see some of these republican senators back pedal their objections to the election simply because of the events that transpired. If you really believed there was voter fraud would you back pedal an objection regardless of the circumstance? The answer is no. The only people who would do that are the ones who KNEW trumps election fraud claim was complete BS. All of these senators know..believe me they fucking know that FRAUD DID NOT FUCKING HAPPEN. This is simply a case of political warfare taken to a very dangerous extreme and in this case we’re talking about destroying democracy. We are talking about destroying democracy and America for a man who used to yell “You’re Fired! To guys like Gary Busey on reality TV. I just can’t! Lmao! Only two types of people voted for Trump. Stupid people and rich people. The rich don’t want him anymore. Stocks soared when Biden won the presidency. The markets are tired of his ****. So we’re left with the stupid people. The gullible people. People who are easily deceived by a failed businessman with severe case of narcissism. Those are the people who stormed the Capitol. Trump has destroyed the Republican Party
 
Reminds me of the Beer Hall Putsch
 
Jiigzz said:
Going to take the US years to heal from the mess Trump has made
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Weird. Aside from the drama on tv I can’t see anything wrong in my AO. It’s almost as if all the crap I am seeing on TV is staged drama and isn’t really happening. Not hitting home at all.
 
JeremyNG25 said:
No..but at least we will have a leader who doesn’t spew hatred, conspiracy theories and division everyday. That’s definitely a start.
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bullshyt...biden said he will heal and unite this nation-i expect him to do it or he is a liar :p
 
JeremyNG25 said:
Did anyone end up watching the certification process last night when they reconvened? I did. Let me tell you it was comical to see some of these republican senators back pedal their objections to the election simply because of the events that transpired. If you really believed there was voter fraud would you back pedal an objection regardless of the circumstance? The answer is no. The only people who would do that are the ones who KNEW trumps election fraud claim was complete BS. All of these senators know..believe me they fucking know that FRAUD DID NOT FUCKING HAPPEN. This is simply a case of political warfare taken to a very dangerous extreme and in this case we’re talking about destroying democracy. We are talking about destroying democracy and America for a man who used to yell “You’re Fired! To guys like Gary Busey on reality TV. I just can’t! Lmao! Only two types of people voted for Trump. Stupid people and rich people. The rich don’t want him anymore. Stocks soared when Biden won the presidency. The markets are tired of his ****. So we’re left with the stupid people. The gullible people. People who are easily deceived by a failed businessman with severe case of narcissism. Those are the people who stormed the Capitol. Trump has destroyed the Republican Party
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The people who ultimately decided not to object after the events that occurred are cowardly and didn’t fulfill their initial intentions based on momentary emotions. Having said that, many of them also admitted that they were just objecting as a means to appease Trump supporters to make them think their voice was being heard. Whatever, it doesn’t matter...

Now that all the wrong people are officially going to be in positions with great power, you will soon see who the stupid people are and what the destruction of democracy and freedom truly looks like.
 
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