Donald Trump running for president
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Misfit28
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Obama has been a puss when it comes to defending this country. War is an inevitable occurrence being one of the strongest countries in the world, we will always have enemies. So my question to you is, would you rather have a passive president when that time comes? Or someone that wants to kick some serious ass and put all of us hard working soldiers to work doing what we swore an oath to do? Protect Americans and their rights.
In what way has Obama not defended this country?
I'm really curious here.
The strongest country in the world (ethnocentric much?) should lead the way in NOT going to war, IMO.
Misfit28
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The VA system was crap before Obama took office. There is evidence showing that wait lists were ridiculous as far back as1995.
Not to say that Obama fixed it, just saying it was another inheritance from good old W.
And the illegals getting better healthcare is so overblown it's ridiculous!
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jswain34
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1. I never blamed Obama. I simply feel that the system needs fixed, badly.
2. You claim to work in healthcare. Don't tell me you haven't seen the system abused countless times. I dont blame them, there's no reason for them not to abuse it. There's no penalty for it, only a potential reward (being seen, treated, peace of mind that there's nothing wrong, getting the drugs they seek, etc). I have no problem helping people less fortunate, i just have a problem with them abusing the help we provide them.
2. You claim to work in healthcare. Don't tell me you haven't seen the system abused countless times. I dont blame them, there's no reason for them not to abuse it. There's no penalty for it, only a potential reward (being seen, treated, peace of mind that there's nothing wrong, getting the drugs they seek, etc). I have no problem helping people less fortunate, i just have a problem with them abusing the help we provide them.
ax1
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By completely violating his oath of office and complying with non-American government bodies bypassing our elected officials.
If Obama wanted to defend our country he would turn himself in for the crimes he commited. He is a terrorist.
ax1
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Obama has been a puss when it comes to defending this country. War is an inevitable occurrence being one of the strongest countries in the world, we will always have enemies. So my question to you is, would you rather have a passive president when that time comes? Or someone that wants to kick some serious ass and put all of us hard working soldiers to work doing what we swore an oath to do? Protect Americans and their rights.
Dropping billions of dollars in weapons to countless unknowns to fuel civil wars isn't an act of "puss" but rather an act of a criminal infiltrator running the country to the ground.
ax1
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I dunno of "more" is accurate, but he certainly is an interventionist.
ax1
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The point here that needs to be known, Obama is only a continuum of the status quo, which only makes him a liar about hope and change of course.
Gutterpump
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Obama has been a puss when it comes to defending this country. War is an inevitable occurrence being one of the strongest countries in the world, we will always have enemies. So my question to you is, would you rather have a passive president when that time comes? Or someone that wants to kick some serious ass and put all of us hard working soldiers to work doing what we swore an oath to do? Protect Americans and their rights.
How are we protecting America, this country, this land, by continuously invading other countries. It is our colonial actions that cause us to have enemies. Our invasions, and killing of innocents is what causes extremism, terrorism, on our land.
Misfit28
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Exactly. The wars are perpetuating the terrorism, not stopping it.
ax1
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This country is broke too, we cant afford to be the world police. Once the money to pay for it all is all gone, maybe China will give us more loans?
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youngandfree
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Trading 5 top level terrorists for a traitor.
thebigt
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as a small business owner I pay taxes out the wazoo..but I would gladly pay a nickle more a gallon gas tax if the money were guaranteed to go towards fixing infrastructure!!!
thebigt
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are you running on the 'ALL PROTEIN MATTERS' platform?
thebigt
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list them....
ax1
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Subsidize Starbucks and we have you another vote! Ill place my order on my app on the Obamaphone.
Gutterpump
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Can't we just have Bill back?
Can't we just have Bill back?
smith_69
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I would actually do my best to make this country a country- we all dont believe in the samething, but we need to believe in 1 country. That must be first.
I would remove power and replace it with respect. People are afraid to commit or give in because they fear they will lose power and control, NO MORE
Abortion. I am a Catholic and believe in procreation, but honestly who am i to tell and force a woman to have a child if she chooses not to? As a men, we have none, ZERO say over this. We also have no idea how that bond between a woman and a child is. We also have no idea or cant comprehend the fact that a living human being is growing inside a woman. If she decides to abort, she has to live with that for the rest of her live. Do you have any idea how hard that is?
If you are pregnant, you can choose to abort- Rape or underage automatic. If you abort and this is your second time because you are careless there will be a higher fee. Third time, then ovaries are closed up! Yes, because obviuously this person would not be fit to be a parent after 2 abortions.
Convicted of rape- found guilty, the punishment is castration and jail time. Put that into law, i promise you the rapes will go away
Death Penalty- Found guilty, you will be executed- lethal injection- done
Our deficit- is so F'ed up that my grandchildren wont live in America- it will be called America, but will not be owned by America
solution- There is only one way to fix this and it either happens now or we lose everything-
Year 1 Taxes will be raised 5% on the first year on every American. This will help to pay off a portion of the deficits interest.
Year 2 Taxes will be lowerd to 4% across the board
Year 3 Taxes will be kept at 4%
Year 4 Taxes will be lowered to 3%
all state taxes will remain as is
People that are over 65 will have no increase of taxes- however SS will not increase
small business tax will remain the same for the first 2 years and will increase 1% on year 3 and 4
resources- No longer will we need to rely on importing oil- we will invest in energy efficient forms- wind, solar and corn.
aid to foreign nations will now be handled by private sector which will help to create more America jobs- talking food and medicine
aid that requires use of military force will be given, however the cost of this aid will be billed back to the country that needs the assitance
this will be part of a new nato agreement-
country A is needs assistance they go to nato
Now lets say we borrowed 1 billion dollars from france- France chooses not to send in Aid, we decide to offer assistance. The cost of doing this will be 300 million dollars. We now deduct the amount we owe france by 300 million. this will obviously not play out, so what will happen? France will send in the aid, the US will not have to participate hence we dont sacrifice American lives, our military budget will not have to increase and we focus on America.
health care- i would adopt a system similar to Canada with the allowance of add't monies added if you elect to forgo wait times a small %
I would remove power and replace it with respect. People are afraid to commit or give in because they fear they will lose power and control, NO MORE
Abortion. I am a Catholic and believe in procreation, but honestly who am i to tell and force a woman to have a child if she chooses not to? As a men, we have none, ZERO say over this. We also have no idea how that bond between a woman and a child is. We also have no idea or cant comprehend the fact that a living human being is growing inside a woman. If she decides to abort, she has to live with that for the rest of her live. Do you have any idea how hard that is?
If you are pregnant, you can choose to abort- Rape or underage automatic. If you abort and this is your second time because you are careless there will be a higher fee. Third time, then ovaries are closed up! Yes, because obviuously this person would not be fit to be a parent after 2 abortions.
Convicted of rape- found guilty, the punishment is castration and jail time. Put that into law, i promise you the rapes will go away
Death Penalty- Found guilty, you will be executed- lethal injection- done
Our deficit- is so F'ed up that my grandchildren wont live in America- it will be called America, but will not be owned by America
solution- There is only one way to fix this and it either happens now or we lose everything-
Year 1 Taxes will be raised 5% on the first year on every American. This will help to pay off a portion of the deficits interest.
Year 2 Taxes will be lowerd to 4% across the board
Year 3 Taxes will be kept at 4%
Year 4 Taxes will be lowered to 3%
all state taxes will remain as is
People that are over 65 will have no increase of taxes- however SS will not increase
small business tax will remain the same for the first 2 years and will increase 1% on year 3 and 4
resources- No longer will we need to rely on importing oil- we will invest in energy efficient forms- wind, solar and corn.
aid to foreign nations will now be handled by private sector which will help to create more America jobs- talking food and medicine
aid that requires use of military force will be given, however the cost of this aid will be billed back to the country that needs the assitance
this will be part of a new nato agreement-
country A is needs assistance they go to nato
Now lets say we borrowed 1 billion dollars from france- France chooses not to send in Aid, we decide to offer assistance. The cost of doing this will be 300 million dollars. We now deduct the amount we owe france by 300 million. this will obviously not play out, so what will happen? France will send in the aid, the US will not have to participate hence we dont sacrifice American lives, our military budget will not have to increase and we focus on America.
health care- i would adopt a system similar to Canada with the allowance of add't monies added if you elect to forgo wait times a small %
Aleksandar37
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Can't we just have Bill back?
That ********er should be in prison for war crimes.
ax1
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The only thing I can say to this is, who is a woman to chose what to do with other people's bodies and life? That baby in her stomach does not belong to her, in the same way I dont belong to my own parents.
Socalmk6gti
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Abortion is such a tough topic. It's almost non-debatable. I normally say it's entirely up to a woman, but what if you're in a relationship and she gets pregnant and doesn't want it, but the man does? Shouldn't he have a say? If a woman is raped, of course it's her decision. 9/10 yes it should be a woman's decision but in some way on some fine line, there will always be a reason against that. I don't ever feel that abortion itself is a cut and dry yes/no. There are always those gray areas and unfortunately our laws don't do well with grey area situations.
ax1
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Good post...the important issue is to add to that fine line is when should that fine line be drawn? I just dont get how a 8 month old in a tummy has no constitutional rights, but a 7 month old who is in pre-mature labor does. Just doesnt make sense to me how then you can partially give birth and murder the kid, but then infanticide is not ok?
Just think pro abortion people those who dont draw that line should volunteer to partake in partial birth abortions, I bet most will feel not so right afterwards.
I can also see how a very undeveloped baby can be compared to a insect or something, like if you decide to not have a kid get it done soon.
Socalmk6gti
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I'm 35 almost 36 now and married with no kids (yet) when I was 19 I was engaged to a different girl and she got pregnant by her ex (long dramatic story) but had to have an abortion. It was her choice and I stood by her through it. It is not something to take lightly, it was a horrific experience for her to go through and I'm sure it's something she questions still to this day. She has a beautiful son now and is very happy but I know how hard that experience was for her. From what I saw and had to support through, it was tough as hell and I hope it's something I never have to go through again.
smith_69
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exactly- she has to live with that for the rest of her life. Im I laughing at that or saying serves you right? absolutely NO way. Right to life people just see it as that- life, they don't live in the shoes of others.
it is a very touchy subject which is why I believe this should be solely up for the woman to decide. Not a bunch of d bags in washington
ax1
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So it should be ok for a mother to kill a 2 month born baby and just throw it in a trash can, I mean its her choice, right? We have no right to tell her she cant rid of her unwanted baby.
ax1
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Actually though, we do not live in a democratic society. This country is founded as a Republic.
If 51% of the people vote to take others liberties away, that is not allowed.
Gutterpump
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Gutterpump
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HUGE news for Canada. They've just passed a bill to legalize human euthanasia for people with certain diseases. Pretty f&*king amazing. It's about time.
Misfit28
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That's a strawman if I ever saw one, lol.
smith_69
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See above ^^^^
smith_69
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more of an ultra ultra ultra ultra
ax1
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There is no difference between a 8 month stomach baby and a 1 month born baby.
If a woman gives pre-mature labor at 7 months, they will save its life and its a normal child. If a baby has a month to go until the 9 month mark, its ok to pull it out of the woman, snap its neck and throw it in a trash can.
There is plenty of evidence that a 7-8 month old baby in a month, is indeed a human baby.
So yeah, its all murder to me.
Misfit28
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Yes, absolutely. I'm entering a phase of my life right now that is extremely challenging. Dealing with aging parents with diseases is not fun
This needs to be an option to prevent needless suffering.
ax1
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All democracies are dangerous, especially with a growing number of socialists in the country. You cant just elect a socialist and intrude in other people's liberties, that is good just cause for civil war.
ax1
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So the next time your hospital tries to save a 7 month pregnant woman's baby, put a stop to it.
Im not a conservative, and this has nothing to do with religion.