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Not to be all doom and gloom, but damn this war stuff is getting all the more real.

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Jiigzz said:
Not to be all doom and gloom, but damn this war stuff is getting all the more real.

Silly US poking the bear
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Well these war mongers didn't get my vote..... I'm preparing to be a refugee! Need some camping experience buying a tent right now.
 
ax1 said:
Well these war mongers didn't get my vote..... I'm preparing to be a refugee! Need some camping experience buying a tent right now.
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For sure. It's really pushing the boundaries now though
 
Jiigzz said:
For sure. It's really pushing the boundaries now though
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You're just seeing military decisons that aren't hampered by unbelievable rules of engagement instituted bt Obama that got people killed. The Syrian plane was bombing near US personnel. Iran has been antagonizing our Navy ships for a few years, and the only thing Obama did was launder a couple hundred million dollars into foreign currency, load it onto a couple planes, and give it to Iran.
 
youngandfree said:
You're just seeing military decisons that aren't hampered by unbelievable rules of engagement instituted bt Obama that got people killed. The Syrian plane was bombing near US personnel. Iran has been antagonizing our Navy ships for a few years, and the only thing Obama did was launder a couple hundred million dollars into foreign currency, load it onto a couple planes, and give it to Iran.
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These are consequences of being foreign interventionists that are continually supported by Dump. Nothing is really changing or going to change as long as people keep voting for war mongering Demicans and Republicrats. We shouldnt be the global police force and expanding the empire, our founding fathers warned us about this.
 
youngandfree said:
You're just seeing military decisons that aren't hampered by unbelievable rules of engagement instituted bt Obama that got people killed. The Syrian plane was bombing near US personnel. Iran has been antagonizing our Navy ships for a few years, and the only thing Obama did was launder a couple hundred million dollars into foreign currency, load it onto a couple planes, and give it to Iran.
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Near US personnel who are there for what reason? Of course they are near US personnel, both the US and Russia are fighting for the same city.

Russia at least has a 'right' to be there as it is Assads country, whether the US likes it or not, amd whether you like ot or not. If Syrians don't like Assad, they can fight for control of the country in any way they like (which they are) without the US intervening.

The US is simply being involved where they should not be in the first place
 
Jiigzz said:
Not to be all doom and gloom, but damn this war stuff is getting all the more real.

Silly US poking the bear
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as far as Russia and n.korea the democrats seem more hawkish than the republicans? in particular when it comes to n.korea which I think is the larger cause for alarm.

this will for sure be construed as a conspiracy theory, but I think it is possible the democrats are urging trump to get involved in something then point the finger of blame at trump when something horrible happens...politics are no longer about what is best for the country-in my honest opinion.
 
Jiigzz said:
Near US personnel who are there for what reason? Of course they are near US personnel, both the US and Russia are fighting for the same city.

Russia at least has a 'right' to be there as it is Assads country, whether the US likes it or not, amd whether you like ot or not. If Syrians don't like Assad, they can fight for control of the country in any way they like (which they are) without the US intervening.

The US is simply being involved where they should not be in the first place
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Exactly! We have no business there and we've screwed over all of our allies, so our time is running out quickly. And now we have morons claiming Obama did nothing, yet they would have built Trump a hundred foot golden statue had he been the one to get Osama bin Laden.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
Exactly! We have no business there and we've screwed over all of our allies, so our time is running out quickly. And now we have morons claiming Obama did nothing, yet they would have built Trump a hundred foot golden statue had he been the one to get Osama bin Laden.
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There is absolutely no evidence Bin-laden was rid of during the Obama administration, but you do have a point.
 
CiaNN made it seem all day that Dump was going to take his first big hit with the Dem winning in Georgia, and now they are projecting the Republican the winner, ROFL! Dems spent $40 million dollars, with all their hypocrisy they could have fed all the refugees of the world for months or perhaps years.
 
thebigt said:
as far as Russia and n.korea the democrats seem more hawkish than the republicans? in particular when it comes to n.korea which I think is the larger cause for alarm.

this will for sure be construed as a conspiracy theory, but I think it is possible the democrats are urging trump to get involved in something then point the finger of blame at trump when something horrible happens...politics are no longer about what is best for the country-in my honest opinion.
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Lol. Trump is in charge. Guess what? That means he is the Commander in Chief and he had to give the OK, not Democrats.

I guess now every time Trump does something, his supporters will say the Democrats did it.

That's rich!
 
youngandfree said:
You're just seeing military decisons that aren't hampered by unbelievable rules of engagement instituted bt Obama that got people killed. The Syrian plane was bombing near US personnel. Iran has been antagonizing our Navy ships for a few years, and the only thing Obama did was launder a couple hundred million dollars into foreign currency, load it onto a couple planes, and give it to Iran.
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Damn, you drank the whole supply of Kool-Aid didn't you?
 
Misfit28 said:
Lol. Trump is in charge. Guess what? That means he is the Commander in Chief and he had to give the OK, not Democrats.

I guess now every time Trump does something, his supporters will say the Democrats did it.

That's rich!
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They all point their fingers at each-other in public and behind closed doors they all feed the Military Industrial Complex. They all want wars. Almost every one of them are all the same.
 
ax1 said:
CiaNN made it seem all day that Dump was going to take his first big hit with the Dem winning in Georgia, and now they are projecting the Republican the winner, ROFL! Dems spent $40 million dollars, with all their hypocrisy they could have fed all the refugees of the world for months or perhaps years.
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That Trump referendum went down in flames like Clinton's Electoral College total.
 
Misfit28 said:
Damn, you drank the whole supply of Kool-Aid didn't you?
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So you are saying Obama didn't launder pallets of US Dollars into foreign currency and send it to Iran? And you are saying Obama had some kind of response for all the times Iran harrassed our Navy ships? How about the time Iran captured our ship and held our sailors captive? What was Obama & Kerry's response?
 
youngandfree said:
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That Trump referendum went down in flames like Clinton's Electoral College total.
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I heard $40 million dollars is the most money ever spent for a congressional seat in history, wtf is wrong with people?
 
youngandfree said:
So you are saying Obama didn't launder pallets of US Dollars into foreign currency and send it to Iran? And you are saying Obama had some kind of response for all the times Iran harrassed our Navy ships? How about the time Iran captured our ship and held our sailors captive? What was Obama & Kerry's response?
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First, please consult a dictionary when using big words like "launder" because it makes you look just awful when you use them so horribly incorrectly. Second, you mean when our ships were in their waters?!?! They had every right to sink that ship, but you and Fox are categorizing them as the aggressor? What the hell do you think we would do if an Iranian ship came across the ocean and parked itself off of our shore?

This ****head president gets elected on an American First promise, keeps doing the same damn thing that most of our past recent presidents have done, and the people that elected him are so gullible that they support him still because they're either too stupid or too proud (or both!) to admit they were wrong.
 
ax1 said:
They all point their fingers at each-other in public and behind closed doors they all feed the Military Industrial Complex. They all want wars. Almost every one of them are all the same.
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The US became a super power off the back of wars - it is why they continue them
 
Aleksandar37 said:
First, please consult a dictionary when using big words like "launder" because it makes you look just awful when you use them so horribly incorrectly. Second, you mean when our ships were in their waters?!?! They had every right to sink that ship, but you and Fox are categorizing them as the aggressor? What the hell do you think we would do if an Iranian ship came across the ocean and parked itself off of our shore?

This ****head president gets elected on an American First promise, keeps doing the same damn thing that most of our past recent presidents have done, and the people that elected him are so gullible that they support him still because they're either too stupid or too proud (or both!) to admit they were wrong.
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If you don't think he "laundered" the money, what do you call it? He knew he couldn't legally send that money in US dollars, so he "exchanged" them for pallets of foreign currency before he flew it to Iran. Again, you are attacking me, but can't refute the claim. How many times in history has the US sent money to anot her country on pallets instead of simply doing a wire transfer?
 
youngandfree said:
If you don't think he "laundered" the money, what do you call it? He knew he couldn't legally send that money in US dollars, so he "exchanged" them for pallets of foreign currency before he flew it to Iran. Again, you are attacking me, but can't refute the claim. How many times in history has the US sent money to anot her country on pallets instead of simply doing a wire transfer?
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The US has laundered so much money, arms and drugs throughout history and there was so much laundering of the laundering of the laundering it impossible to count it all. I know what your talking about w/ Iran and I dont like it, but thats just protocol. If they wire transfer it and need to cover it up they will just shoot out the the server and whoever runs it. Just like they did on 9/11 in the pentagon and shot it with a missile and pinpointed the server holding the data to cover up the missing unaccounted 1.3 trillion of military industrial complex spending that has never been bought up since Rumsfeld announced the missing money on 9/10. Or simply keep quiet when a rare partial audit (first since 1913 in 2009 the first year the Fed was created!!!!) the Fed shows 16 trillion of secret under-reported overseas (who? who the f' knows, they refuse to disclose it!) bailouts in 2008. Nothing to see here folks!!! Iran was just Barry Soetoro's petty cash stashed in his pillow...ROFL!!!
 
youngandfree said:
If you don't think he "laundered" the money, what do you call it? He knew he couldn't legally send that money in US dollars, so he "exchanged" them for pallets of foreign currency before he flew it to Iran. Again, you are attacking me, but can't refute the claim. How many times in history has the US sent money to anot her country on pallets instead of simply doing a wire transfer?
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Iran was still under sanctions (imposed by us) so they couldn't do business with banks outside of their country. How else were they supposed to get money under those sanctions other than physical delivery?
 
Misfit28 said:
Lol. Trump is in charge. Guess what? That means he is the Commander in Chief and he had to give the OK, not Democrats.

I guess now every time Trump does something, his supporters will say the Democrats did it.

That's rich!
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whoa, hang on old hoss...trump hasn't done anything YET...but it does seem like the democrats are encouraging him too.

the democrats and that old fool john McCain....McCain is still pissed at trump!!!
 
I wanted to share this with you guys...after 5 years of living like a Walmart employee I made the final payment on my loan today...I am officially debt free, I own everything-warehouse, trucks, mowers, weed eaters, blowers, car, my house-everything...I am freaking debt free!!!!
 
So Trump hasn't done anything as far as bombing or military operations in other sovereign countries?

Are you kidding me?
 
thebigt said:
I wanted to share this with you guys...after 5 years of living like a Walmart employee I made the final payment on my loan today...I am officially debt free, I own everything-warehouse, trucks, mowers, weed eaters, blowers, car, my house-everything...I am freaking debt free!!!!
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That's awesome, man! Good feeling I'll bet!
 
Misfit28 said:
So Trump hasn't done anything as far as bombing or military operations in other sovereign countries?

Are you kidding me?
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I aint talkin bout that chicken**** stuff...im talkin bout shooting down a Russian jet or a pre-emptive strike on n.korea...
 
Misfit28 said:
That's awesome, man! Good feeling I'll bet!
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by living like a pauper for the last 5 years and paying off loans early I've saved tens of thousands of dollars in interest...thank you, it feels fantastic!!!

top o the world ma!!!
 
thebigt said:
whoa, hang on old hoss...trump hasn't done anything YET...but it does seem like the democrats are encouraging him too.

the democrats and that old fool john McCain....McCain is still pissed at trump!!!
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I thought I was hoss! Seriously though, name one single thing that Trump has done because Democrats told him to. He has intentionally been doing everything to counter Democrats including trying to reverse stuff set by the last administration. Claiming that he is going to be influenced by Democrats is setting up a cop out when he fails.
 
thebigt said:
by living like a pauper for the last 5 years and paying off loans early I've saved tens of thousands of dollars in interest...thank you, it feels fantastic!!!

top o the world ma!!!
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Awesome news! I got my student loan down to only 5 figures, so I should be where you are in another 400 years or so.
 
thebigt said:
I wanted to share this with you guys...after 5 years of living like a Walmart employee I made the final payment on my loan today...I am officially debt free, I own everything-warehouse, trucks, mowers, weed eaters, blowers, car, my house-everything...I am freaking debt free!!!!
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Awesome!!!!!!! Dump is working wonders in domestic policy!!!! LOL

Really congrats, this is a good day for you!
 
Aleksandar37 said:
Awesome news! I got my student loan down to only 5 figures, so I should be where you are in another 400 years or so.
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How do you feel about your loans now that NY now has 100% tuition free 2-4 year college for middle class families and individuals who make up to $125,000? And lets pretend your from NY?
 
Misfit28 said:
So Trump hasn't done anything as far as bombing or military operations in other sovereign countries?

Are you kidding me?
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Dont forget heavily arming terrorist organizations such as the Saudi Royal Family who are currently murdering 10s of thousands of innocent people in Yemen and are on a brink of genocide and famine due to their blockade of the country. Actually, we are raiding them too!
 
ax1 said:
How do you feel about your loans now that NY now has 100% tuition free 2-4 year college for middle class families and individuals who make up to $125,000? And lets pretend your from NY?
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I knew what I was getting into and am not going to expect anybody else to pay them except me. If NY wants to try that experiment, best of luck.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
I thought I was hoss! Seriously though, name one single thing that Trump has done because Democrats told him to. He has intentionally been doing everything to counter Democrats including trying to reverse stuff set by the last administration. Claiming that he is going to be influenced by Democrats is setting up a cop out when he fails.
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In terms of foreign policy he seems for the most part just continuing everything the democrats wanted and supported. Not everything, but big military industrial complex the stuff is just about right there.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
I knew what I was getting into and am not going to expect anybody else to pay them except me. If NY wants to try that experiment, best of luck.
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Well, "NY wants" as in the few pockets of liberals living in heavily densely populated areas are the ones supporting that. It sucks, l am not "expected" to help pay for them, I have to pay for them against my will while Im still paying off my own student loans for the same schooling, lol

I feel it devalues my degree as well.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
I thought I was hoss! Seriously though, name one single thing that Trump has done because Democrats told him to. He has intentionally been doing everything to counter Democrats including trying to reverse stuff set by the last administration. Claiming that he is going to be influenced by Democrats is setting up a cop out when he fails.
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how about tweets...the democrats keep throwing stuff at trump hoping he will take the bait. unfortunately the more trump tweets the more ammunition he gives them!!!

the democrats and dumbass McCain seem to be pushing trump to escalate things with both Russia and n.korea....the whole trump/collusion thing worked brilliantly for the democrats, trump would most likely have had far better relations with Russia if not for that.


you will always be big hoss, lol.
 
thebigt said:
how about tweets...the democrats keep throwing stuff at trump hoping he will take the bait. unfortunately the more trump tweets the more ammunition he gives them!!!

the democrats and dumbass McCain seem to be pushing trump to escalate things with both Russia and n.korea....the whole trump/collusion thing worked brilliantly for the democrats, trump would most likely have had far better relations with Russia if not for that.


you will always be big hoss, lol.
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What I've noticed, could be wrong I haven't looked into this at all, is the Democrats are a big reason for are current poor relationship with Russia. Putin saw Obama as a puzzy and dems accused Russia in the witch Hunt that is this rigged election bullsh!t I get that it goes MUCH deeper than that but I do think we would be better off right now with Russia if #1 Dems didn't falsely blame Russia and #2 didn't spend 8 years viewing are leader as a puzzy. Again I've done literally no digging into this so this is 100% opinionated.
 
rtmilburn said:
What I've noticed, could be wrong I haven't looked into this at all, is the Democrats are a big reason for are current poor relationship with Russia. Putin saw Obama as a ***** and dems accused Russia in the witch Hunt that is this rigged election bull****. I get that I goes MUCH deeper than that but I do think we would be better off right now with Russia if #1 Dems didn't falsely blame Russia and #2 didn't spend 8 years viewing are leader as a *****
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I have come to the conclusion the whole trump/Russia thing is nothing more than a democratic scheme to keep trump on the defensive and diverted from implementing his policies...I am now convinced it was a democratic plot from the start---if there were any evidence it would have been front page of nytimes/Washington post 20 minutes after it was discovered.
 
thebigt said:
I have come to the conclusion the whole trump/Russia thing is nothing more than a democratic scheme to keep trump on the defensive and diverted from implementing his policies...I am now convinced it was a democratic plot from the start---if there were any evidence it would have been front page of nytimes/Washington post 20 minutes after it was discovered.
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IMPEACH!!!
Why?
IDK JUST IMPEACH!!!!
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thebigt said:
I have come to the conclusion the whole trump/Russia thing is nothing more than a democratic scheme to keep trump on the defensive and diverted from implementing his policies...I am now convinced it was a democratic plot from the start---if there were any evidence it would have been front page of nytimes/Washington post 20 minutes after it was discovered.
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exactly!!!!!!!!!
 
rtmilburn said:
What I've noticed, could be wrong I haven't looked into this at all, is the Democrats are a big reason for are current poor relationship with Russia. Putin saw Obama as a puzzy and dems accused Russia in the witch Hunt that is this rigged election bullsh!t I get that it goes MUCH deeper than that but I do think we would be better off right now with Russia if #1 Dems didn't falsely blame Russia and #2 didn't spend 8 years viewing are leader as a puzzy. Again I've done literally no digging into this so this is 100% opinionated.
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So we're going to ignore four decades of cold war and pretend that poor relations started within the last 8 years? ok...
 
Aleksandar37 said:
So we're going to ignore four decades of cold war and pretend that poor relations started within the last 8 years? ok...
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No not what I said. As I said it goes much deeper but I feel it was improving since bill was in office. Then stagnant if not slightly worse during the Obama administration. Then false blame re-ignited the flame.
 
Misfit28 said:
Haha, so true. It's all Obama's fault, didn't you know?
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Nope not all. The roots lie much deeper. Especially since the cold war was lies by the USA imo. All to justify the spending and regain economic dominance. But we can't deny that Putin did see Obama as a puss. His administration isn't the reason why the tension is high. It is the false blame.
 
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