Donald Trump running for president
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ax1
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From 85-89 when they did take stats and released them to the public 30% of all rape cases came from non-nordic immigrant backgrounds which is an alarming disproportion compared to their overall small population %. Im not saying what that means but its there for us to know.
ax1
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I might be stopping in Ikea on Thursday. Now...what I dont understand is that when I went in there 3 months ago they had NOOO more swedish chocolate, instead carried a full line of Italian chocolate. Now I dont eat that crap but my wife was seriously disappointed. WTF? Italian chocolate in Ikea???? BTW in China they have Swedish Beers and hard liquor for sale in their grocery section. Im not sure if there are Ikea's in Tenn...but maybe you found that interesting.
ax1
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I was posting this stuff a week or two ago before Dump saw my post the other day and plagiarized me. I made "fake news" and "rigged elections" trendy for years here way before Dump. Im ahead of him, he really doesnt impress me when it comes to this stuff. He is either really holding back or just isnt as informed as I am.
thebigt
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yup...I don't care if he likes being called a politician or not, but trump like every other politician lies....
Aleksandar37
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don't even get me going on that thing. People kept saying they liked him because he wasn't a politician. Mother****er is running for the highest damn office there is...I think he's a politician now lol
thebigt
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no doubt...but I can't understand the uproar when a politician lies, every politician like every person will on occasion at least stretch the truth.
I support trump but I'm not going to say I agree with everything he says or does, that would be dumb, lol.
ax1
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I dont think these polls have any meaning to them atm....Dump doesnt even have is cabinet completed. Not enough time has passed. At least 17% of the people DO have a clue lol. Ill be a broken record again but a good judgment would be that first 100 days plan he released to the public and how much he pushed to get that plan through.
Another point is, 40% non-supporters probably voted very close to 100% for a bad approval anyways...these people would vote the same no matter what. What do the 60% of his supporters actually feel because the other 40% isnt really significant meaning.
The approval #'s would probably be 95%+ if you only polled Dumpster supporters.
Misfit28
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Of course you don't.
This is from TN, a Republican stronghold.
There's a point to skepticism, then there's the point where you leave healthy skepticism behind and just become obstinate and obtuse.
It wouldn't have any real meaning or possibility of being close to a representative sample if you polled only Trump supporters. I think you don't know how polling works.
ax1
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Yeah they are usually either rigged, biased or straight out retarded.
ax1
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Yes and have sponsored a few far more meaningful ones than the one you just posted. For example
Are you an alien?
Yes
No
And
If you were a hot dog, and you were starving, would you eat yourself?
Yes
No
And the most interesting one,
Have you broken a pencil in half just for fun?
Yes
No
Aleksandar37
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I have and wouldn't recommend relying on them too much. Most polls only tell you who was willing to participate in the poll lol. Also, if polls were never wrong, we'd be talking about President Hillary right now.
Misfit28
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It's a fair point, I'll admit. This poll seemed to be more representative than most I've seen. That's why it piqued my interest.
There is another factor at play here, though, IMO. I would think that the "hidden" Trump voters are either a. More likely to be accurately counted in this poll and/or b. Wouldn't be "hidden" anymore, as Trump was elected. My thoughts, anyway.
Jiigzz
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But this doesn't fit the rhetoric that imigrants are sexual deviants! It therefore cannot be true
thebigt
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it says the polling was done statewide, I would be interested in knowing how it was divided statewide. it is much easier to conduct polls in large cities versus rural areas. in larger cities folks seem to be more 'conservative' about their support of trump. go to the smaller cities/towns and rural areas and you will see much more vocal support for trump!!! at least that is how it is here in Indiana....I really believe that is why the polls were so wrong on the general election, polling was conducted primarily in larger cities!!!
youngandfree
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So a Huffpo writer in Norway had his post deleted by Huffpo after writing a story about failed imigration in Europe and Sweden in particular.
So a Huffpo writer in Norway had his post deleted by Huffpo after writing a story about failed imigration in Europe and Sweden in particular.
Aleksandar37
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What do you mean by hidden Trump voters?
Misfit28
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That's what I've heard as an explanation for the failed pre election polls. Either people not being polled or not admitting they were Trump voters.
Aleksandar37
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That was the major media stations trying to sell a story that finally bit them in the ass. Of course the best way for them to try and safe face is to make up conspiracy theories about hidden Trump voters or blaming it on Russia so they can keep doing what they've been doing which is creating news rather than just reporting it.
muscleupcrohn
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It does seem possible that a decent number of people didn't want to say that they were voting for or supporting Trump before the election, perhaps because of potential backlash and/or criticism/insults they may have gotten from their friends/family/peers, considering that some people said that anyone who voted for Trump is racist/sexist/etc.
Aleksandar37
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True. I'm not saying nobody lied to pollsters or even changed their mind when it came time to vote, but for it to be as widespread as it was? The media took a lot of things for granted and ignored huge populations of people. And as much as I hate Trump and his team, they did a great job using the media to their advantage.
ax1
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I highly disagree that most of the media was ignoring anything, I think it was more so they were trying to steer the ship of the entire election.
Aleksandar37
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ax1
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Well I agree with that, they dont want to tell the story accurately, their obligation is to the corporation/financiers and by law CIA and to simply tell people what they should be thinking and not question the official story.
Places like CNN is where you go to work and check your coat you also check your opinion.
youngandfree
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ax1
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HAHA I saw that video a couple of days ago, from the same place that said that your children dont belong to you. I guess I can give them some credit for being honest about their beliefs and job descriptions.
Aleksandar37
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You don't trust the Russian news source? lol
ax1
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Their job is easy....just report what CiaNN along with most other mainstream media won't. Their domestic affairs is surely slightly altered of course.
ax1
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Got beef with Larry King!??!! How dare you!
ax1
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Shock: Man Who Helped Funnel Chinese Money to Clinton Made ‘insurance policy’ Video Fearing Assassination
A former fundraiser for the Clintons drops the hammer in secret tell-all video
Shepard Ambellas | Infowars.com - February 25, 2017
Author and historian Doug Wead recently got his hands on bombshell video footage which shows Bill Clinton’s former money man Johnny Chung spilling the beans on a deal he helped facilitate between the former US president and the Chinese back in 1996.
Chung shot the video in 2000 as an insurance policy amidst fears he would be assassinated for his knowledge of “China-gate.”
The Chinese-American businessman gave details of the illegal operation on film, before it was duplicated and distributed to his close friends and family members in a secret video.
In the shocking admission, Chung said the F.B.I. tried to co-opt him to be in a sting operation against a top-level Chinese official.
According to Chung, the F.B.I. asked him to punch the Chinese official in the mouth at the Los Angeles International Airport. In the op, Chung was supposed to have blood applied to his mouth just before physically pointing his finger at the official for reasons unstated.
Chung also said just days before his grand jury testimony that his around-the-clock F.B.I. protection was abruptly called off.
“They could care less about my personal safety, they told me to call 911 if I felt threatened,” Chung stated.
In all Chung made 49 visits to the White House during Bill Clinton’s presidency between 1994 and 1996, firmly establishing his ties to the scandal.
According to testimony given to the U.S. House Committee investigating the matter in 1999, the money came from Chinese Gen. Ji Shengde.
Leading up to the transfer of funds, Shengde reportedly Invalid Link Removed:
“We like your president very much. We would like to see him re-elected. I will give you 300,000 U.S. dollars. You can give it to the president and the Democrat Party.”
In a plea deal, Chung was sentenced to five years of probation along with community service for his role in “China-gate.”
The shocking admission ended up in the hands of Doug Wead before he authored the book “Game of Thorns,” which further allowed him to establish proof of Chinese influence in Washington.
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A former fundraiser for the Clintons drops the hammer in secret tell-all video
Shepard Ambellas | Infowars.com - February 25, 2017
Author and historian Doug Wead recently got his hands on bombshell video footage which shows Bill Clinton’s former money man Johnny Chung spilling the beans on a deal he helped facilitate between the former US president and the Chinese back in 1996.
Chung shot the video in 2000 as an insurance policy amidst fears he would be assassinated for his knowledge of “China-gate.”
The Chinese-American businessman gave details of the illegal operation on film, before it was duplicated and distributed to his close friends and family members in a secret video.
In the shocking admission, Chung said the F.B.I. tried to co-opt him to be in a sting operation against a top-level Chinese official.
According to Chung, the F.B.I. asked him to punch the Chinese official in the mouth at the Los Angeles International Airport. In the op, Chung was supposed to have blood applied to his mouth just before physically pointing his finger at the official for reasons unstated.
Chung also said just days before his grand jury testimony that his around-the-clock F.B.I. protection was abruptly called off.
“They could care less about my personal safety, they told me to call 911 if I felt threatened,” Chung stated.
In all Chung made 49 visits to the White House during Bill Clinton’s presidency between 1994 and 1996, firmly establishing his ties to the scandal.
According to testimony given to the U.S. House Committee investigating the matter in 1999, the money came from Chinese Gen. Ji Shengde.
Leading up to the transfer of funds, Shengde reportedly Invalid Link Removed:
“We like your president very much. We would like to see him re-elected. I will give you 300,000 U.S. dollars. You can give it to the president and the Democrat Party.”
In a plea deal, Chung was sentenced to five years of probation along with community service for his role in “China-gate.”
The shocking admission ended up in the hands of Doug Wead before he authored the book “Game of Thorns,” which further allowed him to establish proof of Chinese influence in Washington.
Invalid Link Removed is an opinion journalist and the founder and editor-in-chief of Intellihub News & Politics (Invalid Link Removed). Shepard is also known for producing Invalid Link Removed (2013) and appearing on Travel Channel’s Invalid Link Removed (2013). Shepard is a regular contributor to Invalid Link Removed. Read more from Invalid Link Removed. Get the Invalid Link Removed. Follow Shep on Invalid Link Removed and Invalid Link Removed.
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Misfit28
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Of course, it's very possible to be racist and not realize it. People seem to forget that, it's not all conscious bigotry.
muscleupcrohn
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It's also very possible that people voted for Trump for any of several non-racist/bigoted reasons, including but not limited to wanting anyone but Hillary and liking the "idea of Trump," or the idea of a "non-politician" to break the status quo that was Bush and Obama, without really focusing on his actual platform and beliefs. Not everything is black and white, pun somewhat intended.
Aleksandar37
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Every single person that walks this Earth has a bias. Are you honestly saying that the only reason to vote for Trump was racism?
Misfit28
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You're reading too much into my comment.
Aleksandar37
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I'm asking you to clarify your comment. If you refuse to, I have no choice but to fill in the blanks myself.
Misfit28
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The point that everyone has bias is pretty irrelevant IMO. By saying that, it basically gives everyone a free pass because they can say everyone else is biased as well. That's BS IMO. In the past, I found myself espousing some racist beliefs based on my upbringing. However, I recognized it for what it was and confronted my own prejudices.
My point is that some of the people who claim to not be racist, may not even realize they are.
I'm not saying all Trump supporters are racists. Some are vocal and upfront about that, which I actually respect more. At least with them you know what you're getting. Some are not vocally racist, and some are not at all.
I also believe there are many racist liberals.
Aleksandar37
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Everybody does have a bias. I'm not saying that to validate anybody or any group's biased views. It's a fairly simple fact and was in response to you saying that some people might not fully realize they are racist. And can we please use a more universal term like bigoted pr prejudiced, rather than racist please? Racist has become a conversation-ending word because people think they're educated due to being a member of facebook. I'm sick of seeing a conversation between two people--one of them white, one of them not white (pick a race)--go something like this. The non-white person states that it's impossible for them to be racist and the conversation tends to end with no resolution whether either one of them knows why other than social media told them that only white people can be racist.
But back to my original post that you responded to. I'm talking about the group of white males who have for most of their lives gone out of their way to support their friends who are of different races, religions, and sexual orientations. I'm not talking about the people with one token black or gay friend. I'm talking about white males who are legit open minded and have even voted against their own self interest to help their friends or simply to just be a good person and do what they thought was right. However, that group of people has been watching the news and social media talk about white males as racists in very general terms. They've even witnessed their own friends posting articles and memes that portray white males in general as racists. I'm talking about that group of people who finally said screw it, why am I voting to help people that are grouping me together with what used to be a common enemy? They never asked for a thank you or a trophy, they were just good people and now they're being **** on, so why continue to vote in that direction if it doesn't help them? That's the group I'm talking about and have seen it happen in several people that I know and who I always thought of as very open minded and good people. That group has been and continues to be ignored by the media, but they sure as hell voted this election.
Or maybe there are white males who are not racist, but didn't want to vote for somebody that played a large part in the genocide of a whole lot of Serbians.
ax1
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ax1
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Swedish policeman blames migrants for the majority of country’s rapes and shootings and accuses politicians of ‘turning a blind eye’
Earlier this month Peter Springare, who has spent more than 40 years in the police, aired his anger on social media when he was told not to record the ethnicity of violent crime suspects.
Springare, 61, who is based in the central city of Orebro, wrote: ‘Countries representing the weekly crimes: Iraq, Iraq, Turkey, Syria, Afghanistan, Somalia, Somalia, Syria again, Somalia, unknown, unknown country, Sweden.
‘Half of the suspects, we can’t be sure because they don’t have any valid papers. Which in itself usually means that they’re lying about your nationality and identity.’
Prosecutors launched an inquiry, suggesting he had incited racial hatred, but later dropped the charges.
Now Springare has told Invalid Link Removed: ‘The highest and most extreme violence – rapes and shooting – is dominated by criminal immigrants.
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- 'Half of the suspects, we can't be sure because they don't have any valid papers.'
- ‘The highest and most extreme violence – rapes and shooting – is dominated by criminal immigrants.'
- A Swedish detective who has triggered a row by blaming violent crime on migrants has gone one step further and accused politicians of turning a blind eye to the problem because of ‘political correctness’.
Earlier this month Peter Springare, who has spent more than 40 years in the police, aired his anger on social media when he was told not to record the ethnicity of violent crime suspects.
Springare, 61, who is based in the central city of Orebro, wrote: ‘Countries representing the weekly crimes: Iraq, Iraq, Turkey, Syria, Afghanistan, Somalia, Somalia, Syria again, Somalia, unknown, unknown country, Sweden.
‘Half of the suspects, we can’t be sure because they don’t have any valid papers. Which in itself usually means that they’re lying about your nationality and identity.’
Prosecutors launched an inquiry, suggesting he had incited racial hatred, but later dropped the charges.
Now Springare has told Invalid Link Removed: ‘The highest and most extreme violence – rapes and shooting – is dominated by criminal immigrants.
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