Donald Trump running for president

Misfit28 said:
I'm not pro-Islam. I just support people who are being singled out and oppressed by the religion they choose to believe in.

I honestly would do the same for Christians if they were actually under attack.
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Europe has taken in millions of muslims...many muslims live here and are protected with constitutional rights....if you took your head out of your ass you would realizes that he only ones who are oppressing muslims are other muslims-geez.
 
thebigt said:
Europe has taken in millions of muslims...many muslims live here and are protected with constitutional rights....if you took your head out of your ass you would realizes that he only ones who are oppressing muslims are other muslims-geez.
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Yet Trump wants a religious test to enter America.

Maybe you should get your head out of Donald's ass.
 
Misfit28 said:
Did I actually call you a racist?

You certainly seemed like one at the time. You do know the meaning of the word "seem", right?

I try not to speak in absolutes, but I will say when something "seems"like something to me. That's why I appreciate clarification.
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you actually called me a racist, period....I am willing to go back and find it- if you are willing to apologize and admit you started all this name calling???
 
Misfit28 said:
Yet Trump wants a religious test to enter America.

Maybe you should get your head out of Donald's ass.
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Israeli profiling is already being offered as a model for American ports: “What’s so great about Israeli security? Profiling.”

Israel also discriminates against non-Jewish refugees and immigrants. In an article titled, “Trump is no more racist than mainstream Israeli policies,” +972 states:

Israel already has a law banning Muslims from immigrating — the ‘Law of Return’ which gives that right to Jews alone.”

So Trump is following suit here -

THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE AFTER 9/11- end of story
 
thebigt said:
Europe has taken in millions of muslims...many muslims live here and are protected with constitutional rights....if you took your head out of your ass you would realizes that he only ones who are oppressing muslims are other muslims-geez.
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c'mon...give me a better response to this
 
Misfit28 said:
Christians don't need defending IMO.
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They do need defending, from me at least. They are being persecuted against by the mainstream "far left liberal" extremists in this country.

Why do they need to be persecuted for denying gay people a marriage license for example? They threw that poor woman in the slammer just because of her personal views. This is outrageous.
 
ax1 said:
They do need defending, from me at least. They are being persecuted against by the mainstream "far left liberal" extremists in this country.

Why do they need to be persecuted for denying gay people a marriage license for example? They threw that poor woman in the slammer just because of her personal views. This is outrageous.
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Separation of church and state.

She was in dereliction of her duties.
 
hey ax1 how you been? im doing pretty good,

so hope all is well- yea im getting ignored here so figured I talk to you since those 2 are busy here lol
 
thebigt said:
did I see you defending Christians-no....did I always see you defending muslims-yes
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Thats the way it usually is. Muslim community wont allow white christians to walk on the sidewalk, its defend religious freedom. White christian doesnt want to marry transvestites its throw them in the slammer and humiliate them on TMZ.
 
smith_69 said:
hey ax1 how you been? im doing pretty good,

so hope all is well- yea im getting ignored here so figured I talk to you since those 2 are busy here lol
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Lol....I just sold my old car, had things to take care of and work on getting my new car on the road. Sometime I have hobbies outside of this forum, not often just sometimes, lol!!!!
 
smith_69 said:
Israeli profiling is already being offered as a model for American ports: “What’s so great about Israeli security? Profiling.”

Israel also discriminates against non-Jewish refugees and immigrants. In an article titled, “Trump is no more racist than mainstream Israeli policies,” +972 states:

Israel already has a law banning Muslims from immigrating — the ‘Law of Return’ which gives that right to Jews alone.”

So Trump is following suit here -

THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE AFTER 9/11- end of story
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this is my point of view...all immigrants applying for entry in this country should have background checks done. it only stands to reason that if you know people from a certain region are trying to infiltrate terrorists into this country that they should be given greater scrutiny, this is only common sense.
 
ax1 said:
Lol....I just sold my old car, had things to take care of and work on getting my new car on the road. Sometime I have hobbies outside of this forum, not often just sometimes, lol!!!!
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very interesting- well tell the mrs i said hello, pet the dog and tell your kids my kids say hello

lol
 
Misfit28 said:
Separation of church and state.

She was derelict in her duties.
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So tell the gay people to marry at a church, the state not need be in business marrying people.

She was being strategically harassed by those queers when they could have gone to a hundred other places and gotten married.
 
it is my honest opinion that the greatest threat[danger]to good law abiding muslims is from within the muslim world not from the outside.
 
smith_69 said:
Israeli profiling is already being offered as a model for American ports: “What’s so great about Israeli security? Profiling.”

Israel also discriminates against non-Jewish refugees and immigrants. In an article titled, “Trump is no more racist than mainstream Israeli policies,” +972 states:

Israel already has a law banning Muslims from immigrating — the ‘Law of Return’ which gives that right to Jews alone.”

So Trump is following suit here -

THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE AFTER 9/11- end of story
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Isreal a couple years back were rounding up black people and evicting them off their land due to the claim that they endanger their culture.

Of course, then you can add that a jew is not allowed to marry a muslim.

But yeah....Trump is a racist....Yeeeeah Isreal, Isreal is trendy!!!!!!
 
ax1 said:
So tell the gay people to marry at a church, the state not need be in business marrying people.

She was being strategically harassed by those queers when they could have gone to a hundred other places and gotten married.
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I'm pretty sure they still have to file the papers at that courthouse for it to be legal in Kentucky.
 
Misfit28 said:
I'm pretty sure they still have to file the papers at that courthouse for it to be legal in Kentucky.
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Get rid of it, why do people beg for government to approve their marriages? That goes for heterosexual people too.
 
ax1 said:
Isreal a couple years back were rounding up black people and evicting them off their land due to the claim that they endanger their culture.

Of course, then you can add that a jew is not allowed to marry a muslim.

But yeah....Trump is a racist....Yeeeeah Isreal, Isreal is trendy!!!!!!
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valid point-

speaking of which, the war between Israel and the Palestine over land- could you imagine if the Native American Indians started launching missiles into NYC or DC for land disputes? I understand the right to fight for freedom and rights, but land? In all honesty wouldn't it be just simpler to share the land so all can prosper
 
Misfit28 said:
I'm pretty sure they still have to file the papers at that courthouse for it to be legal in Kentucky.
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one thing i never understood- having to file for a marriage certificate- when did getting married become a privilege like driving that requires a license in order to proceed?
 
smith_69 said:
one thing i never understood- having to file for a marriage certificate- when did getting married become a privilege like driving that requires a license in order to proceed?
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I know. It's silly.

That's what made that lady particularly crappy IMO. Because she held certain beliefs, she was denying people the "right" to marry.

So not only do homosexuals have to obey that law, but they also have to face discrimination when they come to follow the law? Just totally wrong, IMO.
 
Misfit28 said:
I know. It's silly.

That's what made that lady particularly crappy IMO. Because she held certain beliefs, she was denying people the "right" to marry.

So not only do homosexuals have to obey that law, but they also have to face discrimination when they come to follow the law? Just totally wrong, IMO.
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no your right-

some of my wife's close friends are gay- since being with them, they have become very good friends of mine as well. to me, i dont care if your yellow, purple, gay or straight- be honest and have respect- were good.

our friends got married a few years ago in Brooklyn -believe 3 years 4 at the most- the first gay marriage in this catholic church. when it was over and we were walking to the cars, there was a barber shop across the street and some of the people started making comments.

first instinct because my close friends are like family to me. f with them, well you know the rest. i wanted to go over and knock them all out. but that would have given them the satisfaction. i shook my head at them and got into my car with my wife and 2 other friends. Seeking a personal vegance would make me lower than them.

the end of the wedding i remember telling my wife, those idiots are all stewed up and we all had a great time.
 
Misfit28 said:
Agreed, but that still means she was guilty of dereliction of duty.

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Im not going to be giving definitive statements about the law, but lets say its illegal.....those queers were only out to harass her. Now maybe they didnt break the law, but azzes they were and I have a right to say that. Second, the worst she should have had was getting fired, not thrown in a freaking slammer, that is just outrageous.

Afterwards she can fight this up to the supreme court to stand up for her religious beliefs and see what happens.

Personally, I have no problem marrying gay people, I really dont care, good for them and congrats. Just dont force your sexuality down people's throats, I dont throw my heterosexuality down their throats.
 
Misfit28 said:
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So not only do homosexuals have to obey that law, but they also have to face discrimination when they come to follow the law? Just totally wrong, IMO.
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But discriminating other's religious beliefs is totally wrong too. Thats why I cant defend them, they only make me feel negative about gay people.
 
Gutterpump said:
Hey loser, Muslims are people, and unless they commit a crime, they are not criminals, they are people just like us. You failed to see the point by your obviously lacking argument.

And yes loser, guns are inanimate objects that were created for the sole purpose of violence.

Unlike guns, Muslims were not created for the sole purpose of violence. They are our equals, and unless they've commited a crime, they should be treated as equals, you f&*king pathetic excuse for a human being :)
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You still fail to admit that theres a HUGE segment of Muslims that would argue their purpose is violence. Muslims have been waging war and violence for many centuries before guns were invented.
 
youngandfree said:
You still fail to admit that theres a HUGE segment of Muslims that would argue their purpose is violence. Muslims have been waging war and violence for many centuries before guns were invented.
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So have jews, christians, chinese, russians, mongols, africans, many other religions..what difference does it make, really?
 
youngandfree said:
You still fail to admit that theres a HUGE segment of Muslims that would argue their purpose is violence. Muslims have been waging war and violence for many centuries before guns were invented.
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Hitler killed some 30 million, Stalin 40-50 million and Mao Tse Tung 70-100 million. None of these dictators were muslim. Mao even said half of China may have to die, thats about 400 million at that time he would love to have perished.

Muslims aint so bad bro.
 
youngandfree said:
The argument was muslims not being violent.
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Oh, well some are some arent. Most these days probably have every reason to be violent, its called war. Carpet bombing them for decades aint winning their hearts over.

Just fyi, not trying to troll you, just a debate I taking to heart :)
 
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Think about this though.....whats is the difference between beheading 30 Christians or dropping a Obama love bomb off his drone of compassion onto a wedding and killing 30 innocent muslims just because there was a suspected terrorist there?

I dont understand how a single beheading gets people, but if we dropped a a-bomb on hiroshima its not really a big deal.

Keep in mind too, that love bomb is from a "christian leader" so naturally they seek revenge to particular groups.
 
ax1 said:
Oh man, gotta says this....christians play with little boys....ouch!!!!

j/k
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So do Muslims. Remember the military guy that got in trouble for punching the Afghan soldier, I think it was, after he heard him abusing the boy. The military brass said it's there culture and leave it be.
 
youngandfree said:
So do Muslims. Remember the military guy that got in trouble for punching the Afghan soldier, I think it was, after he heard him abusing the boy. The military brass said it's there culture and leave it be.
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Thats damn scewed up.

If you really want to know who been doing some child sex slave smuggling look no further than the United Nations.

Of course, they control our military now, not congress so orders like that should be expected.
 
ax1 said:
Oh man, gotta says this....christians play with little boys....ouch!!!!

j/k
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damn...talk about carpetbombing, you make it sound like Christians are the only ones who ever commit child molestation.

geez, ax1...I expected better than that from you....
 
ax1 said:
Thats the way it usually is. Muslim community wont allow white christians to walk on the sidewalk, its defend religious freedom. White christian doesnt want to marry transvestites its throw them in the slammer and humiliate them on TMZ.
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What does one's religious values have to do with someone else's marriage?
 
thebigt said:
damn...talk about carpetbombing, you make it sound like Christians are the only ones who ever commit child molestation.

geez, ax1...I expected better than that from you....
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I was just kidding there, the old priest joke. Obviously, all groups of people have their psycho's and numnuts, that there has nothing to do with christianity but some problems with individuals and other issues within organized religion. I was having my ultra radical leftist liberal moment there, lol.
 
ax1 said:
I was just kidding there, the old priest joke. Obviously, all groups of people have their psycho's and numnuts, that there has nothing to do with christianity but some problems with individuals and other issues within organized religion. I was having my ultra radical leftist liberal moment there, lol.
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ok...I 100% agree that every group has it's nut cases, Christians included.
 
thebigt said:
this is my point of view...all immigrants applying for entry in this country should have background checks done. it only stands to reason that if you know people from a certain region are trying to infiltrate terrorists into this country that they should be given greater scrutiny, this is only common sense.
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I knew you were communist!!!

"Jk" lol
 
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Dma378 said:
1000% false. There was a time the Islamic world was the center of science and mathematics. All the stars and constellations with Arabic names, our numerals are Arabic, etc.

Your comment is truly uneducated.

Edit: It has been centuries since the golden age of Islam. So in a sense, you are right.
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So during the Islamic golden age between the 8th and 15th centuries, they stopped conquering other lands and spreading Islam? And they decided to "coexist" and put those cute bumper stickers on their chariots.
 
There are plenty of scientists working in Persia right now on building nukes to destroy Israel. Do they get a pass because they are advancing their science and technology base?
 
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