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josh ernest really laid out the case for trump being in cahoots with putin....so much for Obama wanting trump to succeed, lol!!!

That was hillarious..

Hey I wanna be friends with Putin, we dont have to love him or anything but he is no worse than China, Saudi Arabia, Natandimwits, etc.....The world needs Russia and USA having good relations, if it was me Id end all sactions yesterday. It was the USA the overthrew Ukrainian government illegally anyways and financed the civil war....there is so much FAKE NEWS on mainstream TV they are bound to go to extinction hopefully sooner than later. They are in complete PANIC MODE!
 
That was hillarious..

Hey I wanna be friends with Putin, we dont have to love him or anything but he is no worse than China, Saudi Arabia, Natandimwits, etc.....The world needs Russia and USA having good relations, if it was me Id end all sactions yesterday. It was the USA the overthrew Ukrainian government illegally anyways and financed the civil war....there is so much FAKE NEWS on mainstream TV they are bound to go to extinction hopefully sooner than later. They are in complete PANIC MODE!

I love it when they say putin and Russia are not our friends....hey wake up, it is not a very friendly world out there!!!

if you have common interest with a country and can work together for the common good OF BOTH COUNTRY'S it makes no sense not to do so!!!!
 
I mean c'mon...Obama made this huge deal with iran...are they not our enemy?

Pakistan is run by a tyrannical dictator and nato considers them a global partner.

the saudi's have horrible human rights issues yet we are their 'friend'?

the list is very long.......and complicated, nothing is simple in todays world!!!
 
That was hillarious..

Hey I wanna be friends with Putin, we dont have to love him or anything but he is no worse than China, Saudi Arabia, Natandimwits, etc.....The world needs Russia and USA having good relations, if it was me Id end all sactions yesterday. It was the USA the overthrew Ukrainian government illegally anyways and financed the civil war....there is so much FAKE NEWS on mainstream TV they are bound to go to extinction hopefully sooner than later. They are in complete PANIC MODE!
You and me both!
 
The war on our 1st Amendment is on....now Facebook is a private company, they can do whatever they want but this is just a small part of the whole of whats about to come.

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Mrs Future Ex First Lady needs to shut her pie hole.

She has joined the media in speaking for us and telling us what is and isn't.

This "conventional" and "traditional" government that has been running our country into financial, social and moral bankruptcy need to be put to rest once and for all.

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Interesting how with weeks left Obama grew a pair of balls and is calling out Putin. Obama is an assclown and Putin will be laughing him out of office. Nice job Barry!
 
Mrs Future Ex First Lady needs to shut her pie hole.

She has joined the media in speaking for us and telling us what is and isn't.

This "conventional" and "traditional" government that has been running our country into financial, social and moral bankruptcy need to be put to rest once and for all.

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Interesting how with weeks left Obama grew a pair of balls and is calling out Putin. Obama is an assclown and Putin will be laughing him out of office. Nice job Barry!
From the interview:
"He and I and so many believe that -- what else do you have if you don't have hope," the first lady added. "What do you give your kids if you can't give them hope?"

Hmm... maybe we can give them rights and freedoms, including the freedom to think for yourself and form your own opinions (something that neither side really encourages).
 
From the interview:
"He and I and so many believe that -- what else do you have if you don't have hope," the first lady added. "What do you give your kids if you can't give them hope?"

Hmm... maybe we can give them rights and freedoms, including the freedom to think for yourself and form your own opinions (something that neither side really encourages).
I'm challenged to find one thing that is better for me and my family in the last 8 years because of this hope.
 
I guess I'm not being fair. Had I hoped to marry my same sex partner be recognized as transgendered cross gendered and/or gendered reassigned (valid and valuable and important to a fringe minority) and watch my property value depreciate and pay double for less healthcare then there was something to this last 8 years of hope thing...
 
I'm challenged to find one thing that is better for me and my family in the last 8 years because of this hope.

She is and orifice for a urinary catheter, thats the best I can describe her. Id call her a Tranny but Joan already paid the ultimate price for that one.
 
they will definitely be asking trump what he would do with china....he needs to keep his mouth shut and say he doesn't want to say anything that would jeopardize what Obama is going to do....obviously Obama isn't going to do anything, but if trump opens his mouth then Obama can put the spotlight back on trump by criticizing trumps play. Obama is a clever fool.
 
they will definitely be asking trump what he would do with china....he needs to keep his mouth shut and say he doesn't want to say anything that would jeopardize what Obama is going to do....obviously Obama isn't going to do anything, but if trump opens his mouth then Obama can put the spotlight back on trump by criticizing trumps play. Obama is a clever fool.

So true! I hope Trump is only saying "so much" until actually in office.
 
CIA meddled in ‘hundreds’ of elections: Ron Paul on “Russia-blaming”

Paul describes the shadow government in cahoots with the major media

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US government “propagandists” push for a foreign policy of “intervening around the world,” former presidential candidate and founder of the Institute for Peace and Prosperity, Dr. Ron Paul, told RT in a wide-ranging interview that also touched on Syria.

Following reports that former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton blamed Russian President Vladimir Putin for personally directing a cyberattack that cost her the 2016 presidential election, Dr. Paul shrugged off the allegations as a “fiasco” in an interview with RT’s Neil Harvey.



“I think they’re just agitating, because they lost the election. They’re throwing out accusations and they have no proof,”
the former Republican congressman for Texas said.

“The same people who are making all these charges, they didn’t seem to be worried a bit by the secretary of state having a private server,” Paul said, “which made it much easier for Russia or anybody else to know what was going on.”

Paul, a libertarian advocate of a foreign policy of non-intervention, went on to explain that ideally, the US should not have to worry about any other country having an incentive to interfere in US elections. The root of the problem, Paul believes, is in the US government doing the exact thing it now accuses Russia of doing.

“The American people should be worried about the influence of our CIA in other people’s elections, I mean probably hundreds. It’s constant,” he said, even going as far as to allude to “domestic assassinations” the CIA has allegedly taken part in.

Paul then brought his two points together in describing a sort of shadow government in cahoots with the major media, saying that the anti-Russian narrative was being promulgated in order to “amplify the arguments between Republicans and Democrats,” which he discounted as political theater.

“Our government doesn’t change a whole lot,” Paul explained. “The people, who behind the scenes control the government, are always the same. And I consider that to be the case in most governments.”

“The propagandists are on the side of the people who want us to be intervening around the world, and I imagine that because Trump has suggested maybe we ought to do a little bit less of that, maybe they don’t like that idea, and they want to discredit him for that approach,” Paul said.

Moving to the matter of “fake news,” another controversial issue heating up after the November election result, Paul was asked about Facebook unrolling a new policy of fact-checking, potentially pushing down news stories in its News Feed.

“If it’s a private organization,” Paul said, “they have a right to monitor. And they probably will make mistakes, but that is so much different than when a company like Facebook works with the government. That’s where the real danger is.”
 
“The propagandists are on the side of the people who want us to be intervening around the world, and I imagine that because Trump has suggested maybe we ought to do a little bit less of that, maybe they don’t like that idea, and they want to discredit him for that approach,” Paul said.
our government doesn't want us minding our own business because we might actually mind the business they are up to.
 
I would actually have respect for Hillary if she admitted that she messed up, but all I've heard is excuses like it's the FBI's fault or it's the Russian's fault. It's all crap.
 
I would actually have respect for Hillary if she admitted that she messed up, but all I've heard is excuses like it's the FBI's fault or it's the Russian's fault. It's all crap.

They just steer the ship and instead of having Hitlery get the blame from the media or Hitlery blame herself for her own problems its the Russians fault that everyone know what a crooked evil corrupt witch she and the DNC are. Pure psychops, the CIA it totally involved and they legally have the authority to do so. Now thats fake news.
 
So what are your thoughts on the Fed raising interest rates and saying they will raise them 3 times next year? Ive been saving to tey and buy another house next year, but theres no way I'll be able to start the process till at least summer. Im curious where mortgage rates will be by the time i can actually apply for one. They're basing their justification on the false unemployment number and the artificially inflated stock market. I think the stock market reacting to Trump's win is genuine, but it shouldn't have been as high as it has been previous. Using the stock market numbers as an indicator of overall economic health is absurd. Look at the lack of GDP growth and the labor force participation rate.

Is Yellen going to raise the rates and hope to sabotage Trump when reality comes knocking and the bubble bursts? Unfortunately she will be there till 2018.
 
So what are your thoughts on the Fed raising interest rates and saying they will raise them 3 times next year? Ive been saving to tey and buy another house next year, but theres no way I'll be able to start the process till at least summer. Im curious where mortgage rates will be by the time i can actually apply for one. They're basing their justification on the false unemployment number and the artificially inflated stock market. I think the stock market reacting to Trump's win is genuine, but it shouldn't have been as high as it has been previous. Using the stock market numbers as an indicator of overall economic health is absurd. Look at the lack of GDP growth and the labor force participation rate.

Is Yellen going to raise the rates and hope to sabotage Trump when reality comes knocking and the bubble bursts? Unfortunately she will be there till 2018.

There is nothing more artificial than quantum easing, thanks Fed and Obama! Now that's fake news!!!!
 
They just steer the ship and instead of having Hitlery get the blame from the media or Hitlery blame herself for her own problems its the Russians fault that everyone know what a crooked evil corrupt witch she and the DNC are. Pure psychops, the CIA it totally involved and they legally have the authority to do so. Now thats fake news.

And then to put Pelosi back in as House minority leader?! Did the democrats not just watch the same presidential election? It's insane. It's two parties throwing a piece of **** at a wall every 4 years and seeing which one will stick. I was hoping the results of this election would be the rock bottom that the democratic party needed to change, but apparently not.
 
And then to put Pelosi back in as House minority leader?! Did the democrats not just watch the same presidential election? It's insane. It's two parties throwing a piece of **** at a wall every 4 years and seeing which one will stick. I was hoping the results of this election would be the rock bottom that the democratic party needed to change, but apparently not.

My wife, a life long democrat, even said the same. It was basically "have they learned nothing?"
 
So today is the day we find out if the Electoral College fulfills it's duty or not. Anyone want to place bets on how it goes

I expect most will vote as they're supposed to with a few exceptions of people who simply want attention or to make some sort of protest. That said, nothing surprises me anymore.
 
I expect most will vote as they're supposed to with a few exceptions of people who simply want attention or to make some sort of protest. That said, nothing surprises me anymore.

don't be so sure that nothing surprises you anymore....I have the feeling that the anti-trumper's aren't thru yet!!!!
 
looks like Obama's buddy merkel is in some hot water over her failed immigration policies.....remember, Hillary had planned to let 10's of thousands of immigrants into our country that the intelligence community has admitted could not be properly vetted.


Obama plans to stay active in politics, this is fine...I only hope he is held accountable for all the pardons he is handing out. if these convicted criminals who were given sentences by our judicial system go out and commit violent crimes the blood should be on Obama's hands.
 
looks like Obama's buddy merkel is in some hot water over her failed immigration policies.....remember, Hillary had planned to let 10's of thousands of immigrants into our country that the intelligence community has admitted could not be properly vetted.


Obama plans to stay active in politics, this is fine...I only hope he is held accountable for all the pardons he is handing out. if these convicted criminals who were given sentences by our judicial system go out and commit violent crimes the blood should be on Obama's hands.
His pardons have reached historical level.

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/politics/270324-donald-trump-running-509.html#post5564616
 
looks like Obama's buddy merkel is in some hot water over her failed immigration policies.....remember, Hillary had planned to let 10's of thousands of immigrants into our country that the intelligence community has admitted could not be properly vetted.


Obama plans to stay active in politics, this is fine...I only hope he is held accountable for all the pardons he is handing out. if these convicted criminals who were given sentences by our judicial system go out and commit violent crimes the blood should be on Obama's hands.

You know that if Trump gets rid of DACA it will cost SS and Medicare billions from the workers it deports. Remember, these were children when they entered the US. They didn't have a choice.
 
Also, where's all the swamp draining? Looks like he's adding to it to me. The number of millionaires and billionaires is staggering, not to mention their ties to big banks and Wall Street.
 
looks like Obama's buddy merkel is in some hot water over her failed immigration policies.....remember, Hillary had planned to let 10's of thousands of immigrants into our country that the intelligence community has admitted could not be properly vetted.


Obama plans to stay active in politics, this is fine...I only hope he is held accountable for all the pardons he is handing out. if these convicted criminals who were given sentences by our judicial system go out and commit violent crimes the blood should be on Obama's hands.

They aren't all "pardons". Just for the record, I looked at the list and no murderers are on it.
 
Nope. Obama has granted a total of 70 pardons for his two terms.

Bush granted 189.

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But what are facts, right?

If you had said commutations, you might be right. However, you used the word "pardon". Words matter.

I guess people aren't deserving of a second chance?
I mistated:


"Obama has now granted 170 commutations in just the past eight days, bringing the total for his presidency to 944. It's the largest number of commutations in any single year in history"

It's a shame you're an antagonistic prick otherwise it might be nice to see you posting again.
 
I mistated:


"Obama has now granted 170 commutations in just the past eight days, bringing the total for his presidency to 944. It's the largest number of commutations in any single year in history"

It's a shame you're an antagonistic prick otherwise it might be nice to see you posting again.

What because I corrected your incorrect use of a word?

There's a difference between pardon and commutation. Be more exact in your language and I wouldn't have to correct you ;)

I see you are so defensive that you already resorted to an ad hominem attack on your first reply to my post. Mission accomplished :D
 
They aren't all "pardons". Just for the record, I looked at the list and no murderers are on it.

fair enough....just what do you have to do to get a life sentence without killing? it would be a fair assumption that many of those pardoned [or commuted sentences] are not 1st offenders and have already been given a 2nd chance, 3rd chance, maybe even a 4th chance????
 
You know that if Trump gets rid of DACA it will cost SS and Medicare billions from the workers it deports. Remember, these were children when they entered the US. They didn't have a choice.

so you are saying it will be costly to correct the mistakes of the last 8 years?
 
But time is running out for Obama to address the backlog of clemency cases at the Office of the Pardon Attorney. As of Nov. 30, there were 1,937 pardon petitions and 13,042 applications for a commutation of sentence still pending.
 
fair enough....just what do you have to do to get a life sentence without killing? it would be a fair assumption that many of those pardoned [or commuted sentences] are not 1st offenders and have already been given a 2nd chance, 3rd chance, maybe even a 4th chance????

Maybe look it up? Who said they were all life sentences?

BRB, I'm going to actually look up facts ;)
 
so you are saying it will be costly to correct the mistakes of the last 8 years?

No, I'm saying Trump's "policies" will cost the US billions. Just wait.

Penalizing children for the sins of their parents is not good governance.

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Hopefully he works something out as he said in the article.
 
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Looks like most were drug convictions.

There are sprinklings of fraud, theft and other crimes.

363 of the commutations were life sentences, mostly centered around cocaine trafficking.
 
No, I'm saying Trump's "policies" will cost the US billions. Just wait.

Penalizing children for the sins of their parents is not good governance.

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Hopefully he works something out as he said in the article.

This stuff always costs money, you accept penalizing good parents for the faults of bad parents?
 
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Looks like most were drug convictions.

There are sprinklings of fraud, theft and other crimes.

363 of the commutations were life sentences, mostly centered around cocaine trafficking.

Those are some nice winners.
 
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Looks like most were drug convictions.

There are sprinklings of fraud, theft and other crimes.

363 of the commutations were life sentences, mostly centered around cocaine trafficking.

Obama's ideology is centered around drug dealing not being a violent crime...do you agree with this?
 
Obama's ideology is centered around drug dealing not being a violent crime...do you agree with this?

Drug dealing itself is not a violent crime. If drugs were legal, I'd be willing to bet it wouldn't be associated with violence as much as it has been.
 
No, I'm saying Trump's "policies" will cost the US billions. Just wait.

Penalizing children for the sins of their parents is not good governance.

From a conservatively skewed site even: Invalid Link Removed

Hopefully he works something out as he said in the article.

trump is inheriting this problem, why blame him for the sins of those who came before him[and I am including republicans]....yes, I hope he focuses on criminals like he has said he will.

I think it is insane for states to protect illegal aliens who come here and commit crimes, surely you do not agree with this?
 
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