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Being that I'm Christian and believe everything our Holy Bible tells us; we are all descendants of Noah who was a descendant of Adam and Eve.

Done, stop this BS. It's really pointless to debate something that's based on opinion, faith, life experience.

New topic....did you see Clinton is getting worse and worse?
 
Being that I'm Christian and believe everything our Holy Bible tells us; we are all descendants of Noah who was a descendant of Adam and Eve.

Done, stop this BS. It's really pointless to debate something that's based on opinion, faith, life experience.

New topic....did you see Clinton is getting worse and worse?

She sucks.
 
I predicted this a long time ago, Clinton gets nomination after convention she gets stripped and the DNC will hand select Biden or Kerry effectively screwing Bernie over and the voters.
 
I'm proud of the way my white skin glows in the moonlight!!!

And I am proud how my white skin reacts when its exposed to sunlight, it first goes pink, then very red and then turns brown, lol.

On a serious note maybe we should rephrase pride in this debate, black and gay people are not necessarily proud they are just not ashamed ( and nor they should be) of what they are, so I will say I am not ashamed to be a white English man
 
And I am proud how my white skin reacts when its exposed to sunlight, it first goes pink, then very red and then turns brown, lol.

On a serious note maybe we should rephrase pride in this debate, black and gay people are not necessarily proud they are just not ashamed ( and nor they should be) of what they are, so I will say I am not ashamed to be a white English man
That's the definition of pride I've been using this whole time, but it's wrong according to Mr. Gutterpump. People of every color, race, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, should be "proud," as in not ashamed and also deserving of respect and equal treatment. I don't think anyone should really feel that they accomplished anything because of something that is completely out of their control (black/white or straight/gay).
 
I predicted this a long time ago, Clinton gets nomination after convention she gets stripped and the DNC will hand select Biden or Kerry effectively screwing Bernie over and the voters.

they are going to 'strip' trump....

the republicans just don't get it, if they had been doing what they were supposed to be doing and fighting against stuff like Obamacare there never would have been a trump movement. ....but no, the republicans sit on their hands and do nothing against obama for over 7 years because they were afraid of being called racists...here comes trump who isn't afraid of the name calling and says stuff the republicans were to chickensh1t to say, and the republicans get pissed because trump is calling them out, lol.

I don't agree with trump on many things[the Mexican judge being one of them]but the whole trump thing is backlash over how the elected republicans have let Obama walk all over them....great Caesar's ghost the republicans have the majority of both houses.
 
I think you are being a little dense on this matter.

Did you know that not all black people have had ancestors who suffered through slavery? You're viewing 'blacks' through the lens of African Americans, but ignoring other majorities elsewhere. I honestly despise using the terms 'black' and 'white' to identify people - in America, they are Americans.

You can be proud of whatever reason you can think of and you don't need someone else's approval to make that so. Again, who are you to say why someone can or cannot be proud?

I really haven't made many statements on the matter so most of you are putting words in my mouth.

Like I said, I think people should be proud of their accomplishments, not just because of a color.

We can drop the convo if you guys want. I don't think we're gonna get far with it and it's not worth gettin crazy over. I know most of you aren't racist.

Game of Thrones finale night. Time to get this party started!
 
I really haven't made many statements on the matter so most of you are putting words in my mouth.

Like I said, I think people should be proud of their accomplishments, not just because of a color.

We can drop the convo if you guys want. I don't think we're gonna get far with it and it's not worth gettin crazy over. I know most of you aren't racist.

Game of Thrones finale night. Time to get this party started!
I think that is a good idea. At the end of the day, I'm not even sure that we all really completely disagree on the issue, and we may be arguing over semantics and/or using different definitions of the same term. I agree that people shouldn't be "proud" (as in feel accomplished) regarding the color of their skin and/or their sexual orientation, but that they should be "proud" (as in not ashamed, and respecting themselves and feeling as if they deserve respect and equal treatment from others) regardless of their skin color and/or sexual orientation.
 
they are going to 'strip' trump....

the republicans just don't get it, if they had been doing what they were supposed to be doing and fighting against stuff like Obamacare there never would have been a trump movement. ....but no, the republicans sit on their hands and do nothing against obama for over 7 years because they were afraid of being called racists...here comes trump who isn't afraid of the name calling and says stuff the republicans were to chickensh1t to say, and the republicans get pissed because trump is calling them out, lol.

I don't agree with trump on many things[the Mexican judge being one of them]but the whole trump thing is backlash over how the elected republicans have let Obama walk all over them....great Caesar's ghost the republicans have the majority of both houses.

I can't wait for these VP picks, and debates, this will be raw entertainment. Hope Trump calls out on Hitleries crimes right to her face.
 
they are going to 'strip' trump....

the republicans just don't get it, if they had been doing what they were supposed to be doing and fighting against stuff like Obamacare there never would have been a trump movement. ....but no, the republicans sit on their hands and do nothing against obama for over 7 years because they were afraid of being called racists...here comes trump who isn't afraid of the name calling and says stuff the republicans were to chickensh1t to say, and the republicans get pissed because trump is calling them out, lol.

I don't agree with trump on many things[the Mexican judge being one of them]but the whole trump thing is backlash over how the elected republicans have let Obama walk all over them....great Caesar's ghost the republicans have the majority of both houses.

That isn't true rebulicans fought Obama care like crazy. We actually have a big issue in Congress were both rebulicans and Democrats won't read, let alone vote, for on any bill that isn't of there party.

Sure Obama is sh1t but are Congress is worse.

Another issue is the Congressmen are just trying to make legislation, for the pure fact of making legislation; as it gets them re-elected (somehow). They don't care if the bill is necessary or not, or even a good bill. Are forefather intended for Congress to only make bills will only absolutely necessary.
 
I can't wait for these VP picks, and debates, this will be raw entertainment. Hope Trump calls out on Hitleries crimes right to her face.

Yes damn murder. But I also hate trump. I wanted to contested election and Paul Ryan to take over but thats obviously didn't happen
 
Yes damn murder. But I also hate trump. I wanted to contested election and Paul Ryan to take over but thats obviously didn't happen

don't give up the ship...many delegates have filed a suit to get out of 1st ballot vote for trump. this isn't over yet.....

i have said this before...if republicans strip trump i will vote for Hillary, and like George will i will leave the republican party.
 
don't give up the ship...many delegates have filed a suit to get out of 1st ballot vote for trump. this isn't over yet.....

i have said this before...if republicans strip trump i will vote for Hillary, and like George will i will leave the republican party.
Do you think that whoever they may select over Trump would be worse then Hillary, or would it be on principle that you wouldn't vote for the Republican in that case?
 
Do you think that whoever they may select over Trump would be worse then Hillary, or would it be on principle that you wouldn't vote for the Republican in that case?

I think ANY republican would be better than Hillary....purely on principle!!!
 
There is doubt in my mind that either trump or Hillary will start ww3

Hitlery already started WWIII (actually I think we are on WWIV now to be honest) by funding, training and arming these "moderate rebels" for creating a bloody civil war and support regime change to a group now knows as ISIS (or ISL if your name is Barry Soetoro, aka Obama)
 
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Why are Brits doing Nazi salutes? You pride yourself on the war against Hitler and the Nazi's to then become them? Please explain. I'm all ears.
 
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Why are Brits doing Nazi salutes? You pride yourself on the war against Hitler and the Nazi's to then become them? Please explain. I'm all ears.
Some people are stupid. That's all I got.

Unless... And I don't have the context here, it is a protest where they are comparing whoever they are protesting against to Nazis?
 
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Why are Brits doing Nazi salutes? You pride yourself on the war against Hitler and the Nazi's to then become them? Please explain. I'm all ears.

Whats worse, priding yourself with a nazi solute or priding yourself with the EU which roots come from the Nazi's?
 
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Why are Brits doing Nazi salutes? You pride yourself on the war against Hitler and the Nazi's to then become them? Please explain. I'm all ears.

What a handful of right wing extremists protesting and that's a representation of 64 million people is it, behave yourself.
 
I honestly don't know, but the world is going to $hit really sad to see this type of $hit on the global rise

I hope the rest of the countries quickly rise up before its too late, the EU is working on setting up its own EU army and when that happens no country will able to leave via peaceful democratic means ever again, thats assuming the UK does really pull out because that aint over yet.
 
Found an alarming video (English) about the refugee crisis in Germany, posting it here for you guys with too much time on hand.
Apparently the heart of Europe will soon be fugged.

[video=youtube;dF9V8POmuxg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF9V8POmuxg[/video]
 
I hope the rest of the countries quickly rise up before its too late, the EU is working on setting up its own EU army and when that happens no country will able to leave via peaceful democratic means ever again, thats assuming the UK does really pull out because that aint over yet.

Pulling out of the Eu is one of the worst possible things GB could have done, moreover it was an extremely miscalculated move from David Cameron. Financial institutions with strong ties to London are already considering jumping ship (foregin banks have already started shifting operations to EU), tech founders will consider moving hubs outside GB, and many other large corporations will consider moving bases outside GB. European markets are tanking, and financial institutions are still recovering from the last recession, not more than 8 years ago.

The world markets dropped 2.8 TRILLION in 1 day.

It's a **** show that GB would allow such a decision to put to public vote and place no super majority voting structure on it. Roughly 50% of GB populous are under educated, and many didn't even know what the EU was before voting. David Cameron wanted an even playing field because he was certain he would win his gamble for the remain vote, putting the issue of the EU to rest for the rest of his tenure, but he underestimated the growth of the leave campaign and didn't do enough to counter the 350 million euro a week claim the leave campaigners made (which they lied about).

It's still early days, but Quora and other sites are blowing up about how disastrous this is likely to be.

The UK will likely fall apart, and even London wants independence from Britain. The latter won't occur, but it goes to show just how divided the country became overnight.
 
Pulling out of the Eu is one of the worst possible things GB could have done, moreover it was an extremely miscalculated move from David Cameron. Financial institutions with strong ties to London are already considering jumping ship (foregin banks have already started shifting operations to EU), tech founders will consider moving hubs outside GB, and many other large corporations will consider moving bases outside GB. European markets are tanking, and financial institutions are still recovering from the last recession, not more than 8 years ago.

The world markets dropped 2.8 TRILLION in 1 day.

It's a **** show that GB would allow such a decision to put to public vote and place no super majority voting structure on it. Roughly 50% of GB populous are under educated, and many didn't even know what the EU was before voting. David Cameron wanted an even playing field because he was certain he would win his gamble for the remain vote, putting the issue of the EU to rest for the rest of his tenure, but he underestimated the growth of the leave campaign and didn't do enough to counter the 350 million euro a week claim the leave campaigners made (which they lied about).

It's still early days, but Quora and other sites are blowing up about how disastrous this is likely to be.

The UK will likely fall apart, and even London wants independence from Britain. The latter won't occur, but it goes to show just how divided the country became overnight.

Central banking is more dangerous than standing armies.

EU's entire creation was to create a superstate run by the mega-elite with the deception of economic opportunity.

Now if you agree with foreign unelected bureaucrats running the laws and regulations of the land rather than elected officials by the people of the sovereign state we will never be on the same page on this, lol.

Democracy > dictatorship
 
Found an alarming video (English) about the refugee crisis in Germany, posting it here for you guys with too much time on hand.
Apparently the heart of Europe will soon be fugged.

[video=youtube;dF9V8POmuxg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF9V8POmuxg[/video]

I truly believe there is only 1 choice, either leave the EU or lose your country to completion.

EU must be eliminated.
 
I truly believe there is only 1 choice, either leave the EU or lose your country to completion.

EU must be eliminated.

Ya I agree it has done nothing but lower the economy of the more wealthy EU country and barely raise the poorest.
 
Ya I agree it has done nothing but lower the economy of the more wealthy EU country and barely raise the poorest.

The economic argument is so comical to me, people are enslaved to central banking and their rigged $$$ . Countries bullied when they want a real say by these unelected bureaucrats. Thats why we have so many problems in the US too due to the private Federal Reserve but thats another story.

You can have your own country in Europe and do BETTER than the EU.

Look at Switzerland and Bulgaria, they are not ever a part of EU and they are doing just fine. Im confident in the British people that they will make their economy thrive, as long as they do the right things of course.

The economy of Switzerland is one of the world's most stable economies.
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The world markets dropped 2.8 TRILLION in 1 day.

The private Federal Reserve stole so much money 2.8 trillion is something you can barely do anything with. Heck, even Rumsfeld announced 2.3 trillion in military funding went missing the day before 9/11 and that case was tossed like a piece of used toilet paper, lol
 
Central banking is more dangerous than standing armies.

EU's entire creation was to create a superstate run by the mega-elite with the deception of economic opportunity.

Now if you agree with foreign unelected bureaucrats running the laws and regulations of the land rather than elected officials by the people of the sovereign state we will never be on the same page on this, lol.

Democracy > dictatorship

You bring conspiracy into every single thread. Literally every single one. Almost all of the 27 countries currently in the EU, voted by referendum to become a part of it. It's main purpose exists to prevent war and ease trade in between EU countries because countries in trade are less likely to go to war. But of course in your view, everything is done with an ulterior motive and no-one can be trusted.

Do you have any sources for what you say?

Time will tell if Britain has made the right choice, but early predictions suggest this decision is the beginning of its demise.
 
You bring conspiracy into every single thread. Literally every single one. Almost all of the 27 countries currently in the EU, voted by referendum to become a part of it. It's main purpose exists to prevent war and ease trade in between EU countries because countries in trade are less likely to go to war. But of course in your view, everything is done with an ulterior motive and no-one can be trusted.

Do you have any sources for what you say?

Time will tell if Britain has made the right choice, but early predictions suggest this decision is the beginning of its demise.

Right and they were lied to into it, and yeah right, prevent war? LOL! EU is a bunch of war mongering azzholes.
 
The economic argument is so comical to me, people are enslaved to central banking and their rigged $$$ . Countries bullied when they want a real say by these unelected bureaucrats. Thats why we have so many problems in the US too due to the private Federal Reserve but thats another story.

You can have your own country in Europe and do BETTER than the EU.

Look at Switzerland and Bulgaria, they are not ever a part of EU and they are doing just fine. Im confident in the British people that they will make their economy thrive, as long as they do the right things of course.

The economy of Switzerland is one of the world's most stable economies.
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Bulgaria is an industrialised upper-middle-income country according to the World Bank.[14] It has experienced rapid economic growth in recent years...
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Lmao, they both rely on the EU for sustainibility:

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The European Union is Switzerland's largest trading partner,

Britain could survive if it enters the EFTA, but they need to negotiate that with the EU

These negotiations resulted in a total of ten treaties, negotiated in two phases, the sum of which makes a large share of EU law applicable to Switzerland.
 
Right and they were lied to into it, and yeah right, prevent war? LOL! EU is a bunch of war mongering azzholes.

Really? Who have they gone to war with?
 
But of course in your view, everything is done with an ulterior motive and no-one can be trusted.

Do you have any sources for what you say?

Uh duh Im a tin foiled hat conspiracy theorist and live in my mothers basements and I communicate with with the majority of GB people who are vastly uneducated and wear tin foils just like me duh huh uhhh

Tis here from one of the founding fathers of the EU is um duh uhhhhhh

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Oh, bulgaria is in the EU now.
 
Uh duh Im a tin foiled hat conspiracy theorist and live in my mothers basements and I communicate with with the majority of GB people who are vastly uneducated and wear tin foils just like me duh huh uhhh

Tis here from one of the founding fathers of the EU is um duh uhhhhhh

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“Europe’s nations should be guided towards the superstate without their people understanding what is happening. This can be accomplished by successive steps, each disguised as having an economic purpose but which will irreversibly lead to federation.”
Ah! See the devious nature of the European elites, trying to guide us without our knowledge down a path we haven’t been consulted on! How dare they! (The fact that this quote is an entirely made-up load of old bollocks that Monnet never actually said or wrote is neither here nor there… If you repeat something often enough then it becomes true – or at least true enough to enable a justification of the ongoing belief in the veracity of the idea behind the belief…)

But hey, believe everything on the internet, right?
 
Really? Who have they gone to war with?

I wear this tin foil hat so why should I answer this?

Obviously the EU hasnt established their totalitarian super army yet so there is no direct EU war, but they have backed most of this stuff that has caused chaos from the middle east to eastern europe.
 
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“Europe’s nations should be guided towards the superstate without their people understanding what is happening. This can be accomplished by successive steps, each disguised as having an economic purpose but which will irreversibly lead to federation.”
Ah! See the devious nature of the European elites, trying to guide us without our knowledge down a path we haven’t been consulted on! How dare they! (The fact that this quote is an entirely made-up load of old bollocks that Monnet never actually said or wrote is neither here nor there… If you repeat something often enough then it becomes true – or at least true enough to enable a justification of the ongoing belief in the veracity of the idea behind the belief…)

But hey, believe everything on the internet, right?

There is a HUGE difference between being a genius and politics. Both dont necessarily belong together.

Now Einstein obviously wasnt a EU insider and did not know of its secret intentions as the actual founding fathers did.

I bet Einstein didnt have a chance to read the 176,000 page regulation book that the EU enforces on all its nations.

But you on the other hand like unelected dictators running your country, so if thats what you want so be it.

Democracy > dictatorship.
 
I wear this tin foil hat so why should I answer this?

Obviously the EU hasnt established their totalitarian super army yet so there is no direct EU war, but they have backed most of this stuff that has caused chaos from the middle east to eastern europe.

When, since EU's creation have any European nations within that agreement gone to war with each other? I must be missing something.

The Swiss Federal Council, which had been in favour of EU membership, had advised the population to vote against this referendum since the preconditions for the opening of negotiations had not been met.

Even though Switzerland is not part of the Eu, they rely heavily on them

The European Free Trade Association (EFTA) is an intergovernmental trade organisation and free trade area consisting of four European states: Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway, and Switzerland.[1] The organisation operates in parallel with the European Union (EU), and all four member states participate in the EU's single market.[2]

Yup, the EU should disintegrate because it helps no-one :rolleyes:
 
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