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NutraChem said:
Not kosh bro, not kosh (j/k)

Dude, muslums can eat it! That's just a popular misconception. An old coworker who used to live someplace over there told me you just have to be cool with the cleric and use the right code talk. He called it 'Baghdad Chicken' or something like that, lol. But no reptile meat, that is strictly forbidden for realz.
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Idk man, one of my buddies is Muslim and came over from Saudi Arabia to go to school here and he won't eat pork.
 
Gutterpump said:
I just came up with another GREAT idea. Maybe we should build a wall along the Bible Belt, to keep ALL other religions out. Making Muricaaa Christian again
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Nah but I'll help you build a bridge directly back to Canada
 
NutraChem said:
Haha, he's a canadian livin' in jersey. :) nuf said!
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Nope I'm a NYer close though. In case anyone's fairly new in here. I'm a Canadian who moved to NYC 10yrs ago, now officially a NYer, Brooklynite to be exact. I'm owed that title from all the gd tax I pay here.

I'm also not a finance monkey, saying that for the people I've told that I work off Wall St. I'm a graphic designer / video producer for one of the worlds largest finance companies though, which makes me kinda of a cool type of evil person I suppose.
 
Gutterpump said:
Don't hate on me because I'm a ghey Canadian Mooslim. Hate on me because I drop into crossfit once a week
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Wow, icing on the cake. The fact that you crossfit is like a combination of all your other horrible traits wrapped up into one.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
If you only go to Church once a week are you still a Christian?
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lol this made me laugh. Good one :) And good point. I know many 'Christians' who go to Church only on Easter. Doesn't make them a Christian.

And for the record, I'm a hybrid athlete, I powerlift and bodybuild, but I like to drop in on crossfit classes here and there just for fun and do scaled cardio work. I need a structured program, or else I won't do it. I also match up the class with what I've got planned lifting wise that day (cherry pick my workouts). This might be too difficult for durdeedurr to understand though, right BamBam0319 :)
 
muscleupcrohn said:
If you only go to Church once a week are you still a Christian?
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I think that's what the majority of Christians do. Lol. Then you have people like my dad who considers himself Catholic but hasn't been to a church service in 5 years, with the exception of his father's funeral service last month.
 
Gutterpump said:
lol this made me laugh. Good one :) And good point. I know many 'Christians' who go to Church only on Easter. Doesn't make them a Christian.

And for the record, I'm a hybrid athlete, I powerlift and bodybuild, but I like to drop in on crossfit classes here and there just for fun and do scaled cardio work. I need a structured program, or else I won't do it. I also match up the class with what I've got planned lifting wise that day (cherry pick my workouts). This might be too difficult for durdeedurr to understand though, right BamBam0319 :)
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Yep, too many words. Can't read. Rely on my gunz to does my literatures for me.
 
Gutterpump said:
lol this made me laugh. Good one :) And good point. I know many 'Christians' who go to Church only on Easter. Doesn't make them a Christian.

And for the record, I'm a hybrid athlete, I powerlift and bodybuild, but I like to drop in on crossfit classes here and there just for fun and do scaled cardio work. I need a structured program, or else I won't do it. I also match up the class with what I've got planned lifting wise that day (cherry pick my workouts). This might be too difficult for durdeedurr to understand though, right BamBam0319 :)
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I've always felt that, if there is a God worth believing in, he'd value character and actions more than attendance. Sometimes the people who pray the loudest sin the most and are the most full of sh*t. I've met great, caring, compassionate atheists, and selfish, cruel, and hateful Christians.

I don't see anything wrong with doing crossfit once in a while. My issue is with treating every workout like it's a competition; sacrificing form and technique on technical, compound lifts to get more reps or a better time during day-to-day training.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
I don't see anything wrong with doing crossfit once in a while. My issue is with treating every workout like it's a competition; sacrificing form and technique on technical, compound lifts to get more reps or a better time during day-to-day training.
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For the record, I have the same opinion of crossfit. I actually lead a group workout class at my gym that incorporates ideas similar to crossfit. Good stuff. Just will never advocate "kipping" or sacrificing form on any exercise, really.
It's just so fun to hate on crossfit
 
muscleupcrohn said:
I've always felt that, if there is a God worth believing in, he'd value character and actions more than attendance. Sometimes the people who pray the loudest sin the most and are the most full of sh*t. I've met great, caring, compassionate atheists, and selfish, cruel, and hateful Christians.

I don't see anything wrong with doing crossfit once in a while. My issue is with treating every workout like it's a competition; sacrificing form and technique on technical, compound lifts to get more reps or a better time during day-to-day training.
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I agree on all accounts, I periodize all of my training. IMO crossfit is a great way to get people interested in fitness though. Great atmosphere and family vibes to it. But in the long term, unless the individual is actually an elite lifter, crossfit can really put a roadblock on any fitness goals.

Also agreed about Christians, although I try to not be one to judge (regardless of my bit of trolling on here from time to time where it might seem like I judge). With that being said, even though from day to day I try to be a nice person (offline) and be truly helpful and a positive influence on others, I must be destined for hell :O
 
Gutterpump said:
I agree on all accounts, I periodize all of my training. IMO crossfit is a great way to get people interested in fitness though. Great atmosphere and family vibes to it. But in the long term, unless the individual is actually an elite lifter, crossfit can really put a roadblock on any fitness goals.

Also agreed about Christians, although I try to not be one to judge (regardless of my bit of trolling on here from time to time where it might seem like I judge). With that being said, even though from day to day I try to be a nice person (offline) and be truly helpful and a positive influence on others, I must be destined for hell :O
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I have a friend who is a very religious Christian. He's a nice guy, but his view that ANYONE who doesn't believe in Christ is going to hell. Period. Of course, that royally screws over a good portion of human history, as well as people who have just never heard of Jesus. I asked him to write down all of the qualities that Jesus or a good/ideal Christian would have, and I wrote down a list of my own, a list that would be perfectly doable by an atheist, Buddhist, Pastafarian, etc. Both lists were identical. I asked if this non-Christian person, who has all of the qualities and virtues of Jesus and the ideal Christian would go to hell. He said yes. I just can't prescribe to that belief.
 
Great post muscleupcrohn I truly wonder what goes through some people's minds, and how certain people can live with such a warped sense of logic. To say that you'd need to believe, or follow a specific religion, to gain any sort of afterlife, is certainly asinine and short sighted. There are extreme fanatics like this in all walks of life/religions.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
I have a friend who is a very religious Christian. He's a nice guy, but his view that ANYONE who doesn't believe in Christ is going to hell. Period. Of course, that royally screws over a good portion of human history, as well as people who have just never heard of Jesus. I asked him to write down all of the qualities that Jesus or a good/ideal Christian would have, and I wrote down a list of my own, a list that would be perfectly doable by an atheist, Buddhist, Pastafarian, etc. Both lists were identical. I asked if this non-Christian person, who has all of the qualities and virtues of Jesus and the ideal Christian would go to hell. He said yes. I just can't prescribe to that belief.
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Pastafarian... Now that's a religion I can follow. ;)
 
While we're on topic, I'm curious what religious folk in here think about those who do bad things, to bad people. Take for example, Daredevil, or Batman, but real life people (not actually them). Would they also be destined for a positive afterlife?

Interested to hear, because of the strong belief Christians have of purgatory.

(Sorry for the comic book references hehe)
 
Gutterpump said:
Great post muscleupcrohn I truly wonder what goes through some people's minds, and how certain people can live with such a warped sense of logic. To say that you'd need to believe, or follow a specific religion, to gain any sort of afterlife, is certainly asinine and short sighted. There are extreme fanatics like this in all walks of life/religions.
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It's the easy way out; a sense of comfort and certainty in the afterlife for them. Many people, all people really, "sin" or do bad things, we are humans after all. A lot of people really have no desire to stop sinning either (I'm taking real sins; stealing, cheating, killing, etc, not having consensual sex before marriage or eating pork), and they may be worried about not getting into the afterlife. But there's a way to still sin and guarantee a spot in heaven? That sounds very appealing, no?

I'm not against religion at all, and I do go to Church and/or Temple every so often (more spiritual than religious really), but organized religion has a way of being abused and perverted as a tool for power and control. Not just Islam either. One needs only look back at history.
 
Gutterpump said:
While we're on topic, I'm curious what religious folk in here think about those who do bad things, to bad people. Take for example, Daredevil, or Batman, but real life people (not actually them). Would they also be destined for a positive afterlife?

Interested to hear, because of the strong belief Christians have of purgatory.

(Sorry for the comic book references hehe)
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Reincarnation is a very interesting topic for me. I don't feel that many people have lived long enough, and done enough, good or bad, to deserve eternal perfection or suffering.

Side note: some professor (Harvard maybe?) had a "simulation theory" that each time we create a simulation in which the inhabitants believe they are real, it increases the odds that we ourselves are in a simulation. If that simulation creates another conscious simulation, it's even more likely, etc. That gives an interesting concept of God and the afterlife if you can be dumped into another simulation after "death." Science/physics is a lot of laws/numbers/formulas.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
It's the easy way out; a sense of comfort and certainty in the afterlife for them. Many people, all people really, "sin" or do bad things, we are humans after all. A lot of people really have no desire to stop sinning either (I'm taking real sins; stealing, cheating, killing, etc, not having consensual sex before marriage or eating pork), and they may be worried about not getting into the afterlife. But there's a way to still sin and guarantee a spot in heaven? That sounds very appealing, no?

I'm not against religion at all, and I do go to Church and/or Temple every so often (more spiritual than religious really), but organized religion has a way of being abused and perverted as a tool for power and control. Not just Islam either. One needs only look back at history.
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Ahhh I hear you. You're much like me then. I grew up Catholic, but I respect all religions, and not so certain that I consider myself belonging to one group or another. I've even considered that the devil may just be a Promethean type of deity as well.
 
I was contacted by someone Ive known a long time now and I trust and have some information that you will hear here first. This comes from a direct link to someone who was there inside the bar.

There were 3 shooters, not 1. Two got away.

I would personally say for certain at this point Im 95% positive this is an inside job.

Take this information for whatever you like, I know its true coming from who I heard this from.
 
BamBam0319 said:
Idk man, one of my buddies is Muslim and came over from Saudi Arabia to go to school here and he won't eat pork.
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My coworker buddy was Iranian. Maybe they're allowed to exercise a few more liberties or something?

And my other basketball buddy from Lebanon, he's the one who told me evil spirits can inhabit the reptiles so snake or lizard meat was haram with no exceptions. He had no problem with pork either though.

If you're out there Samir, I didn't forget! But I did forget how to write my name in Lebanese, lol. I remember it looked pretty cool though. :p
 
NutraChem said:
Not kosh bro, not kosh (j/k)

Dude, muslums can eat it! That's just a popular misconception. An old coworker who used to live someplace over there told me you just have to be cool with the cleric and use the right code talk. He called it 'Baghdad Chicken' or something like that, lol. But no reptile meat, that is strictly forbidden for realz.
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Well, then it proves I'm not muslim that I don't even know when a misconception is a misconception :)

They aren't SUPPOSED to eat pig. It's a dirty animal. But it's delicious none the less.

Animals are just so delicious.
 
bighulksmash said:
Yes its also called VEAL. LIKE DEER IS CALLED VENISON. veal parm is ****ing awesome.
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Veal is delicious - but veal is a baby cow, not lamb.
 
ax1 said:
I was contacted by someone Ive known a long time now and I trust and have some information that you will hear here first. This comes from a direct link to someone who was there inside the bar.

There were 3 shooters, not 1. Two got away.

I would personally say for certain at this point Im 95% positive this is an inside job.

Take this information for whatever you like, I know its true coming from who I heard this from.
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Stuff is definitely weird
 
muscleupcrohn said:
I have a friend who is a very religious Christian. He's a nice guy, but his view that ANYONE who doesn't believe in Christ is going to hell. Period. Of course, that royally screws over a good portion of human history, as well as people who have just never heard of Jesus. I asked him to write down all of the qualities that Jesus or a good/ideal Christian would have, and I wrote down a list of my own, a list that would be perfectly doable by an atheist, Buddhist, Pastafarian, etc. Both lists were identical. I asked if this non-Christian person, who has all of the qualities and virtues of Jesus and the ideal Christian would go to hell. He said yes. I just can't prescribe to that belief.
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The problem isn't 'Christianity' per say, it's you're friend's understanding of it. The Bible actually states clearly that believing is not a pre-requisite, and that many 'believers' are not as saved as they might think. Romans 2 says that God doesn't even judge you, you're own conscience will judge you! So even if you've never heard of Jesus, or believed in something else that kept the same values, you're still good to go if you're own conscience clears you. See:

11 For there is no respect of persons with God.

12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;

13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another

So the Bible essentially states that you'll judge yourself, and having heard about it doesn't even matter if you lived it. You basically get to grade your own test but you can't cheat since you bear your own witness! Pretty slick system actually, lol.

People who say everybody is going to Hell are generally as lost as the ones they say it too, and it's absurd to say that a just God (which is what Christians say they believe in!) would judge a man guilty for no fault of his own. By definition, that would not be a "just" God, and it's not fair to Christianity because the Bible doesn't really say that crap.
 
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