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Socalmk6gti said:
Unfortunately and you can call it what you want (war on terror) that fight will live forever. All we can do is try to remain as peaceful as possible while trying to limit the growth of that threat. It's not like ISIS grew this large overnight, it probably started much like the BLM and grew from there.
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Yeah We can start by not creating them lol
 
Misfit28 said:
Are you really comparing BLM to ISIS? ISIS is an example of religious extremism at its worst.

I have heard that the leaders are simply using religion as a means to an end, though.

I just don't see the parallels between BLM and ISIS. Please make your case.
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They were both created, financed and trained by the CIA and the US government.
 
youngandfree said:
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Good read. Thanks for posting that. It seems that it was more of a systematic failure from the state to federal level, and they needed a single scapegoat to deflect blame. It's actually a good commentary on the things that are wrong with a divided system, IMO. State's rights sometimes have a conflict with the federal government that is not in the state's best interest.

Ironically it mentions emails taken out of context. I wonder how many of Clinton's are taken out of context in the same way. I'm not defending Hillary, it just brings up the question.

Once again, thanks for the post. Good food for thought.
 
ax1 said:
They were both created, financed and trained by the CIA and the US government.
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If you mean created by our current and past policies, yes. Financed and trained? Perhaps some of ISIS has been trained by us, but BLM?

After all, Osama WAS trained and financed by the CIA.
 
Misfit28 said:
Are you really comparing BLM to ISIS? ISIS is an example of religious extremism at its worst.

I have heard that the leaders are simply using religion as a means to an end, though.

I just don't see the parallels between BLM and ISIS. Please make your case.
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Ultimately they are both a gathering of people attempting to voice their opinions or beliefs. One might be more civil than the other but as groups gain members they gain strength. BLM is recruiting daily, so is ISIS. So is Al Qaeda... One just happens to be in a third world country with Islamic beliefs. As BLM gains popularity they're now joining forces with the new Black Panther party and protesting while armed with semi automatic rifles. So you tell me...am I drawing too much of a parallel? They have to start somewhere and all it takes is a radical leader to step in and all hell breaks loose.
 
Misfit28 said:
If you mean created by our current and past policies, yes. Financed and trained? Perhaps some of ISIS has been trained by us, but BLM?

After all, Osama WAS trained and financed by the CIA.
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Oh BLM lol a bit different but that's Nazi sympathizer Soros, Obama and other special interests manipulating black people for bigger agendas.
 
Socalmk6gti said:
Ultimately they are both a gathering of people attempting to voice their opinions or beliefs. One might be more civil than the other but as groups gain members they gain strength. BLM is recruiting daily, so is ISIS. So is Al Qaeda... One just happens to be in a third world country with Islamic beliefs. As BLM gains popularity they're now joining forces with the new Black Panther party and protesting while armed with semi automatic rifles. So you tell me...am I drawing too much of a parallel? They have to start somewhere and all it takes is a radical leader to step in and all hell breaks loose.
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That makes sense to me.
 
thebigt said:
hillarys health problems seem to be getting worse...she has taken Coumadin since 1998 for her blood clotting issues. side effects of Coumadin include blurred vision and confusion....in a hacked email between top Clinton aids they mentioned that Hillary was taking her afternoon nap and and to remind her twice of an upcoming event because she often gets confused.

insiders report that Hillary often combines anti-depressants with alcohol and is prone to violet outbursts of anger. she 'beat up' bill in the private bedroom of the white house and secret service had to pull her off...bill had scratches to his face and neck.

it is also reported that she goes on junk food binges and has gained 20lbs, very bad for someone of her age and poor health.

btw-if you are wondering who the guy that is always with her is...he is not secret service, and he is not a regular doctor...he is neurologist DR.OLADOTUN OKUNOLA.
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That guy that you purport to be Dr. Oladotun Okunola? That is NOT him. Here's a side by side photo comparison:

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Misfit28 said:
Good read. Thanks for posting that. It seems that it was more of a systematic failure from the state to federal level, and they needed a single scapegoat to deflect blame. It's actually a good commentary on the things that are wrong with a divided system, IMO. State's rights sometimes have a conflict with the federal government that is not in the state's best interest.

Ironically it mentions emails taken out of context. I wonder how many of Clinton's are taken out of context in the same way. I'm not defending Hillary, it just brings up the question.

Once again, thanks for the post. Good food for thought.
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More character assessment for Ray Nagin. :) I believe they also found a couple hundred thousand dollars in his freezer. It was either him of the governor during that time.

Correction, it was a LA Congressman, not the governor or mayor.

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youngandfree said:
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More character assessment for Ray Nagin. :) I believe they also found a couple hundred thousand dollars in his freezer. It was either him of the governor during that time.
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Ray Nagin certainly struck me as a not so savory guy, LOL. This further proves it. Unfortunately, the people of NOLA had to take the hit for his bad decisions.
 
Socalmk6gti said:
Ultimately they are both a gathering of people attempting to voice their opinions or beliefs. One might be more civil than the other but as groups gain members they gain strength. BLM is recruiting daily, so is ISIS. So is Al Qaeda... One just happens to be in a third world country with Islamic beliefs. As BLM gains popularity they're now joining forces with the new Black Panther party and protesting while armed with semi automatic rifles. So you tell me...am I drawing too much of a parallel? They have to start somewhere and all it takes is a radical leader to step in and all hell breaks loose.
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So, how is that different than open carry people protesting with semi-automatic rifles?
 
I'm beginning to think that sometimes Trump just has an incredibly bad sense of humor. I still don't think he is a good guy deep down.

Then again, I'm not sure Hillary is a good woman either.
 
Misfit28 said:
So, how is that different than open carry people protesting with semi-automatic rifles?
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Well one group is carrying a gun for self defense, the other is calling for the killing of innocent cops.
 
ax1 said:
Oh BLM lol a bit different but that's Nazi sympathizer Soros, Obama and other special interests manipulating black people for bigger agendas.
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WTF. Are you serious? George Soros is Jewish. His father passed him off as a Christian so he could escape. Who wouldn't do that for their own child?

Sometimes you boggle my mind, LOL.
 
Socalmk6gti said:
Intent
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So, you know the intent of BLM? From what I understand, the leader of BLM has called for no violence. Could they be carrying for self-defense, just as the open carry people?

The guys who shot the cops in Baton Rouge and Dallas were both ex-military.
 
Misfit28 said:
WTF. Are you serious? George Soros is Jewish. His father passed him off as a Christian so he could escape. Who wouldn't do that for their own child?

Sometimes you boggle my mind, LOL.
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Just because your Jewish doesn't mean you don't do business with evil.
 
Socalmk6gti said:
Did you watch this speech in its entirety? Watch his demeanor, he has come a long way and hopefully continues to speak like this. I loved everything about this speech. Now go look at a HRC speech where she looks like an angry Hitler about to murder everyone in sight.

Seriously, take the time to even watch the first half. I promise you'll be impressed.

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Meh. He's "under the control" of his handlers, basically. Using a teleprompter, which he railed against earlier in the campaign.

More controlled and reserved, yes. Still spouting mistruths and making inaccurate claims, yes.

Let's see how long his "control" lasts. If only he showed such restraint on Twitter.
 
Misfit28 said:
He was 14 years old, LOL. I'm sure you would do some desperate things too if your entire ethnicity was singled out for extermination.
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And he needs to be prosecuted for his crimes / story.

Dude doesn't even regret it.

Steve Kroft of 60 Minutes asked him that. Was it difficult? “Not at all,” Soros answered.
“No feeling of guilt?” asked Kroft. “No,” said Soros. “There was no sense that I shouldn’t be there. If I wasn’t doing it, somebody else would be taking it away anyhow. Whether I was there or not. So I had no sense of guilt.”

A Nazi would steal the Jews’ property anyways. So why not him?
 
ax1 said:
And he needs to be prosecuted for his crimes / story.

Dude doesn't even regret it.

Steve Kroft of 60 Minutes asked him that. Was it difficult? “Not at all,” Soros answered.
“No feeling of guilt?” asked Kroft. “No,” said Soros. “There was no sense that I shouldn’t be there. If I wasn’t doing it, somebody else would be taking it away anyhow. Whether I was there or not. So I had no sense of guilt.”

A Nazi would steal the Jews’ property anyways. So why not him?
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You're just spreading further edited crap:

"That exchange leaves out key statements from Soros to make it seem like he unapologetically helped the Nazis. But In the actual transcript, Soros says:

“…I was 14 years old. And I would say that that’s when my character was made … That one should think ahead. One should understand that — and anticipate events and when, when one is threatened. It was a tremendous threat of evil. I mean, it was a — a very personal threat of evil.”

The exchange, as recounted by O’Neill, also leaves out a key part of the interview in which Soros explained why he didn’t feel guilt for helping the Nazis confiscate property:

I could be on the other side or I could be the one from whom the thing is being taken away. But there was no sense that I shouldn’t be there, because that was — well, actually, in a funny way, it’s just like in the markets — that is I weren’t there — of course, I wasn’t doing it, but somebody else would – would — would be taking it away anyhow. And it was the — whether I was there or not, I was only a spectator, the property was being taken away. So the — I had no role in taking away that property. So I had no sense of guilt.”

I read transcripts of interviews for a living, so the part that was taken out sounds very much like an actual interview: false starts, repeated words, etc.

Been listening to or reading about too much Glenn Beck and Ann Coulter?
 
It's pretty annoying to research stuff and find actual proof (like FULL transcripts) and people still deny it. It's actually quite ridiculous.

People would rather believe fantastical conspiracy theories, I guess.

Frickin' hell.
 
ax1 said:
Proof of what, that ignorant people should be excused of their crimes? That doesnt go with my morals.
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The transcript says that he was an observer. What can a 14 year old do in that situation besides die?

What would you have done?
 
Misfit28 said:
It's pretty annoying to research stuff and find actual proof (like FULL transcripts) and people still deny it. It's actually quite ridiculous.

People would rather believe fantastical conspiracy theories, I guess.

Frickin' hell.
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Yeah right, and your proof only supports what Im saying, he collaborated with the Nazi's and he doesnt belong in the free world. At least he needs to serve time or heavy labor making our license plates and booking our flights.

Anyways he hasnt shown and respect to humanity since, he is the real world satan.
 
Misfit28 said:
The transcript says that he was an observer. What can a 14 year old do in that situation besides die?

What would you have done?
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I would walk myself to the ovens before collaborating with the Nazi's. Death is more rewarding that evil.
 
Misfit28 said:
WTF. Are you serious? George Soros is Jewish. His father passed him off as a Christian so he could escape. Who wouldn't do that for their own child?

Sometimes you boggle my mind, LOL.
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You need to do a bit more research on Soros. As a teenager he helped the Nazis. It's definitely not that black and white.
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Misfit28 said:
Yeah, you say that now. At 14 years old, you would have walked into an oven? Yeah, right.
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So if you were forced at 14 years old to massacre a school bus because someone was going to kill you if you didnt, you would go to court after you slaughtered all those children thinking you were free of your crimes, right?
 
ax1 said:
Yeah right, and your proof only supports what Im saying, he collaborated with the Nazi's and he doesnt belong in the free world. At least he needs to serve time or heavy labor making our license plates and booking our flights.

Anyways he hasnt shown and respect to humanity since, he is the real world satan.
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My proof shows that you are willing to quote things that aren't the whole truth. That's what it illustrates. If you are going to judge someone, at least read the whole thing, not some wingnut conspiracy BS that spreads blatant mistruths by hand picking parts of entire interview transcripts.
 
Misfit28 said:
My proof shows that you are willing to quote things that aren't the whole truth. That's what it illustrates. If you are going to judge someone, at least read the whole thing, not some wingnut conspiracy BS that spreads blatant mistruths by hand picking parts of entire interview transcripts.
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I read what you posted, it doesnt change my mind how I feel about him and what happened. All I have to look is see the rucus he has caused since then up to the point of helping finance pro-nazi groups in the Ukraine to overthrown the elected president and cause a civil war and further chaos with Russia.

The dude is a rotten piece of trash.
 
ax1 said:
I read what you posted, it doesnt change my mind how I feel about him and what happened. All I have to look is see the rucus he has caused since then up to the point of helping finance pro-nazi groups in the Ukraine to overthrown the elected president and cause a civil war and further chaos with Russia.

The dude is a rotten piece of trash.
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I no longer believe anything you say without irrefutable evidence. Goodbye for now, I have work to do.
 
Misfit28 said:
LOL, OK. You apparently can't accept proof, either. Don't worry, I still love you, though :)
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I know you love me, you have been liking every single freaking post I post here for the past week and you wont leave me alonE!!!!!!!!
 
Misfit28 said:
I no longer believe anything you say without irrefutable evidence. Goodbye for now, I have work to do.
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Oh geez, ROFL We should just close this thread down, wtf is irrefutable evidence when it comes to this stuff?

Dont work, thats too time consuming, lol
 
Misfit28 said:
So, you know the intent of BLM? From what I understand, the leader of BLM has called for no violence. Could they be carrying for self-defense, just as the open carry people?

The guys who shot the cops in Baton Rouge and Dallas were both ex-military.
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Their black power leanings trump them being former military. They didn't go on an anti government killing, they went hunting for white cops for solidarity to the black panther calling to do so.
 
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Did this get brought up in the Kilary health discussion? A board certified physician reviewing medical records released by Kilary's doctors has serious concerns about her health and how it's being treated.
 
youngandfree said:
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Did this get brought up in the Kilary health discussion? A board certified physician reviewing medical records released by Kilary's doctors has serious concerns about her health and how it's being treated.
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Im starting to think this is all getting leaked out by Hitlery campaign themselves. Its really distracting from the real issues of her crimes and corruption. It can also be used as a leverage over Trump in some ways.
 
ax1 said:
They were both created, financed and trained by the CIA and the US government.
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Not everything is a conspiracy man. BLM was created because they feel unjustifiably targeted by the police and government justice systems; this has stemmed decades, not just the short while Obama has been in office. You use him as a scapegoat whenever things go wrong, but guess what? Frontline police don't stand there and say "I wonder what Obama would me to do today".

Statistically speaking, it is generally this same group of people who tend to be more dangerous toward police and authority figures - Does that make ALL of them like that, not even close, however in a country where firearms are readily accessible and these same, and the lives of cops CONSTANTLY on the line, can you really blame them for something that they likely experience day in and day?

Maybe Obama simply understands their position, and yes, maybe they will become a problem larger if the situation is not controlled, but much like you, they simply do not trust that the government has their best intentions at heart, except Obama is actually trying to reach out to these people whereas you would hope he makes it worse.
 
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