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Jiigzz said:
Not everything is a conspiracy man. BLM was created because they feel unjustifiably targeted by the police and government justice systems; this has stemmed decades, not just the short while Obama has been in office. You use him as a scapegoat whenever things go wrong, but guess what? Frontline police don't stand there and say "I wonder what Obama would me to do today".

Statistically speaking, it is generally this same group of people who tend to be more dangerous toward police and authority figures - Does that make ALL of them like that, not even close, however in a country where firearms are readily accessible and these same, and the lives of cops CONSTANTLY on the line, can you really blame them for something that they likely experience day in and day?

Maybe Obama simply understands their position, and yes, maybe they will become a problem larger if the situation is not controlled, but much like you, they simply do not trust that the government has their best intentions at heart, except Obama is actually trying to reach out to these people whereas you would hope he makes it worse.
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I am no conspiracy guy, in fact I typically make fun of ax for it. However, BLM is directly funded by many differing Soros organizations. Very shady
 
Jiigzz said:
Not everything is a conspiracy man. BLM was created because they feel unjustifiably targeted by the police and government justice systems; this has stemmed decades, not just the short while Obama has been in office. You use him as a scapegoat whenever things go wrong, but guess what? Frontline police don't stand there and say "I wonder what Obama would me to do today".

Statistically speaking, it is generally this same group of people who tend to be more dangerous toward police and authority figures - Does that make ALL of them like that, not even close, however in a country where firearms are readily accessible and these same, and the lives of cops CONSTANTLY on the line, can you really blame them for something that they likely experience day in and day?

Maybe Obama simply understands their position, and yes, maybe they will become a problem larger if the situation is not controlled, but much like you, they simply do not trust that the government has their best intentions at heart, except Obama is actually trying to reach out to these people whereas you would hope he makes it worse.
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First off, the guy killed in Milwaukee was a known criminal with a long rap sheet. He pointed a stolen gun at a cop and got himself shot. The whole BLM really kicked off in Ferguson, after another black guy committed a crime and got himself killed in the aftermath. I'm not sure why there's any sympathy or empathy to their plight of distrust of the government.

Secondarily, if you knew anything about Saul Alinsky, then you'd know why Obama reaches out to them. Obama is a radical from the 60's, and the only way he knows how to affect change is by use of violence or "overwhelming the system".
 
AE14 said:
I am no conspiracy guy, in fact I typically make fun of ax for it. However, BLM is directly funded by many differing Soros organizations. Very shady
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It likely is, but he has donated millions to other causes he deems worthy as well. Is it also possible that maybe he feels that what they stand for is worth fighting for? Don't get me wrong here, I am not a supporter of BLM because I understand how the media works - let's say 10 white people are killed by cops each day somewhere but it is not reported, but two black guys are killed and both are aired on TV under breaking news, and the following day 10 more white people are killed and 2 more black people are killed, but again the media focuses on the two black people, it starts seeming like they are unjustifiably targeting blacks, but that's because they made it seem that way. Not hard to do.

But again, when you take into account statistics (whether you trust them or not is another matter), the same minority's are disproportionately are jailed for violent crimes and account for well over 50% of total inmates (despite only representing a tiny portion of the demographic of the US), can you blame front line cops for being edgy? They have families as well, and given that guns are so rampant in the US, you can be shot for simply pulling someone over who happens to have a gun and not want to go to jail.

youngandfree said:
First off, the guy killed in Milwaukee was a known criminal with a long rap sheet. He pointed a stolen gun at a cop and got himself shot. The whole BLM really kicked off in Ferguson, after another black guy committed a crime and got himself killed in the aftermath. I'm not sure why there's any sympathy or empathy to their plight of distrust of the government.

Secondarily, if you knew anything about Saul Alinsky, then you'd know why Obama reaches out to them. Obama is a radical from the 60's, and the only way he knows how to affect change is by use of violence or "overwhelming the system".
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I'm not saying race tensions haven't deteriorated significantly since he's been in office, that much you cannot deny, but that is also fueled by "social media heroes" and not just Obama. It is MUCH bigger than that.
 
Jiigzz said:
It likely is, but he has donated millions to other causes he deems worthy as well. Is it also possible that maybe he feels that what they stand for is worth fighting for? Don't get me wrong here, I am not a supporter of BLM because I understand how the media works - let's say 10 white people are killed by cops each day somewhere but it is not reported, but two black guys are killed and both are aired on TV under breaking news, and the following day 10 more white people are killed and 2 more black people are killed, but again the media focuses on the two black people, it starts seeming like they are unjustifiably targeting blacks, but that's because they made it seem that way. Not hard to do.

But again, when you take into account statistics (whether you trust them or not is another matter), the same minority's are disproportionately are jailed for violent crimes and account for well over 50% of total inmates (despite only representing a tiny portion of the demographic of the US), can you blame front line cops for being edgy? They have families as well, and given that guns are so rampant in the US, you can be shot for simply pulling someone over who happens to have a gun and not want to go to jail.



I'm not saying race tensions haven't deteriorated significantly since he's been in office, that much you cannot deny, but that is also fueled by "social media heroes" and not just Obama. It is MUCH bigger than that.
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That's exactly what I try to say at times, but I just get frustrated as all hell LOL.

NOTHING is as simple as it seems on the surface. It's a lot more complex than some of these "news" sites imply. I think they want to put these grand, conspiratorial schemes out there because they are far better at grabbing attention than a historical and/or social analysis of all of the factors. Not only that, it's much easier ;)
 
Misfit28 said:
That's exactly what I try to say at times, but I just get frustrated as all hell LOL.

NOTHING is as simple as it seems on the surface. It's a lot more complex than some of these "news" sites imply. I think they want to put these grand, conspiratorial schemes out there because they are far better at grabbing attention than a historical and/or social analysis of all of the factors. Not only that, it's much easier ;)
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Exactly. Conspiracy and hate sell much more copies of the newspaper than love and kindness do. Hate is a very powerful emotion, which is why you see much more complaints than you do of anything else. When people dislike something, they feel compelled to do something to get that changed, however when they like something it often goes unsaid.

Never trust any form of media straight from the outset, always question motive.
 
youngandfree said:
First off, the guy killed in Milwaukee was a known criminal with a long rap sheet. He pointed a stolen gun at a cop and got himself shot. The whole BLM really kicked off in Ferguson, after another black guy committed a crime and got himself killed in the aftermath. I'm not sure why there's any sympathy or empathy to their plight of distrust of the government.

Secondarily, if you knew anything about Saul Alinsky, then you'd know why Obama reaches out to them. Obama is a radical from the 60's, and the only way he knows how to affect change is by use of violence or "overwhelming the system".
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For the life of me, I can't see what is so terrifying about Saul Alinsky. He was about as "anti-establishment" as it comes, which is what Trump voters claim to love.

It seems perfectly acceptable for right wing folks to threaten revolution at every turn, but when liberals or people of color do it, it is anti-American, scary and/or threatening the very fabric of our democracy. What's so dangerous about a "fart in" or a "piss in"? Please outline a violent protest that was organized by Saul Alinsky solely for the purpose of violence. I'm genuinely curious here. Do you hate him for organizing downtrodden people to gain a voice in the political process?

In fact, Alinsky very much disliked the Black Panthers and the Weather Underground for their violent tactics.
 
Misfit28 said:
Are you really comparing BLM to ISIS? ISIS is an example of religious extremism at its worst.

I have heard that the leaders are simply using religion as a means to an end, though.

I just don't see the parallels between BLM and ISIS. Please make your case.
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they both justify violence...of course BLM seems fond of corndogs and ISIS maybe not so much.:wavey:
 
thebigt said:
they both justify violence...of course BLM seems fond of corndogs and ISIS maybe not so much.:wavey:
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BLM doesn't justify violence that I have seen. In fact, I have read the opposite.

Is there a group that exercises their freedom of assembly that you agree with?

No comment on the corn dog thing.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
Any physician that is willing to give a diagnosis of a stranger based on a few things on the internet and not an actual physical examination and medication history is a horrible doctor.
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you are taking this out of context...Hillary's use of blood thinners due to a concussion from a fall is well documented. I think it is perfectly fine for doctors to disagree with treatment of Coumadin since 1998 when there are newer and better blood thinners available....side effects of Coumadin include confusion and emails from her top aides verify that she suffers from confusion.
 
Misfit28 said:
BLM doesn't justify violence that I have seen. In fact, I have read the opposite.

Is there a group that exercises their freedom of assembly that you agree with?

No comment on the corn dog thing.
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here in Indiana pigs in a blanket ARE corndogs...are you a fan of pigs in a blanket?

what do you want...dead cops..when do you want it-now!!! soon after cops started getting dead...


would churches be considered a group exercising their freedom of assembly?
 
thebigt said:
you are taking this out of context...Hillary's use of blood thinners due to a concussion from a fall is well documented. I think it is perfectly fine for doctors to disagree with treatment of Coumadin since 1998 when there are newer and better blood thinners available....side effects of Coumadin include confusion and emails from her top aides verify that she suffers from confusion.
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After a little more research, it would seem that Coumadin (Warfarin) is used more often than Eliquis or Xarelto because the side effects are well documented. It's been around forever. In fact, there is a class action lawsuit about Xarelto and undisclosed or downplayed bleeding risks.
 
thebigt said:
here in Indiana pigs in a blanket ARE corndogs...are you a fan of pigs in a blanket?

what do you want...dead cops..when do you want it-now!!! soon after cops started getting dead...


would churches be considered a group exercising their freedom of assembly?
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No, I don't. They are not in the public space. They are generally in a church. Duh :)

Now, if they weren't in a church and chose to assemble peacably on public property I wouldn't have a problem with it.

So you don't think people outside of church should be allowed to exercise the right to peaceably assemble?
 
thebigt said:
they both justify violence...of course BLM seems fond of corndogs and ISIS maybe not so much.:wavey:
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I have one word to decribe your statement ....conspiracy.

End of story, stop questioning the official story and stop thinking for yourself.

Now carry on and do as your told.
 
thebigt said:
you are taking this out of context...Hillary's use of blood thinners due to a concussion from a fall is well documented. I think it is perfectly fine for doctors to disagree with treatment of Coumadin since 1998 when there are newer and better blood thinners available....side effects of Coumadin include confusion and emails from her top aides verify that she suffers from confusion.
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Coumadin for treatment of a concussion...never heard of that one before lol. Do you have a source stating that a concussion which occurred in 1998 is the reason she is on chronic anticoagulant therapy? It just seems very hard for me to believe. Im no doctor...but i dont see why you would prescribe an anticoagulant for treatment of a concussion when in 2016 we still tell people there are very few, if any, effective treatment options for an acute concussion or post concussion syndrome. Maybe you should leave this medical stuff to someone who has gone through medical school instead of trying to play internet doctor on a patient who likely has some high end doctors managing her health?
 
ax1 said:
I have one word to decribe your statement ....conspiracy.

End of story, stop questioning the official story and stop thinking for yourself.

Now carry on and do as your told.
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Here's a question:

How is reading and adopting conspiracy theories thinking for yourself?
 
jswain34 said:
Coumadin for treatment of a concussion...never heard of that one before lol. Do you have a source stating that a concussion which occurred in 1998 is the reason she is on chronic anticoagulant therapy? It just seems very hard for me to believe. Im no doctor...but i dont see why you would prescribe an anticoagulant for treatment of a concussion when in 2016 we still tell people there are very few, if any, effective treatment options for an acute concussion or post concussion syndrome. Maybe you should leave this medical stuff to someone who has gone through medical school instead of trying to play internet doctor on a patient who likely has some high end doctors managing her health?
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Dr. Drew has now chimed in about this, apparently. I just read about that.

But you are correct, sir :)
 
Jiigzz said:
Exactly. Conspiracy and hate sell much more copies of the newspaper than love and kindness do. Hate is a very powerful emotion, which is why you see much more complaints than you do of anything else. When people dislike something, they feel compelled to do something to get that changed, however when they like something it often goes unsaid.

Never trust any form of media straight from the outset, always question motive.
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But your support hating on 2nd amendment, supporting and fueling hatred towards that and questioning these people's motives right? Works both ways.
 
ax1 said:
This is extremely vague and irrelevant.
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No, it's very relevant. You say to think for yourself, but get hung up on these far-flung Alex Jones theories that he or someone in his staff created. How is that thinking for yourself? Or are you claiming to have read all the evidence and come up with these theories by yourself?

I'm not being an ass, just curious. I try to read through the stuff that I can find and make my mind up on what I believe. The fact that I don't believe the conspiratorial theories makes me mindless and not thinking for myself, simply because I don't agree with them?
 
Misfit28 said:
No, it's very relevant. You say to think for yourself, but get hung up on these far-flung Alex Jones theories that he or someone in his staff created. How is that thinking for yourself? Or are you claiming to have read all the evidence and come up with these theories by yourself?

I'm not being an ass, just curious. I try to read through the stuff that I can find and make my mind up on what I believe. The fact that I don't believe the conspiratorial theories makes me mindless and not thinking for myself, simply because I don't agree with them?
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Your the one accusing me of that so I can't answer this for you.
 
Misfit28 said:
No, I don't. They are not in the public space. They are generally in a church. Duh :)

Now, if they weren't in a church and chose to assemble peacably on public property I wouldn't have a problem with it.

So you don't think people outside of church should be allowed to exercise the right to peaceably assemble?
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sure...it is a constitutional right to peaceably assemble...it doesn't mean it gives them the right to infringe on others rights by blocking highways and streets and jumping on cars of motorists who are stalled in traffic while those peaceable assembler's act the fool...and often times it is not peaceful-ferguson wasn't peaceful, trump rallies have been less than peaceful, and milwaukee is shameful....there is a huge difference between a peaceful assembly and disorderly conduct.

I also am upset that it cost 1 billion dollars each=2 billion dollars of tax payer money to maintain order at the party conventions....

martin luther king led marches in the 60's that were peaceful and he made real advancement for civil rights while respecting the rights of others-I wholeheartedly supported king. king also condemned the black muslims and panther groups who advocated violence---and many believe that those groups were involved in king's assassination for speaking out against violence.....

if MLK were alive today and conducting peaceful rallies like those of the 60's I would 100% be behind it....king proved that you can achieve your goals in a non-violent manner...I don't know about you but I much prefer non-violence over violence and disorderly conduct.
 
jswain34 said:
Coumadin for treatment of a concussion...never heard of that one before lol. Do you have a source stating that a concussion which occurred in 1998 is the reason she is on chronic anticoagulant therapy? It just seems very hard for me to believe. Im no doctor...but i dont see why you would prescribe an anticoagulant for treatment of a concussion when in 2016 we still tell people there are very few, if any, effective treatment options for an acute concussion or post concussion syndrome. Maybe you should leave this medical stuff to someone who has gone through medical school instead of trying to play internet doctor on a patient who likely has some high end doctors managing her health?
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stop trolling and look it up for yourself it is well documented...I aint your dad, do your own homework...geez!!!

isn't it your bedtime?
 
thebigt said:
stop trolling and look it up for yourself it is well documented...I aint your dad, do your own homework...geez!!!

isn't it your bedtime?
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Edit: just not even gonna go there. Ive seen how this kinda stuff develops and i dont have the time for that bull shît.

Sorry Misfit. Lol
 
youngandfree said:
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Did this get brought up in the Kilary health discussion? A board certified physician reviewing medical records released by Kilary's doctors has serious concerns about her health and how it's being treated.
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Lol @ "Dr" Drew

Anyone checking Trump for insanity? Narcissistic Delusion? Dunning-Kruger?

These candidates are 67 and 70; how healthy do we expect them to be?
 
Misfit28 said:
No, it's very relevant. You say to think for yourself, but get hung up on these far-flung Alex Jones theories that he or someone in his staff created. How is that thinking for yourself? Or are you claiming to have read all the evidence and come up with these theories by yourself?

I'm not being an ass, just curious. I try to read through the stuff that I can find and make my mind up on what I believe. The fact that I don't believe the conspiratorial theories makes me mindless and not thinking for myself, simply because I don't agree with them?
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Seriously though, I don't know wtf to say this conspiracy adhominem baloney. It doesn't mean anything to me. I debate specifics and normally don't accuse your of being a brainwashed leftist minion of the state. Stick to the topic, not over generalize with labels on people to bring them down. Win with content.
 
thebigt said:
sure...it is a constitutional right to peaceably assemble...it doesn't mean it gives them the right to infringe on others rights by blocking highways and streets and jumping on cars of motorists who are stalled in traffic while those peaceable assembler's act the fool...and often times it is not peaceful-ferguson wasn't peaceful, trump rallies have been less than peaceful, and milwaukee is shameful....there is a huge difference between a peaceful assembly and disorderly conduct.

I also am upset that it cost 1 billion dollars each=2 billion dollars of tax payer money to maintain order at the party conventions....

martin luther king led marches in the 60's that were peaceful and he made real advancement for civil rights while respecting the rights of others-I wholeheartedly supported king. king also condemned the black muslims and panther groups who advocated violence---and many believe that those groups were involved in king's assassination for speaking out against violence.....

if MLK were alive today and conducting peaceful rallies like those of the 60's I would 100% be behind it....king proved that you can achieve your goals in a non-violent manner...I don't know about you but I much prefer non-violence over violence and disorderly conduct.
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Saul Alinsky denounced the Black Panthers and advocated for non-violent protest, but he is evil ;)

As he said in his "Letter From Birmingham Jail", "You may well ask: "Why direct action? Why sit ins, marches and so forth? Isn't negotiation a better path?" You are quite right in calling for negotiation. Indeed, this is the very purpose of direct action. Nonviolent direct action seeks to create such a crisis and foster such a tension that a community which has constantly refused to negotiate is forced to confront the issue. It seeks so to dramatize the issue that it can no longer be ignored. My citing the creation of tension as part of the work of the nonviolent resister may sound rather shocking. But I must confess that I am not afraid of the word "tension." I have earnestly opposed violent tension, but there is a type of constructive, nonviolent tension which is necessary for growth." *bold added for my emphasis

It seems that he strived to create tension with his protests. They were very disruptive as well.

As far as streets go, do you think there was no disruption that resulted from the Selma to Montgomery march? I'm pretty sure that stopped some traffic.
 
ax1 said:
Seriously though, I don't know wtf to say this conspiracy adhominem baloney. It doesn't mean anything to me. I debate specifics and normally don't accuse your of being a brainwashed leftist minion of the state. Stick to the topic, not over generalize with labels on people to bring them down. Win with content.
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When I try, I get shot down with conspiracy nonsense that people want to believe. That's why :)

Or crazy made up names, LOL.
 
Misfit28 said:
Saul Alinsky denounced the Black Panthers and advocated for non-violent protest, but he is evil ;)

As he said in his "Letter From Birmingham Jail", "You may well ask: "Why direct action? Why sit ins, marches and so forth? Isn't negotiation a better path?" You are quite right in calling for negotiation. Indeed, this is the very purpose of direct action. Nonviolent direct action seeks to create such a crisis and foster such a tension that a community which has constantly refused to negotiate is forced to confront the issue. It seeks so to dramatize the issue that it can no longer be ignored. My citing the creation of tension as part of the work of the nonviolent resister may sound rather shocking. But I must confess that I am not afraid of the word "tension." I have earnestly opposed violent tension, but there is a type of constructive, nonviolent tension which is necessary for growth." *bold added for my emphasis

It seems that he strived to create tension with his protests. They were very disruptive as well.

As far as streets go, do you think there was no disruption that resulted from the Selma to Montgomery march? I'm pretty sure that stopped some traffic.
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I don't want to get too far into this, but there's a difference between a march that happens to stop traffic and a protest with the intention of disrupting/stopping traffic.
 
jswain34 said:
Edit: just not even gonna go there. Ive seen how this kinda stuff develops and i dont have the time for that bull shît.
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then next time just leave the discussion to the grownups...your posts make you sound like a 13 year old girl, geez!!!
 
muscleupcrohn said:
I don't want to get too far into this, but there's a difference between a march that happens to stop traffic and a protest with the intention of disrupting/stopping traffic.
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True. However, as the letter states, he intended to create tension. Isn't that what BLM is doing?
 
Misfit28 said:
Saul Alinsky denounced the Black Panthers and advocated for non-violent protest, but he is evil ;)

As he said in his "Letter From Birmingham Jail", "You may well ask: "Why direct action? Why sit ins, marches and so forth? Isn't negotiation a better path?" You are quite right in calling for negotiation. Indeed, this is the very purpose of direct action. Nonviolent direct action seeks to create such a crisis and foster such a tension that a community which has constantly refused to negotiate is forced to confront the issue. It seeks so to dramatize the issue that it can no longer be ignored. My citing the creation of tension as part of the work of the nonviolent resister may sound rather shocking. But I must confess that I am not afraid of the word "tension." I have earnestly opposed violent tension, but there is a type of constructive, nonviolent tension which is necessary for growth." *bold added for my emphasis

It seems that he strived to create tension with his protests. They were very disruptive as well.

As far as streets go, do you think there was no disruption that resulted from the Selma to Montgomery march? I'm pretty sure that stopped some traffic.
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how many people got injured during a king 'peace' march...you are really getting desperate here, lol....I lived thru those times and the majority of WHITES supported king...BLM is going out of their way to alienate WHITES....I saw a reporter say that he was leaving milwaukee because whites were being targeted...king would have never put up with that.
 
thebigt said:
then next time just leave the discussion to the grownups...your posts make you sound like a 13 year old girl, geez!!!
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And what exactly do you think your posts make you seem like? Ill tell you one thing, it sure as hell isn't an educated "grown up".

Misfit28 said:
I won't say what your posts make you sound like :D Why does he sound like a "13 year old girl"?
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Interested in hearing this as well...I'm sure the answer will be good.
 
thebigt said:
how many people got injured during a king 'peace' march...you are really getting desperate here, lol....I lived thru those times and the majority of WHITES supported king...BLM is going out of their way to alienate WHITES....I saw a reporter say that he was leaving milwaukee because whites were being targeted...king would have never put up with that.
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Only 22% of whites supported the Civil Rights Movement at the time it was occurring.

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Misfit28 said:
True. However, as the letter states, he intended to create tension. Isn't that what BLM is doing?
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you are as confused as Hillary if you compare tension to violence???? king would NOT ALLOW violence at his marches...he spoke out against the panthers and black muslims for their advocacy of violence...you really need to research since you weren't alive in those days!!!

you insult the legacy of MLK by comparing him to the thugs of BLM, imo!!!
 
Misfit28 said:
True. However, as the letter states, he intended to create tension. Isn't that what BLM is doing?
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There are multiple types of tension. When tension leads to violence, it is bad, and it is worse when tension is created by violence. If nothing else, lots of thugs and criminals are using BLM as an EXCUSE to commit crimes, loot, and vandalize. IMO, MLK did more to prevent this sort of violence than BLM is doing.
 
thebigt said:
you are as confused as Hillary if you compare tension to violence???? king would NOT ALLOW violence at his marches...he spoke out against the panthers and black muslims for their advocacy of violence...you really need to research since you weren't alive in those days!!!

you insult the legacy of MLK by comparing him to the thugs of BLM, imo!!!
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Aren't you only like fifty something? What were you like 2?

All you know how to do apparently is insult people.

Did you live in the South during the Civil Rights Movement? How old were you?

Why do you feel the need to disparage those younger than you?

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Misfit28 said:
Aren't you only like fifty something? What were you like 2?

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58...how old were you?

I was in kindergarten when jfk was assassinated but I was well aware of something big going on. I was 10 when MLK was assassinated...those events had a lasting effect and effected the things that happened in the 70's which was my time. king's surrogates kept his legacy alive and jesse Jackson and others carried his torch.

btw-I was 11 when neil Armstrong walked on the moon and I watched it live on tv, how cool is that, lol.
 
Misfit28 said:
Only 22% of whites supported the Civil Rights Movement at the time it was occurring.

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have you ever watched those marches? look at the people in those marches!!!

figures don't lie, but liars figure....
 
My point is that you were 2 when King's Marches happened. How can you give any credence to that giving you knowledge of events as they happened? Lol.
 
thebigt said:
58...how old were you?

I was in kindergarten when jfk was assassinated but I was well aware of something big going on. I was 10 when MLK was assassinated...those events had a lasting effect and effected the things that happened in the 70's which was my time. king's surrogates kept his legacy alive and jesse Jackson and others carried his torch.

btw-I was 11 when neil Armstrong walked on the moon and I watched it live on tv, how cool is that, lol.
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Jesse Jackson is no MLK.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
Jesse Jackson is no MLK.
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no argument on that...but jesse Jackson today is not the jesse Jackson of those days. I supported his rainbow coalition, and agree that with unity we can accomplish much more than with diversity. blacks and whites have much in common it's just that the differences are what is being emphasized.....I have always said that the only color that really matters is green--

this diversity is playing into the hands of the powers to be, the only way real change will ever happen is if the races are united!!!
 
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