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Donald Trump running for president

ax1 said:
I dont give a crap what the "right" does or thinks. I think for myself.

If it was me Id thrown both Bush and Hitlery in the hole together.
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But they are the ones who keep pursuing it after the fact. Why exactly do you want them to keep wasting our money?
 
Matthandyo said:
Just wait...if this thread stays open the trains might actually catch on fire
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If this all keeps up, and Trump is elected president here, the United States might just catch fire.

The world is fuuuuuucked right now. People are feeling more and more empowered by racist, nationalist a$$holes. Things are about to get real dark. These are horrible times, and a clear sign how history repeats itself.
 
Matthandyo said:
But they are the ones who keep pursuing it after the fact. Why exactly do you want them to keep wasting our money?
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The only reason they are wasting our money is because alot of them or a bunch of fakes and phony insiders who would get on their knees and toss would Hitleries salad without hesitation behind the scenes.

That doesnt mean we dont need real justice and have Hitlery out of politics and in prison for her genocidal crimes.
 
ax1, I definitely underestimated you. It looks like civil war isn't too far fetched anymore, except it's not going to be by angry white right-wing militias. It's going to be by the oppressed.

After yesterday's shootings by an ex-military man with a sniper rifle, do you still think we don't need any amendments to gun control laws? In the very least, do we not think possibly vets have ongoing trauma from war, and shouldn't own these sorts of weapons? Awaiting BigT's angry, threatening reply in 5,4, 3, 2......
 
Gutterpump said:
ax1, I definitely underestimated you. It looks like civil war isn't too far fetched anymore, except it's not going to be by angry white right-wing militias. It's going to be by the oppressed.

After yesterday's shootings by an ex-military man with a sniper rifle, do you still think we don't need any amendments to gun control laws? In the very least, do we not think possibly vets have ongoing trauma from war, and shouldn't own these sorts of weapons? Awaiting BigT's angry, threatening reply in 5,4, 3, 2......
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I do not support most of the already established gun control laws.

I do not support the idea of gun control on our returning vets. Just because 1 was an idiot, doesnt mean the other vets should have their 2nd Amendment rights diminished. As a matter of fact, I want our returning vets armed to the teeth.
 
Matthandyo said:
Mad bro?

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Nice click bait headline from a lefty website. Here's more from the politico article that that sentence was taken from and was omitted from the rest of your lefty article.

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You mad Bro
 
ax1 said:
I do not support most of the already established gun control laws.

I do not support the idea of gun control on our returning vets. Just because 1 was an idiot, doesnt mean the other vets should have their 2nd Amendment rights diminished. As a matter of fact, I want our returning vets armed to the teeth.
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Oh, so you want an already militarized police state to become even more militarized? By people who have been trained to kill, and suffer PTSD? Yep that's logical.
 
smith_69 said:
Actually I disagree, The president should stay out of situations like this and leave this to the local and state reps to handle. Everytime the president has step in and go on and on, people start to loose faith in the local, city and state officials (if they had any faith to begin with). Also, no matter what a president says, it will still not be right according to some people and then he has to spend days deflecting any comment that some idiot has to take out of context.

this is what we have local and state elected officials for. obviously something on a grand scale is different, but this is not the presidents job. Not saying to not give a sh1t- "press release from the White House hopes for resolution in this serious matter"

funny though how he speaks on situations like this, but for the life of me, I still cant figure out why he cant say radical?

For those who think he should have said something, how many days after did he speak about Benghazi? Oh that's right, it was based off a you tube video which in sighted a riot.

And where is the presidents speech about how our elected officials can break the rules and not be punished? Oh that's right, that would be silly because one of them is running for president. silly me
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how about if white extremists decide to retaliate? this could escalate really fast....if you have groups of blacks randomly killing whites and whites randomly killing blacks the national guard could be brought in and we could possibly have martial law in this country.

I truly believe Obama needs to give the speech of his live to try and restore some sense of order....this goes way beyond the state and local levels, imo.
 
Texas set a precedent last night by being the first time police have ever killed someone with a robot. This is a bit eerie / surreal.
 
Gutterpump said:
Oh, so you want an already militarized police state to become even more militarized? By people who have been trained to kill, and suffer PTSD? Yep that's logical.
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No of course I dont support the military police state.

I dont know why your paranoid about vets having guns. My neighbor is a Vietnam vet and very trained to kill, I sure damn home he is jacked I feel safer knowing he did.

The problem is the government views our returning vets as potential terrorists and would love to grab all their guns away from them. Once you let up and compromise they incrementally want more power and abuse power.

The best defense is self defense and the right to bear arms. If a trained killer with PTSD wants to kill, he can just go to the store and buy a rice cooker and make a bomb. I mean really, its illogical to think we can stop people from wanting to kill. Most vets with PTSD are good people and have no intention of wanting to kill. I mean, really after all these years there is 1 ( does he even have PTSD?) vet who went bonkers so lets infringe on the liberties of millions of them all.
 
Gutterpump said:
Texas set a precedent last night by being the first time police have ever killed someone with a robot. This is a bit eerie / surreal.
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wouldn't it be ironic if a group of pissed of blacks decided to kill some whites and they kill a bunch of cop hating liberals who supported their cause just because they were white?
 
thebigt said:
I truly believe Obama needs to give the speech of his live to try and restore some sense of order....this goes way beyond the state and local levels, imo.
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Obama has no interest in restoring order and sense, he is taking part of division and chaos. Obama just needs to be cuffed, thrown to the ground and read his rights and take his azz all the way to prison.
 
ax1 said:
Obama has no interest in restoring order and sense, he is taking part of division and chaos. Obama just needs to be cuffed, thrown to the ground and read his rights and take his azz all the way to prison.
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lol...he will probably use this as an argument for gun control-all the good that will do.
 
This is the problem, not our returning vets......

Black Panthers Call For Killing of Police During SXSW Armed March

“A pig is a pig that’s what I said, the only good pig is a pig that’s dead.”

“Oink! Oink! Bang! Bang!”

“Marching down the avenue, 20 more pigs and we’ll be through.”

 
Gutterpump said:
ax1, I definitely underestimated you. It looks like civil war isn't too far fetched anymore, except it's not going to be by angry white right-wing militias. It's going to be by the oppressed.

After yesterday's shootings by an ex-military man with a sniper rifle, do you still think we don't need any amendments to gun control laws? In the very least, do we not think possibly vets have ongoing trauma from war, and shouldn't own these sorts of weapons? Awaiting BigT's angry, threatening reply in 5,4, 3, 2......
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What makes you think he had ptsd? He was in the reserves as a carpenter/mason.
 
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Looks like homegrown terrorist Black Power group claims responsibility. Not angry army vet. He was just a pawn.
 
what is really ironic is that when the gunshots started the protesters ran the other way and expected the cops they were there protesting to protect them...
 
Gutterpump said:
Texas set a precedent last night by being the first time police have ever killed someone with a robot. This is a bit eerie / surreal.
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is a bit crazy
 
youngandfree said:
What makes you think he had ptsd? He was in the reserves as a carpenter/mason.
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Not him specifically, but a good deal of vets suffer PTSD after having witnessed and lived through, or even things they've committed during war. A lot of vets struggle with becoming normal citizens after. It's very common.
 
Because of intensifying civil strife over the recent killings of unarmed black men and boys, many Americans are wondering, “What’s wrong with our police?” Remarkably, one of the most compelling but unexplored explanations may rest with a FBI warning of October 2006, which reported that “White supremacist infiltration of law enforcement” represented a significant national threat.

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thebigt said:
wouldn't it be ironic if a group of pissed of blacks decided to kill some whites and they kill a bunch of cop hating liberals who supported their cause just because they were white?
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:laugh2:
 
thebigt said:
what is really ironic is that when the gunshots started the protesters ran the other way and expected the cops they were there protesting to protect them...
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But were they protesting the police or were they protesting police brutally?

Think thebigt think
 
Gutterpump said:
Because of intensifying civil strife over the recent killings of unarmed black men and boys, many Americans are wondering, “What’s wrong with our police?” Remarkably, one of the most compelling but unexplored explanations may rest with a FBI warning of October 2006, which reported that “White supremacist infiltration of law enforcement” represented a significant national threat.

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So they write an article based on a 7 page report that has 8o% of it redacted and claim to know what the FBI found.

The DHS also claim all returning veterans are potential domestic terrorists and present a bigger threat than radical muslims.
 
Matthandyo said:
But were they protesting the police or were they protesting police brutally?

Think thebigt think
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kind of splitting hairs here, protest is a protest- this isn't like saying I like lemonade but dislike lemons
 
smith_69 said:
kind of splitting hairs here, protest is a protest- this isn't like saying I like lemonade but dislike lemons
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So all cops are bad then by that logic of the reasoning behind the protest. Even I don't believe that.

It's weird then, protesters were actually taking pictures with the copse guess they were just trolling then?

*bricksforbrains*
 
Matthandyo said:
So all cops are bad then by that logic of the reasoning behind the protest. Even I don't believe that.

It's weird then, protesters were actually taking pictures with the copse guess they were just trolling then?

*bricksforbrains*
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it was actually cops who were taking pictures with civilians. in the end, a protest is a protest. the meaning you decide to put to it is for you to decide, not I.

if you yourself are being protested, in the end, does it make a difference what all the reasons are or the fact that you are simply being protested?
 
Matthandyo said:
So all cops are bad then by that logic of the reasoning behind the protest. Even I don't believe that.

It's weird then, protesters were actually taking pictures with the copse guess they were just trolling then?

*bricksforbrains*
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why shouldn't they troll...that's what you are doing!!!
 
What he's saying is the cops werent being protested. Police BRUTALITY was being protested. So yeah, there is 100% a difference there. Everyone has a right to protest peacefully.
 
thebigt said:
why shouldn't they troll...that's what you are doing!!!
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[video=youtube;Wo8Ny7nvYUg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo8Ny7nvYUg[/video]
 
Things are getting crazy in NYC as I'm sure it is all over. My brother in law who's NYPD is getting things thrown at him constantly, and harassed (as is the rest of the force). He fears for his own life now daily and his wife (who works EMT) is extremely scared for him right now. Scary times.
 
jswain34 said:
What he's saying is the cops werent being protested. Police BRUTALITY was being protested. So yeah, there is 100% a difference there. Everyone has a right to protest peacefully.
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what about when protest's shutdown major thoroughfares running thru cities in essence shutting off travel.....don't those citizens have a right to travel?


what about when motorists have people jumping on their cars in blocked traffic and it is called a 'peaceful' protest? I think many of those people just might have felt intimidated-what about their rights?
 
youngandfree said:
So they write an article based on a 7 page report that has 8o% of it redacted and claim to know what the FBI found.

The DHS also claim all returning veterans are potential domestic terrorists and present a bigger threat than radical muslims.
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Several key events preceded the report. A federal court found that members of a Los Angeles sheriffs department formed a Neo Nazi gang and habitually terrorized the black community. Later, the Chicago police department fired Jon Burge, a detective with reputed ties to the Ku Klux Klan, after discovering he tortured over 100 black male suspects. Thereafter, the Mayor of Cleveland discovered that many of the city police locker rooms were infested with “White Power” graffiti. Years later, a Texas sheriff department discovered that two of its deputies were recruiters for the Klan.
 
thebigt

this is what I was referring too

"“We’d like to see the president make one speech that speaks to everybody instead of one speech that speaks to black people as they grieve and one speech that speaks to police officers as they grieve,” said Jim Pasco, the executive director of the Fraternal Order of Police, which represents 330,000 officers. “We don’t need two presidents, we only need one. We need one who works to unify the United States.”
 
smith_69 said:
thebigt

this is what I was referring too

"“We’d like to see the president make one speech that speaks to everybody instead of one speech that speaks to black people as they grieve and one speech that speaks to police officers as they grieve,” said Jim Pasco, the executive director of the Fraternal Order of Police, which represents 330,000 officers. “We don’t need two presidents, we only need one. We need one who works to unify the United States.”
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I really thought that with the magnitude of what is happening Obama would at least attempt to unify.

I should have known better.
 
thebigt said:
what about when protest's shutdown major thoroughfares running thru cities in essence shutting off travel.....don't those citizens have a right to travel?


what about when motorists have people jumping on their cars in blocked traffic and it is called a 'peaceful' protest? I think many of those people just might have felt intimidated-what about their rights?
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Then you'd literally have to shut down every protest in any major city. Any protest, for any reason, would not be allowed. You want to protest in Indianapolis about your 2nd amendment rights being infringed on? Too bag BigT, you aint allowed anymore. Or what about parades? Should we shut down parades too? Because you know, those block people's right to travel too. PEACEFUL protesters are acting fully within their first amendment rights. You have no right to selectively allow what people protest about.

People jumping on other people's cars isn't peaceful...so i dont know what you expect me to say about that. People jumping on/damaging other people's personal property should be arrested or have to compensate that person for the damages they caused.

Gutterpump said:
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Scary. Real ****in scary. Is this really what both sides want? I mean honestly this is just fukked.
 
jswain34 said:
Then you'd literally have to shut down every protest in any major city. Any protest, for any reason, would not be allowed. You want to protest in Indianapolis about your 2nd amendment rights being infringed on? Too bag BigT, you aint allowed anymore. Or what about parades? Should we shut down parades too? Because you know, those block people's right to travel too. PEACEFUL protesters are acting fully within their first amendment rights. You have no right to selectively allow what people protest about.

People jumping on other people's cars isn't peaceful...so i dont know what you expect me to say about that. People jumping on/damaging other people's personal property should be arrested or have to compensate that person for the damages they caused.



Scary. Real ****in scary. Is this really what both sides want? I mean honestly this is just fukked.
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you make some really valid points...i'll leave it at that.
 
Gutterpump said:
Things are getting out of hand all over :(
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this may very well be the 'end times'....I have never seen things even close to being this bad, and i've seen a lot of things.

if the white terror groups retaliate all hell will break loose. doesn't Obama realize this? he needs to LEAD!!!
 
Newt Gingrich: 'Normal, white Americans ... don't understand being black in America'

Very shocked but impressed this is coming from Newt Gingrich!

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Gutterpump said:
Several key events preceded the report. A federal court found that members of a Los Angeles sheriffs department formed a Neo Nazi gang and habitually terrorized the black community. Later, the Chicago police department fired Jon Burge, a detective with reputed ties to the Ku Klux Klan, after discovering he tortured over 100 black male suspects. Thereafter, the Mayor of Cleveland discovered that many of the city police locker rooms were infested with “White Power” graffiti. Years later, a Texas sheriff department discovered that two of its deputies were recruiters for the Klan.
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But that report didn't show any references to those incidents, at least not in the publicly released and redacted version.
 
I am enjoying living in my gun restricted environment now
 
Gutterpump said:
Newt Gingrich: 'Normal, white Americans ... don't understand being black in America'

Very shocked but impressed this is coming from Newt Gingrich!

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blacks are much more likely to be killed by black on black violence than by cops.

my black friends tell me they have to act differently when they are in black neighborhoods than when they are around whites...one of my good black friends I grew up with actually told me he feels safer around whites than in predominately black neighborhoods!!!
 
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