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[muscleupcrohn]

Numbers are going up due to increased testing....

The death rate in CA is .04 percent i believe.

.04%, I think you believe wrong, or missed at least one zero. There are over 7,000 deaths due to it in California. With a 0.04% death rate, you'd be looking at 17,500,000 cases, when they're reporting ~329,000 cases, which comes out to ~2%. Even if you assume that only 1/5 of the cases were actually reported/documented/confirmed, you're still looking at 0.5%.

For your number to be accurate, ~45% of California's population would have already have to have gotten the virus for your number to be accurate, which really, really sounds unlikely.

In summary, I think you mean 0.4%, not 0.04%.

Also, numbers are NOT only going up solely because of increased testing. Plenty of places/states/countries have the same increased testing capability and have no increases in cases, or even drastic decreases in new cases over time.

Please try to check your numbers before posting.

 

[jswain34]

.04%, I think you believe wrong, or missed at least one zero. There are over 7,000 deaths due to it in California. With a 0.04% death rate, you'd be looking at 17,500,000 cases, when they're reporting ~329,000 cases, which comes out to ~2%. Even if you assume that only 1/5 of the cases were actually reported/documented/confirmed, you're still looking at 0.5%.

For your number to be accurate, ~45% of California's population would have already have to have gotten the virus for your number to be accurate, which really, really sounds unlikely.

In summary, I think you mean 0.4%, not 0.04%.

Also, numbers are NOT only going up solely because of increased testing. Plenty of places/states/countries have the same increased testing capability and have no increases in cases, or even drastic decreases in new cases over time.

Please try to check your numbers before posting.

But math is hard & too objective and I’d rather act like i know what im talking about by making shît up as I go along, MUC!

 

[manifesto]

.04%, I think you believe wrong, or missed at least one zero. There are over 7,000 deaths due to it in California. With a 0.04% death rate, you'd be looking at 17,500,000 cases, when they're reporting ~329,000 cases, which comes out to ~2%. Even if you assume that only 1/5 of the cases were actually reported/documented/confirmed, you're still looking at 0.5%.

For your number to be accurate, ~45% of California's population would have already have to have gotten the virus for your number to be accurate, which really, really sounds unlikely.

In summary, I think you mean 0.4%, not 0.04%.

Also, numbers are NOT only going up solely because of increased testing. Plenty of places/states/countries have the same increased testing capability and have no increases in cases, or even drastic decreases in new cases over time.

Please try to check your numbers before posting.

Yes... .4 percent. My bad lol.

 

[manifesto]

But math is hard & too objective and I’d rather act like i know what im talking about by making shît up as I go along, MUC!

You're so "woke" bro...

Keep wearing that mask while you drive...lol

 

[muscleupcrohn]

But math is hard & too objective and I’d rather act like i know what im talking about by making shît up as I go along, MUC!

It reminds me of a story one of my professors told me (in before people claim universities are only indoctrination machines, even though I have a STEM degree which has ZERO to do with politics) where a bunch of people fresh out of school ran an analysis of a drainage or water system on some software, and got some number that was either crazy high or crazy low, and they kept insisting it was right because that’s what the software said, instead of going back and looking for a mistake in the input. The moral of the story is if you get some number that seems way too high or way too low, you probably did something wrong. IIRC he even said if, on an exam, you run out of time after realizing your answer is so far off, if you recognize it’s super far off and make note of it, you’ll get more partial credit. We all make mistakes in calculations here and there, I know I’ve made one here I think, both in regards to the virus and to a general supplement conversion one time IIRC, but I don’t keep making the same mistakes repeatedly and then draw bad conclusions from them. That’s the difference.

 

[muscleupcrohn]

Yes... .4 percent. My bad lol.

No worries, but maybe try to check your numbers from now on. This isn’t the first time you’ve made such a mistake regarding the same topic. And then you make bad conclusions based on your incorrect calculations. We’re all human, but you can be better than that, I have faith in you.

 

[manifesto]

Sir yes sir

 

[Jiigzz]

Numbers are going up due to increased testing....

The death rate in CA is .04 percent i believe.

Its 2.3% based on official numbers. You need to compare total deaths against total cases, not against the total population. Not everyone has covid, so those who aren't infected should be excluded.

The case fatality rate won't be known for some time, and during an outbreak it should only be used as a rough guide on mortality.

Edit: i see this has already been pointed out

 

[jswain34]

Double

 

[jswain34]

You're so "woke" bro...

Keep wearing that mask while you drive...lol

Good one...

 

[Jiigzz]

What do we know about the risk of dying from COVID-19?

If someone is infected with COVID-19, how likely is that person to die? We look closer at the metrics used to discuss mortality risk, and what we can and cannot say from the available data.

ourworldindata.org

Good read

 

[manifesto]

2 million people died from Tuberculosis in 2019...how come no one was forced to wear masks for that?

 

[ax1]

2 million people died from Tuberculosis in 2019...how come no one was forced to wear masks for that?

Barely anybody gets that in the USA though, think less than 10k cases and under 1k deaths.

Didnt look any further, where are people getting it?

 

[thebigt]

2 million people died from Tuberculosis in 2019...how come no one was forced to wear masks for that?

in 1980 4million kids wore jason voorhees masks for halloween-and no one forced them!!!!

 

[manifesto]

On a side note...lol

 

[thebigt]

daniel lee was pronounced dead at 8:07 am this morning....

his last words were...

'you're killing an innocent man'

 

[ax1]

daniel lee was pronounced dead at 8:07 am this morning....

his last words were...

'you're killing an innocent man'

Interesting they pulled this stunt off overnight.

 

[thebigt]

Interesting they pulled this stunt off overnight.

very good, i was wondering if anyone picked up on the speed at which the supreme's acted in this case.

 

[ax1]

very good, i was wondering if anyone picked up on the speed at which the supreme's acted in this case.

And I meant the whole process, from CiaNN "The Supreme Court cleared the way for the resumption of the federal death penalty in an unsigned order released after 2 a.m. ET Tuesday."

Like these old over the hill geezers are up over this at 2am????

 

[thebigt]

And I meant the whole process, from CiaNN "The Supreme Court cleared the way for the resumption of the federal death penalty in an unsigned order released after 2 a.m. ET Tuesday."

Like these old over the hill geezers are up over this at 2am????

yeah right, lol....they knew it was coming and had it signed and ready for delivery in advance....did you happen to see what the vote count was, i don't do cnn.

ok, found it, vote was 5-4.

 

[ax1]

yeah right, lol....they knew it was coming and had it signed and ready for delivery in advance....did you happen to see what the vote count was, i don't do cnn.

Off the top of my head I remember reading 5-4 and they also blocked the lower court in the process.

So like 55% of the most powerful court system in the universe justifies pulling the trigger to kill someone who claims their innocent?

 

[thebigt]

next up is wesley purkey on wednesday and dustin
honken on friday....

lee's execution went without incident but with 2 more scheduled executions this week i expect the amount of protesters to grow.

 

[thebigt]

Off the top of my head I remember reading 5-4 and they also blocked the lower court in the process.

So like 55% of the most powerful court system in the universe justifies pulling the trigger to kill someone who claims their innocent?

the crimes for which he was convicted are particularly heinous, as are the other 2 scheduled to be executed this week-all involved children.

but i have weighed this out and came down on the side of being opposed to capital punishment---if i start making exceptions it is a slippery slope so even though i think they are scumbags, i will oppose their executions.

 

[thebigt]

the next 3 scheduled executions are all white...i wonder if protest turnout will be higher when they get to a black man?

 

[Jiigzz]

2 million people died from Tuberculosis in 2019...how come no one was forced to wear masks for that?

Err, that's not very common to die from in the US.

It's also very widespread - approx 1/4 of the pop has had latent TB. We dont wear facemasks for the common cold or flu, but covid produces far more complications.

 

[Jiigzz]

Also bear in mind that TB isn't novel. It can be treated with long courses of anti biotics as it is a bacterial infection.

Covid has no known treatment yet. And typically, viruses cannot be effectively treated, especially ones that are novel.

Once antibiotics stop being effective against superbugs, then TB and other bacterial diseases will likely cause HUGE issues. They expect superbugs to be serious threats to humanity in my lifetime.

Things like multi drug resistant campylobacter and atypical salmonella are already serious threats. Things that people could typically fight off with meds.

 

[thebigt]

Also bear in mind that TB isn't novel. It can be treated with long courses of anti biotics as it is a bacterial infection.

Covid has no known treatment yet. And typically, viruses cannot be effectively treated, especially ones that are novel.

Once antibiotics stop being effective against superbugs, then TB and other bacterial diseases will likely cause HUGE issues. They expect superbugs to be serious threats to humanity in my lifetime.

Things like multi drug resistant campylobacter and atypical salmonella are already serious threats. Things that people could typically fight off with meds.

over prescribing of antibiotics is a big concern...

 

[ax1]

Also bear in mind that TB isn't novel. It can be treated with long courses of anti biotics as it is a bacterial infection.

Covid has no known treatment yet. And typically, viruses cannot be effectively treated, especially ones that are novel.

Once antibiotics stop being effective against superbugs, then TB and other bacterial diseases will likely cause HUGE issues. They expect superbugs to be serious threats to humanity in my lifetime.

Things like multi drug resistant campylobacter and atypical salmonella are already serious threats. Things that people could typically fight off with meds.

As of today I confirm liquor stores to be essential business’s.

 

[thebigt]

As of today I confirm liquor stores to be essential business’s.

not for me, lol.

 

[thebigt]

in the news---RBG is back in the hospital

 

[dixonk]

in the news---RBG is back in the hospital

 

[dixonk]

in the news---RBG is back in the hospital

 

[muscleupcrohn]

over prescribing of antibiotics is a big concern...

For TB treatment, or in general? Because those are two majorly different things.

 

[thebigt]

For TB treatment, or in general? Because those are two majorly different things.

lol...in general. i know a woman that demands antibiotics at least 3x a year for sinus infections and then whines because they don't help-even though i have told her repeatedly that sinus infections are usually viral. her doctor keeps giving them to her?

just a personal example of someone i know, but i've read that over prescribing is becoming a serious concern.

 

[muscleupcrohn]

lol...in general. i know a woman that demands antibiotics at least 3x a year for sinus infections and then whines because they don't help-even though i have told her repeatedly that sinus infections are usually viral. her doctor keeps giving them to her?

just a personal example of someone i know, but i've read that over prescribing is becoming a serious concern.

And that seems largely irrelevant for TB, unless you think someone is getting TB three times a year and using antibiotics every time.

 

[thebigt]

ok, the report says 'possible' infection, then goes on to say she will stay in hospital a few days to receive iv antibiotics--why the hell do they give iv antibiotics for a 'possible' infection?

 

[dixonk]

ok, the report says 'possible' infection, then goes on to say she will stay in hospital a few days to receive iv antibiotics--why the hell do they give iv antibiotics for a 'possible' infection?

How many times is this now just in the last year? She needs to retire.

 

[thebigt]

And that seems largely irrelevant for TB, unless you think someone is getting TB three times a year and using antibiotics every time.

lol...i said in general, nowhere did i say antibiotics were being over prescribed for tb

hell, i don't know anyone who's even ever had tb!!!

 

[dixonk]

lol...i said in general, nowhere did i say antibiotics were being over prescribed for tb

hell, i don't know anyone who's even ever had tb!!!

I know lots of people that had TB. None of them have ever seen the US though. I have to reject dozens of applicants every year for foreign work deployment because of TB diagnosis or for ever having it. Hell my wife’s brother had TB.

 

[dixonk]

lol...i said in general, nowhere did i say antibiotics were being over prescribed for tb

hell, i don't know anyone who's even ever had tb!!!

I know lots of people that had TB. None of them have ever seen the US though. I have to reject dozens of applicants every year for foreign work deployment because of TB diagnosis or for ever having it. Hell my wife’s brother had TB.

 

[ax1]

How many times is this now just in the last year? She needs to retire.

They need term limits in the Supreme Court, these lifetime posts are ridiculous. Congress needs term limits too.

 

[Jiigzz]

over prescribing of antibiotics is a big concern...

It absolutely is. Even more broadly, overuse of antibiotics in farming and people not completing courses are hugely problematic

 

[Jiigzz]

I know lots of people that had TB. None of them have ever seen the US though. I have to reject dozens of applicants every year for foreign work deployment because of TB diagnosis or for ever having it. Hell my wife’s brother had TB.

It's pretty common - they estimate 1 in 4 of the general pop has TB. Usually the latent form though

 

[jswain34]

ok, the report says 'possible' infection, then goes on to say she will stay in hospital a few days to receive iv antibiotics--why the hell do they give iv antibiotics for a 'possible' infection?

1. It’s a HIPAA violation for someone at the hospital to tell someone in the media exactly whats going on. So she probably does have an infection and got antibiotics, but if the reporter only catches wind that shes on abxs from family or whatever other non hospital employee, they write “possible” infection because they dunno for sure.

2. She could have been extremely ill, like unstable, with clinical or laboratory signs of sepsis in which case antibiotics are initiated for a “presumed” infection. Meaning all signs point to her having one, but they haven’t localized the source yet. This is a potentially life saving measure for a patient.

Thats all just pure speculation on my end.

 

[muscleupcrohn]

lol...i said in general, nowhere did i say antibiotics were being over prescribed for tb

hell, i don't know anyone who's even ever had tb!!!

You directly replied to someone talking about antibiotics for TB lol...

 

[thebigt]

1. It’s a HIPPA violation for someone at the hospital to tell someone in the media exactly whats going on. So she probably does have an infection and got antibiotics, but if the reporter only catches wind that shes on abxs from family or whatever other non hospital employee, they write “possible” infection because they dunno for sure.

2. She could have been extremely ill, like unstable, with clinical or laboratory signs of sepsis in which case antibiotics are initiated for a “presumed” infection. Meaning all signs point to her having one, but they haven’t localized the source yet. This is a potentially life saving measure for a patient.

Thats all just pure speculation on my end.

makes as much sense as anything else i've heard..

 

[thebigt]

You directly replied to someone talking about antibiotics for TB lol...

lol...then why did you ask me tb or in general to which i replied in general...go back and reread the post jiigzz was refering to superbugs

Also bear in mind that TB isn't novel. It can be treated with long courses of anti biotics as it is a bacterial infection.

Covid has no known treatment yet. And typically, viruses cannot be effectively treated, especially ones that are novel.

Once antibiotics stop being effective against superbugs, then TB and other bacterial diseases will likely cause HUGE issues. They expect superbugs to be serious threats to humanity in my lifetime.

Things like multi drug resistant campylobacter and atypical salmonella are already serious threats. Things that people could typically fight off with meds.

 

[Jiigzz]

They need term limits in the Supreme Court, these lifetime posts are ridiculous. Congress needs term limits too.

I'm not in the US, but this does seem like something that needs to be done

 

[dixonk]

I'm not in the US, but this does seem like something that needs to be done

Especially with the growing trend of judges legislating from the bench.

 

[manifesto]