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Gutterpump said:
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Just a friendly reminder for all the Republicans on here :)
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this is important for everyone. People forget the Jimmy Carter years or Gerald Ford...hell any leader during my lifetime. It gets better for some and not others. Thats the cyclical nature of it all.
 
I see that the Orlando shooter's father has endorsed Hillary...she even had him standing beside her!!!
 
AE14 said:
this is important for everyone. People forget the Jimmy Carter years or Gerald Ford...hell any leader during my lifetime. It gets better for some and not others. Thats the cyclical nature of it all.
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While this is true, the GOP is the only party that prides itself on being focused on the past, on keeping outdated traditions and laws, being non-progressive, and living in the past. They romanticize the past and want to stay in it. It's their credo.
 
Gutterpump said:
While this is true, the GOP is the only party that prides itself on being focused on the past, on keeping outdated traditions and laws, being non-progressive, and living in the past. They romanticize the past and want to stay in it. It's their credo.
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you ever notice how history repeats itself...it's like all those protesters and Bernie supporters are reliving the 60's and 70's---they are not progressive, they are regressive....they are trying to bring back the anything goes liberal movement of the hippies and radicals of my youth...socialism was tried by the hippies-ever hear of communes? and black panthers aint nothing new, seen them before-todays liberals are just stealing ideas of the 60's and 70's-talk about focusing on the past and being non-progressive---todays liberals aint nothing but a bunch of copycats!!!
 
thebigt said:
you ever notice how history repeats itself...it's like all those protesters and Bernie supporters are reliving the 60's and 70's---they are not progressive, they are regressive....they are trying to bring back the anything goes liberal movement of the hippies and radicals of my youth...socialism was tried by the hippies-ever hear of communes? and black panthers aint nothing new, seen them before-todays liberals are just stealing ideas of the 60's and 70's-talk about focusing on the past and being non-progressive---todays liberals aint nothing but a bunch of copycats!!!
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Liberalism is fairly new and it is progressive. The GOP wants to bring back the 1800s lol
 
Gutterpump said:
Liberalism is fairly new and it is progressive. The GOP wants to bring back the 1800s lol
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you obviously weren't here in the usa during the 60's and 70's...do some research-your comment is borderline stupid....
 
And Trump just suggested gun owners to protect the 2nd Amendment, by using the 2nd Amendment against a presumptive President Hillary. Wow
David Dunn more Archie Bunker

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rtmilburn said:
Difference is rebulicans always had those ideals, liberal have moved on then are now regressing back.
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The Republicans can't seem to get with the times. They want to live in a past that's not even relevant anymore. At least some Conservatives like Gary Johnson can see this and have formed a new party.
 
Gutterpump said:
Oh I see, but going back 200 years is! I totally get your logic now :) Thanks for clearing all this up.
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watch the movie forrest gump...you could replace Bernie sanders for abbie Hoffman...they are telling the same story.

I lived thru the hippie, radical movement of the 60's and 70's, it is the same old song and dance that todays liberals are trying to pass off as new and progressive...been there-done that!!!
 
thebigt said:
watch the movie forrest gump...you could replace Bernie sanders for abbie Hoffman...they are telling the same story.

I lived thru the hippie, radical movement of the 60's and 70's, it is the same old song and dance that todays liberals are trying to pass off as new and progressive...been there-done that!!!
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Why do you keep ignoring the comments about the GOP? Do you not admit they wish to stay in the past? In a long lost non-relevant past?

I don't care if "Liberalism" was big in the 60s-70s, so what? The GOP does not, nor will they ever, enter into this era. But modern/progressive Conservatives will keep jumping ship, likely joining the Libertarians, with their more intelligent counterparts.
 
After this election, I honestly see a death to the GOP as we know it, and a rise of the Libertarian party. Too many Conservatives who are fed up with the status quo of their party. The GOP has been living a slow death for a while now.
 
Gutterpump said:
Why do you keep ignoring the comments about the GOP? Do you not admit they wish to stay in the past? In a long lost non-relevant past?

I don't care if "Liberalism" was big in the 60s-70s, so what? The GOP does not, not will they ever, enter into this era. But modern Conservatives will keep jumping ship, likely joining the Libertarians.
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Thank goodness for Progressives. The Middle Ages sound horrible.
 
NutraChem said:
Time runs in cycles, T. Nothing is truly new, just re-cycled.

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this is very true...the hippie anti-establishment 'MOVEMENT' of the 60's and 70's was based on KARL MARX's 'COMMUNIST MANIFESTO' which was wrote in 1848---which IS CLOSE TO 200 YEARS AGO....i bet Bernie sanders AND Hillary Clinton both had copy's and read it back in their college days--i would bet on it!!!

i know those days very well, i was one of those hippies way back then....before i joined the navy and put away my young boy ways and became a MAN!!!
 
Same attitude and actions sure, but you can't say the issues are the same. And the ones that are the same, the extent to which they are being fought for is different. That is the nature of being Progressive. Ok, got a little...keep pushing, keep progressing. It is not an idea that you push for change and then stop and settle in. Society evolves. Humanity evolves (well some of it).
 
thebigt said:
i know those days very well, i was one of those hippies way back then....before i joined the navy and put away my young boy ways and became a MAN!!!
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Woohoo! So this was when you removed yourself from the kitchen, like a REAL man should! Got himself some guns, threw the apron away and wanted all immgrants to gtfo .... Right on dude gnarly
 
Gutterpump said:
Why do you keep ignoring the comments about the GOP? Do you not admit they wish to stay in the past? In a long lost non-relevant past?

I don't care if "Liberalism" was big in the 60s-70s, so what? The GOP does not, nor will they ever, enter into this era. But modern/progressive Conservatives will keep jumping ship, likely joining the Libertarians, with their more intelligent counterparts.
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show me just one country where socialism/communism has worked...Venezuela? Russia? china? move to those countries and tell them about civil rights!!!

socialism/communism is proven fail---time after time!!!
 
thebigt said:
show me just one country where socialism/communism has worked...Venezuela? Russia? china? move to those countries and tell them about civil rights!!!

socialism/communism is proven fail---time after time!!!
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Eh? I'm not making any arguments for communism, when have I done that? But we can't ignore the current day issues we have and pretend we live in an age-gone-by, by old-school ways/laws.
 
Gutterpump said:
Woohoo! So this was when you removed yourself from the kitchen, like a REAL man should! Got himself some guns, threw the apron away and wanted all immgrants to gtfo .... Right on dude gnarly
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actually it is when I realized how stupid democrats/liberals were after I voted for jimmy carter....
 
thebigt said:
actually it is when I realized how stupid democrats/liberals were after I voted for jimmy carter....
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Yup, cos only girly men with puny arms need go in the kitchen. Us real men deserve our inferiors to serve us on a golden plater, while we shoot our real man guns in the air (don't let yer womens touch yer guns btw, might become ugly dykes). Fkn Carter eh? What a fkn hippy. He's just a big ol pu$$y ain't he. Probably is one of those dumbass LGBT dykes too.
 
Gutterpump said:
Yup, cos only girly men with puny arms need go in the kitchen. Us real men deserve our inferiors to serve us on a golden plater, while we shoot our real man guns in the air (don't let yer womens touch yer guns btw, might become ugly dykes). Fkn Carter eh? What a fkn hippy. He's just a big ol pu$$y ain't he. Probably is one of those dumbass LGBT dykes too.
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Yeah what a piece of shiit pusssy that guy is.
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Gutterpump said:
Yup, cos only girly men with puny arms need go in the kitchen. Us real men deserve our inferiors to serve us on a golden plater, while we shoot our real man guns in the air (don't let yer womens touch yer guns btw, might become ugly dykes). Fkn Carter eh? What a fkn hippy. He's just a big ol pu$$y ain't he. Probably is one of those dumbass LGBT dykes too.
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Ugh you are a biggot if that what you honestly think that rebulicans think. There are some extremists that might but the majority dont fcking dumb ass.
 
I like this thread and all but the silly generalizations are getting out of hand.

"All democrats do this and all republicans do that." So sad
 
Dma378 said:
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yup...and gutterpump moved from Canada to here---I wonder why!!!

you got that from a leftist sight...with the right spin you could make anything look better than it is---look at Hillary Clinton!!!

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Dma378 said:
Yeah what a piece of shiit pusssy that guy is.
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I am on record as saying I like jimmy carter as a human being, I just didn't/don't like his political views...just like you Dma378, I think you are a good guy, I just don't agree with SOME of your leftist views.

hell, even Gutterpump can be a good guy when he isn't trolling, lol.
 
thebigt said:
yup...and gutterpump moved from Canada to here---I wonder why!!!
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All ya had to do was ask bro! I had a bad breakup with my fiance, and had some friends convince me to move to NYC because they had just moved here too. I was ready to get outta there! Wanted to start fresh somewhere new, somewhere far (but not toooo far). Now ya know!

In all honestly, on all websites, the QOL in Canada is rated much higher than the U.S. I wouldn't have moved here if I wasn't a professional, my prospects and life would've been much better in Canada (and in some ways, still would be).

I'm currently in talks with my lady about marriage, and we both agree not to give up my Canadian citizenship. We're going to aim for dual. She really loves it there, but all her family is here. I love it here too in the US. But I definitely didn't move here just for work/capitalism.
 
Dma378 said:
Like T says about me, I'll say about him...he's more Liberal than he thinks!! thebigt
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this is true...I believe 100% in equality...I also believe in fair wages....I also believe we need a safety net for those who cannot work and the physically/mentally handicapped....

I also think that as a nation we need to shore up the problems we have here in this country before we play savior to the world...charity begins at home!!!
 
thebigt said:
this is true...I believe 100% in equality...I also believe in fair wages....I also believe we need a safety net for those who cannot work and the physically/mentally handicapped....

I also think that as a nation we need to shore up the problems we have here in this country before we play savior to the world...charity begins at home!!!
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Join the Libertarian movement/party!! They don't believe in interventionism, you'd be a great fit, and we'd welcome ya with open arms! They embolden all things great about Conservatives and Liberals. Freedom of choice, to live how we wish, whilst remaining responsible.
 
Gutterpump said:
All ya had to do was ask bro! I had a bad breakup with my fiance, and had some friends convince me to move to NYC because they had just moved here too. I was ready to get outta there! Wanted to start fresh somewhere new, somewhere far (but not toooo far). Now ya know!

In all honestly, on all websites, the QOL in Canada is rated much higher than the U.S. I wouldn't have moved here if I wasn't a professional, my prospects and life would've been much better in Canada.

I'm currently in talks with my lady about marriage, and we both agree not to give up my Canadian citizenship. We're going to aim for dual. She really loves it there, but all her family is here. I love it here too in the US. But I definitely didn't move here just for work/capitalism.
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lol...when a pro athlete says it isn't about the money...it's about the money...lol......I understand perfectly though, I would still have strong feelings for my place of birth and upbringing if I were you.....

there once was a time when America was a destination that truly was way above what immigrants were leaving behind. they assimilated into their new lives and never looked back. I think this might be what trump is talking about when he says 'MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN'.
 
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