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thebigt said:
well, for one why aren't they going to wealthy arab/muslim states where they would fit in much better?

on the other hand, once they come here the chances of them returning are very slim, I really think if we invested the money required[and appropriate protection] that refugee camps would be a viable option, once the fighting is over we could invest in helping them re-build their country-it wouldn't be the 1st time.
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Fit in better, huh?

Jesus man.
 
Jiigzz said:
Imagine being in their shoes, your country is torn apart by the very people you are seeking asylum from. IMO the US owes it to foreign countries it invades and ultimately destroys/ severely disrupts (sometimes on sketchy grounds as is the case with Iraq).

I don't mind it, personally from those who have no other choice. I do mind it when people come here (much like you would) illegally.
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But many of us didnt support any of these wars, foreign entanglements and regime changesin the first place, so we still owe the right to both not let them in and throw Obama/Congress in prison for war crimes. Hope you can see that point of view.

Personally, if it was me Id get Obama and any politician that supported all these wars and dump them there. Deport them outta here, serious.
 
Misfit28 said:
Fit in better, huh?

Jesus man.
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culture, language, traditions.....how about that is where theirs roots are, where they come from, their birthplace-I understand this completely, I am surprised you do not!!!

exactly the way I would feel about this country if for some reason I were forced to leave...in my heart I would always be American 1st and foremost!!!
 
Misfit28 said:
Out of curiosity, what position are we talking about?
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What job position? She worked in the ER registration. What's there to be curious about? The entire part time classified staff lost hours and we're classified as PRN, which means "as needed basis" in the medical field.
 
thebigt said:
well, for one why aren't they going to wealthy arab/muslim states where they would fit in much better?

on the other hand, once they come here the chances of them returning are very slim, I really think if we invested the money required[and appropriate protection] that refugee camps would be a viable option, once the fighting is over we could invest in helping them re-build their country-it wouldn't be the 1st time.
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Saudi Arabia supports all these wars and they dont take a single refugee. They have an empty air conditioned tent city that can home 100,000 but then they refuse to take them in and help them and then tell us what to do.
 
ax1 said:
But many of us didnt support any of these wars, foreign entanglements and regime changesin the first place, so we still owe the right to both not let them in and throw Obama/Congress in prison for war crimes. Hope you can see that point of view.

Personally, if it was me Id get Obama and any politician that supported all these wars and dump them there. Deport them outta here, serious.
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most of this shyt Obama did on his own without even congress being involved!!!
 
thebigt said:
most of this shyt Obama did on his own without even congress being involved!!!
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True....we can throw in Hitlery since she was secretary of state, the Secretary of Defense for illegally taking orders from NATO, etc...plenty to throw in in the middle of ISIS. Hey, they should welcome them with open arms over there, after all they armed them!
 
thebigt said:
culture, language, traditions.....how about that is where theirs roots are, where they come from, their birthplace-I understand this completely, I am surprised you do not!!!

exactly the way I would feel about this country if for some reason I were forced to leave...in my heart I would always be American 1st and foremost!!!
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Of course I understand that.

Maybe they're tired of getting the crap bombed out of them?

So only people who speak English and share our religion and other cultural aspects can legally immigrate to America?
 
ax1 said:
But many of us didnt support any of these wars, foreign entanglements and regime changesin the first place, so we still owe the right to both not let them in and throw Obama/Congress in prison for war crimes. Hope you can see that point of view.

Personally, if it was me Id get Obama and any politician that supported all these wars and dump them there. Deport them outta here, serious.
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Definitely! Can understand this position as well no question.
 
Misfit28 said:
The problems in the Middle East started long before Obama or Hillary.
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But its all good cause Obama ended the afghan war in 2025!!! ROFL! How do you make this shyt up? Be a anti-war president and in the middle of launching new wars declare the end of Afghan war years AFTER he leaves office!
 
ax1 said:
Id be far more comfortable with government handling regulations if we would ban lobby and outlaw any type of financial incentives and donations to public servants along with stock rights, etc.... That is just not the case here in the USA.

More than often government regulations here suppress the smaller guy and eliminates the competition of the elite.
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To be fair, I forget how US politics works when I word my responses and how powerul lobby groups are. In that case, I can understand the skepticism you have of govt when groups like these have a lot of control.
 
Post WWII some would say is when issues began with regard to the USA and the Islamic state of affairs.

Of course the issues date back before the USA was a country. We are relatively young as a Nation.

I must also take issue with some vernacular being used. I would never say Drump or Hitlery. It's seriously childish. Grow up.
 
justhere4comm said:
Post WWII some would say is when issues began with regard to the USA and the Islamic state of affairs.

Of course the issues date back before the USA was a country. We are relatively young as a Nation.

I must also take issue with some vernacular being used. I would never say Drump or Hitlery. It's seriously childish. Grow up.
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You attacked Trump's work experience and called him a man child. You don't want to talk about Obama's failures and lack of qualifications. If he was such a great Constitutional lawyer/scholar, why did he never publish any papers? Trump never held a job? That's just ignorant. Obama was a lawyer who had trouble keeping his law license, and he was a community organizor. What kind of job skills did that entail? That's right, perfecting Rules for Radicals to organize people to push forward liberal ideology and agenda at what ever the cost.
 
youngandfree said:
You attacked Trump's work experience and called him a man child. You don't want to talk about Obama's failures and lack of qualifications. If he was such a great Constitutional lawyer/scholar, why did he never publish any papers? Trump never held a job? That's just ignorant. Obama was a lawyer who had trouble keeping his law license, and he was a community organizor. What kind of job skills did that entail? That's right, perfecting Rules for Radicals to organize people to push forward liberal ideology and agenda at what ever the cost.
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Remember, Im not a Dump supporter (Im the guy waiting to see and give him a chance) but I certainly wish I had 1/16 of his work ethic, Id be in a much better position in life. That dude has a ferocious work ethic.
 
youngandfree said:
You attacked Trump's work experience and called him a man child. You don't want to talk about Obama's failures and lack of qualifications. If he was such a great Constitutional lawyer/scholar, why did he never publish any papers? Trump never held a job? That's just ignorant. Obama was a lawyer who had trouble keeping his law license, and he was a community organizor. What kind of job skills did that entail? That's right, perfecting Rules for Radicals to organize people to push forward liberal ideology and agenda at what ever the cost.
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Were you a community organizer before?

It not, you don't have a clue what you are even spouting off about.
 
Misfit28 said:
I guess I can't fathom your hatred for those of a different religion simply because of their origin and religion.

You really are alt right aren't you?
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Some things I cant stand, its not the religion as a whole but lets just say that when Im in a restaurant and I see a women needing to lift up her scarf off her face with every bite she eats so nobody can see her there is no respect I can give for that part of the culture.

Most muslims I know are just like the rest of us, get up, take a dump, drive to work, come back home, put food on the table, take a pee, sleep and next day repeat.
 
Misfit28 said:
I guess I can't fathom your hatred for those of a different religion simply because of their origin and religion.

You really are alt right aren't you?
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So if you were in a war torn country, and you had to flee, where would you go? To a country that has a majority of people with similar backgrounds, culture, and languages? Or would you rather go around the world to a country that predominantly speaks a different language, and has a belief ssystem diametrically opposed to your religious ideology? Stop being holier than everyone else and think about it from the refugee's perspective. I don't have hatred for people because of heir religion. I have a hatred for people that have a religion that hates me because of mine. It's a proven fact that many refugee groups have been filled with ISIS sympathizers.

I guess if you had to flee America, you'd rather take your family and go to a country further away where you can't understand or communicate or even relate with most people there, vs going to Canada, or any other predominantly English speaking country that has similar customs to ours.

Shake the sand out of your vag.
 
youngandfree said:
So if you were in a war torn country, and you had to flee, where would you go? To a country that has a majority of people with similar backgrounds, culture, and languages? Or would you rather go around the world to a country that predominantly speaks a different language, and has a belief ssystem diametrically opposed to your religious ideology? Stop being holier than everyone else and think about it from the refugee's perspective. I don't have hatred for people because of heir religion. I have a hatred for people that have a religion that hates me because of mine. It's a proven fact that many refugee groups have been filled with ISIS sympathizers.

I guess if you had to flee America, you'd rather take your family and go to a country further away where you can't understand or communicate or even relate with most people there, vs going to Canada, or any other predominantly English speaking country that has similar customs to ours.

Shake the sand out of your vag.
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You really are a keyboard warrior aren't you?
 
Misfit28 said:
Were you a community organizer before?

It not, you don't have a clue what you are even spouting off about.
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Since you're the all knowing enlightened anthropologist, why not educate us mere peasants. Obviously the justhere4comm doesn't know **** about what Trump's work history is either, yet he's the authority on it.
 
youngandfree said:
See you can't even argue against my stance about going to a country where muslims would be able to be more comfortable in their surroundings. You just want to be dick head. Like every other lib.
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No, it's simply not worth my time and energy to engage with you.

Go back to Trump world where everything fits your worldview.

Should I call you a "con" now? You know, the opposite of pro?
 
Misfit28;5629430[B said:
]Of course I understand that. [/B]

Maybe they're tired of getting the crap bombed out of them?

So only people who speak English and share our religion and other cultural aspects can legally immigrate to America?
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It's the same point I made. If you understand it, why did you dismiss it and just lob an insult. As an anthropologist, you should know how people with similar backgrounds and cultures tend to stick together.

Taking in refugees isn't exactly the same thing as someone wanting to immigrate here legally. Those fleeing Syria and seeking refugee status can be granted asylum in a country more suited to their customs and ideologies for the tenure of their refuge. There's nothing hateful about it.
 
youngandfree said:
It's the same point I made. If you understand it, why did you dismiss it and just lob an insult. As an anthropologist, you should know how people with similar backgrounds and cultures tend to stick together.

Taking in refugees isn't exactly the same thing as someone wanting to immigrate here legally. Those fleeing Syria and seeking refugee status can be granted asylum in a country more suited to their customs and ideologies for the tenure of their refuge. There's nothing hateful about it.
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Not working out in Europe well....cant just dump 100s of thousands into a foreign country with no cultural similarities, there certainly is going to be a hard assimilation period and it can be chaos.

Its just common sense not to do that, but government loves chaos and thats what they have.
 
youngandfree said:
It's the same point I made. If you understand it, why did you dismiss it and just lob an insult. As an anthropologist, you should know how people with similar backgrounds and cultures tend to stick together.

Taking in refugees isn't exactly the same thing as someone wanting to immigrate here legally. Those fleeing Syria and seeking refugee status can be granted asylum in a country more suited to their customs and ideologies for the tenure of their refuge. There's nothing hateful about it.
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I think I get what you're saying. I shouldn't have lashed out like that.

I can see that, it just seemed like you were so adamant simply because they are immigrants.
 
youngandfree said:
Since you're the all knowing enlightened anthropologist, why not educate us mere peasants. Obviously the justhere4comm doesn't know **** about what Trump's work history is either, yet he's the authority on it.
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Kind of like you're the authority on polar bear habitat and global warming, right?!
 
Yes. It's different to identify someone by characteristic such as "man child" due to their obvious and documented behaviors, but to call someone something related to a barbaric mass murderer of biblical proportions as "Hitler" in the way of "Hitlery"

I find is ridiculous; incredulous; childish, and an insult to the millions of people incinerated by that evil mother-fu-cker. Hillary may be one of the privileged I speak of whom can call themselves in the same company as Trump, but I don't think I like either of the two.

Now, I'm going to resume my marathon of "The Curse of Oak Island" until I fall asleep. I'm an old man and need my rest.
 
rtmilburn said:
Not really it started when Islam was created
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to be clear I am looking at iran as the 1st islamic state....when carter turned his back on the shah, Islamic clerics took control of the country. I can't help but wonder how things would have turned out had carter supported the shah. I am pretty well informed on this subject as I was in the military during the hostage crisis.
 
Jiigzz said:
People and corporations have shown repeatedly they cannot regulate themselves. Noone will take responsibility for their actions unless forced to.

Unless the govt supported having national parks, those areas would have been mined to the ground. Who will stop them if not a govt? Definitely not the people.

Deforestation? The mining of Antartica? Overfishing? All industrys have regulations that get tighter and tighter due to corporations pushing the boundarys on what they should be doing. The fish population around certain areas have declined DRASTICALLY, and would be much worse if the govt didn't have in place regulations to prevent this. Fish size, quota limits and constant enforcement by govt agencies are allowing fish populations to regrow.

People will not self regulate. it is foolish to think we are capable of that
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What proof do you have that people can't self regulate businesses or corporations? For people to actually self regulate there must not be any other outside interference that makes self regulating ineffective.
 
justhere4comm said:
Yes. It's different to identify someone by characteristic such as "man child" due to their obvious and documented behaviors, but to call someone something related to a barbaric mass murderer of biblical proportions as "Hitler" in the way of "Hitlery"

I find is ridiculous; incredulous; childish, and an insult to the millions of people incinerated by that evil mother-fu-cker. Hillary may be one of the privileged I speak of whom can call themselves in the same company as Trump, but I don't think I like either of the two.

Now, I'm going to resume my marathon of "The Curse of Oak Island" until I fall asleep. I'm an old man and need my rest.
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Hitlery isnt excactly like Hitler, certainly not close, but she is set in stone a mass murdering war mongering genocidalist terrorist, that is 100% a true indisputable historical fact.
 
thebigt said:
to be clear I am looking at iran as the 1st islamic state....when carter turned his back on the shah, Islamic clerics took control of the country. I can't help but wonder how things would have turned out had carter supported the shah. I am pretty well informed on this subject as I was in the military during the hostage crisis.
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I actually agree with you. I was more making a snarky comment
 
ax1 said:
Hitlery isnt excactly like Hitler, certainly not close, but she is set in stone a mass murdering war mongering genocidalist terrorist, that is 100% a true indisputable historical fact.
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She is a domestic terrorist as well.

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justhere4comm said:
Yes. It's different to identify someone by characteristic such as "man child" due to their obvious and documented behaviors, but to call someone something related to a barbaric mass murderer of biblical proportions as "Hitler" in the way of "Hitlery"

I find is ridiculous; incredulous; childish, and an insult to the millions of people incinerated by that evil mother-fu-cker. Hillary may be one of the privileged I speak of whom can call themselves in the same company as Trump, but I don't think I like either of the two.

Now, I'm going to resume my marathon of "The Curse of Oak Island" until I fall asleep. I'm an old man and need my rest.
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(note: these stats are based off of 2/2016 numbers...will be much higher by now)

Thanks Hitlery you humanitarian war criminal!

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The issue is that the majority of politicians are humanized unfairly while individuals corrupted systematically by a Marxist culture and welfare state are demonized.

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CJNator said:
The issue is that the majority of politicians are humanized unfairly while individuals corrupted systematically by a Marxist culture and welfare state are demonized.

Invalid Link Removed go around the 1 hour and 8 minutes mark to get to the point I'm making or watch the whole thing.
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God his statements at the end are living nightmares.
 
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