Donald Trump running for president

ax1 said:
Yeah, Nobel Peace Prize, Obama says "war is peace!" lol

I used to refer to the Dalai Lama as a Nobel Peace prize winner, but I dont relate the two anymore.

Obama hypnotized a massive amount of people as if they were on a drug. I remember after the election it was as if Jesus came to save us.

The time is such a fog, I feel like it was just a dream and it never even happened for real.
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“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, 1984
 
ax1 said:
These are some scenario's that may happen.

I thought it was interesting how Biden is sorta endorsing Sanders. Im sensing some inner termoil here with Obama vs. Clinton.

Hitlery got caught up in more lies about the email scandals the others day.

I think its possible Hitlery will get the nomination, have her election then suspended due to legal crimes and then it automatically goes to the Democratic National Committee and they will simply hand select Biden.

Hitlery will be an obstacle and in the way to what Obama may pull off....and mark my words I call a 75% shot at this one......

Obama has a NWO global government agenda, we all know this, he preaches this over and over again.

In 2009 he did the unprecedented illegal Constitutional act of sitting in as guest seat as Chairman of the UN Secretary Council. This act alone should have called for impeachment but thats another topic.

Over the years he has shown more loyalty to the NWO United Nations that our own elected Congress, including getting war approvals from the UN and criminally bypassing Congress.

Could it be....could that have been a preview of whats to come after Obama's presidency?

The little birdie on my shoulder tells me Obama will one day in the very near future will lead the NWO as Secretary-General of the United Nations and obtain more powers than he has ever had before.

Ill just call this a big WARNING!
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Any president will be part of the agenda. That's why they get the spot. Gotta play ball.
 
Does anyone know when the upcoming primaries are happening? I'm having a tough time finding a date, just finding a range (Feb-June).
 
Gutterpump said:
I'm so confused with the American political process lol.. I've been here 10yrs but still have a lot to learn about it.
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But really find the date to each of the conventions that's when they nominate their candidate. It's nothing really to do with the voters and a specific vote day.
 
Misfit28 said:
Not surprising, lol. I'm sure the Repubs prefer it that way :D
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It's not a secret, it's April 19 for New York. You must be referring to the Democrat debates that they run during holidays and Saturday nights when there are other major prime time attractions so no one will actually watch it.
 
Thanks, appreciated.

I'm most interested in the GOP primary. If Trump is voted out, I really wonder if he's going to go independent or not, regardless of what he has said he would do.
 
youngandfree said:
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It's not a secret, it's April 19 for New York. You must be referring to the Democrat debates that they run during holidays and Saturday nights when there are other major prime time attractions so no one will actually watch it.
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No, just gerrymandering and other such things ;)
 
youngandfree said:
Actually each state has a Primary before the conventions.
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Those arent as important its just influencial. Whats more important than that are the delegates which really just some thousands of overall votes per party.

Losing candidates during the convention in a sign of unity may or may not just let their votes go to the "winning" candidate.

There is all kinds of stuff going on that makes things complex....so its not excactly the primaries that matter although it certainly can influence the delegates for the most part (so I think, if I understand this correctly, lol)

Personally, I think its all rigged.
 
Gutterpump said:
Thanks, appreciated.

I'm most interested in the GOP primary. If Trump is voted out, I really wonder if he's going to go independent or not, regardless of what he has said he would do.
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If he goes independent am at least going to start thinking things over if I should sell out and put a vote in for president that day. I doubt it though.

I wouldnt vote for any other 3rd party or independent unless they at least made the presidential debates....without that they are not taking my vote for any president. With Trump, Im almost certain he will at least be on the major final debates.
 
Gutterpump said:
I'm so confused with the American political process lol.. I've been here 10yrs but still have a lot to learn about it.
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hey...what is happening in Canada? I heard prices[inflation]have gone thru the roof!!!
 
thebigt said:
hey...what is happening in Canada? I heard prices[inflation]have gone thru the roof!!!
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I have no idea, all I know is that I'm trying to take advantage of the American dollar finally being worth more than the Canadian dollar again now, and trying to plan a big trip to Whistler/Blackcomb this winter. Perfect time.... I think US$1 is now worth $1.45 Canadian!!
 
If Trump wins a majority of primaries, and the RNC shafts him at the convention, which would clearly be against the will of the voters, I hope he goes independent and takes all his voters. He has so much support because so many people are tired of establishment politics and feel he is one of the only ways they can thumb their nose st the system. I'd vote independent, especially if they anoint Rubio. Hopefully he would name Cruz as VP and he'd be unbeatable if it's an actual fair election. Which we know it won't be.
 
youngandfree said:
If Trump wins a majority of primaries, and the RNC shafts him at the convention, which would clearly be against the will of the voters, I hope he goes independent and takes all his voters. He has so much support because so many people are tired of establishment politics and feel he is one of the only ways they can thumb their nose st the system. I'd vote independent, especially if they anoint Rubio. Hopefully he would name Cruz as VP and he'd be unbeatable if it's an actual fair election. Which we know it won't be.
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I am waiting to see if Obama allows the fbi to release info on Hillary. I hear they have more than enough to indict her!!!

I agree the republicans would be making a huge mistake if they give trump the shaft!!!

I don't think Rubio and cruz get along...I think it was rubio's people who released the info on some loan that cruz and his wife made that might be incriminating.
 
Gutterpump said:
I have no idea, all I know is that I'm trying to take advantage of the American dollar finally being worth more than the Canadian dollar again now, and trying to plan a big trip to Whistler/Blackcomb this winter. Perfect time.... I think US$1 is now worth $1.45 Canadian!!
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I would be saving my money right now...not only Canada but china just devaluated their money---something big is in the air!!!
 
thebigt said:
I would be saving my money right now...not only Canada but china just devaluated their money---something big is in the air!!!
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China is getting ready to eat a Hhuuugggeee Slice of reality in their economy, and their market is getting ready to crash. They pumped so much fake money into it to prop it up, the bubble is getting ready to blow. The scary part is our stock market is inflated the same way by the fed reserve pumping Trillions of dollars in fake money into it. Watch what happens to China and you will see what's going to happen here.
 
youngandfree said:
China is getting ready to eat a Hhuuugggeee Slice of reality in their economy, and their market is getting ready to crash. They pumped so much fake money into it to prop it up, the bubble is getting ready to blow. The scary part is our stock market is inflated the same way by the fed reserve pumping Trillions of dollars in fake money into it. Watch what happens to China and you will see what's going to happen here.
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Yep, I was just speaking with a few people last night about this. We're in for some trouble. Buckle up!!
 
youngandfree said:
China is getting ready to eat a Hhuuugggeee Slice of reality in their economy, and their market is getting ready to crash. They pumped so much fake money into it to prop it up, the bubble is getting ready to blow. The scary part is our stock market is inflated the same way by the fed reserve pumping Trillions of dollars in fake money into it. Watch what happens to China and you will see what's going to happen here.
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They had been building city after city after city with cheap buildings and barely anybody lives in them. Entire cities with minimal population. Many of the buildings were so cheaply made they are already falling apart. They are called "Ghost Cities" you can look into it if you want. This is one of the ways they had been propping up their economy, but there is only so much more they can do artificially inflating it like that.
 
youngandfree said:
China is getting ready to eat a Hhuuugggeee Slice of reality in their economy, and their market is getting ready to crash. They pumped so much fake money into it to prop it up, the bubble is getting ready to blow. The scary part is our stock market is inflated the same way by the fed reserve pumping Trillions of dollars in fake money into it. Watch what happens to China and you will see what's going to happen here.
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my retirement plan is very heavy on gold certificates, now is not the time to be messing around in the stock market.
 
ax1 said:
They had been building city after city after city with cheap buildings and barely anybody lives in them. Entire cities with minimal population. Many of the buildings were so cheaply made they are already falling apart. They are called "Ghost Cities" you can look into it if you want. This is one of the ways they had been propping up their economy, but there is only so much more they can do artificially inflating it like that.
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I've also heard that division of wealth is even much worse than here-there is no middle class, a few very, very rich and most very, very poor.
 
thebigt said:
I've also heard that division of wealth is even much worse than here-there is no middle class, a few very, very rich and most very, very poor.
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Thats not true...there is a very large middle class, that being said large within 1.3 billion people.

If you go to cities like Shanghai and Beijing, people go shopping and always have bags full of goodies, goodies that cost more money than here. Malls are full, restaurants always full, movies always full.....so many people have cars which is an indicator that you have money in places such as Beijing and especially Shanghai where fees are very expensive...people have stocks and investments....

Middle class is very large, just that there is ALOT more of poor people especially in the country side and suburbs.
 
ax1 said:
Thats not true...there is a very large middle class, that being said large within 1.3 billion people.

If you go to cities like Shanghai and Beijing, people go shopping and always have bags full of goodies, goodies that cost more money than here. Malls are full, restaurants always full, movies always full.....so many people have cars which is an indicator that you have money in places such as Beijing and especially Shanghai where fees are very expensive...people have stocks and investments....

Middle class is very large, just that there is ALOT more of poor people especially in the country side and suburbs.
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that sounds like here...I guess they don't let the poor and homeless mingle with the wealthy...how many people are there in those wealthy cities holding up signs that say 'help feed my family'?
 
thebigt said:
that sounds like here...I guess they don't let the poor and homeless mingle with the wealthy...how many people are there in those wealthy cities holding up signs that say 'help feed my family'?
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Much more than NYC. Its very common to have beggars still in the major cities in China and often they send kids to collect the money. Subways used to be very common but they cracked down hard on that. Usually the tourist area's (especially just outside of tourist areas where there is less security) have the most. You will see alot of public garbage picking especially for empty bottles.

Usually several times a trip Ill see something like a 85 year in Beijing or Shanghai laying face down on the sidewalk wearing ripped old raggy clothes with a beggers cup in their hand.

Now....there are ALOT of scammers too, but thats not to degrade the problems. Cant be naive there.

But hey, its "socialist" these things dont happen in socialist countries. The CIA must have sent those poor people to make the government look bad, its not real even if you see it?!!!>!&!
 
ax1 said:
Much more than NYC. Its very common to have beggars still in the major cities in China and often they send kids to collect the money. Subways used to be very common but they cracked down hard on that. Usually the tourist area's (especially just outside of tourist areas where there is less security) have the most. You will see alot of public garbage picking especially for empty bottles.

Usually several times a trip Ill see something like a 85 year in Beijing or Shanghai laying face down on the sidewalk wearing ripped old raggy clothes with a beggers cup in their hand.

Now....there are ALOT of scammers too, but thats not to degrade the problems. Cant be naive there.

But hey, its "socialist" these things dont happen in socialist countries. The CIA must have sent those poor people to make the government look bad, its not real even if you see it?!!!>!&!
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I would have though that the Chinese government would attempt to hide that kind of poverty...particularly in tourist areas???
 
thebigt said:
I would have though that the Chinese government would attempt to hide that kind of poverty...particularly in tourist areas???
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They go to the outside more often not directly there, or walk through touristy shopping areas. You wont see them laying in the middle of Tienanmen square too long. They will also hide in overpasses which gives them better cover from security. They get it done.

Usually inside of places such as Tienanmen square you will find poor sole proprietors trying to make a little money off of cheap junk.

China has come a very very long way since the 70s. Everybody was poor. My own family and relatives told me how they had coupons for rationed rice. All they at was mostly some rice and drink tea or just plain hot water.

Now, I bet Beijing alone throws out enough food every night to feed the entire country.
 
thebigt said:
I would have though that the Chinese government would attempt to hide that kind of poverty...particularly in tourist areas???
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America's secret weapon is the food stamp now....Obama is the champion of that if you see how that dramatically has increased. If it wasnt for that we would see the Great Depression soup lines but in color and HD.

But hey, he said this country is strong, the economy is strong (thanks to printing trillions of of thin air deflating our money) and all his splendor!
 
that is not what my perception of china was...I thought it would be heavily policed and homeless and poor arrested or thrown out of major cities and tourist areas. it was my understanding that the Chinese government was very strict on enforcement and that the poor/homeless would try to avoid major population areas...

so many things about china that I do not know, lol.... how the heck could the worlds most populated country be surrounded in so much mystery???
 
thebigt said:
that is not what my perception of china was...I thought it would be heavily policed and homeless and poor arrested or thrown out of major cities and tourist areas. it was my understanding that the Chinese government was very strict on enforcement and that the poor/homeless would try to avoid major population areas...

so many things about china that I do not know, lol.... how the heck could the worlds most populated country be surrounded in so much mystery???
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They hate protesters the most.

China is actually much far more free there than here in the USA....its far more police state here than China compared to NY. You can go away alot more.

I bet you heard how China cracks down hardcore too on counterfeiters? LOL! You can go just east of Tienanmen square, one of the most popular shopping centers in the city for tourists is called Silk Street. its a 4 floor building plus basements, each floor is LOADED with bootlegs. 1st floor has Nike and designer purses along with other things (not going to name everything,) 2nd floor has all cloths in name brands, skip to 4th floor you can get Rolex, Sony Cameras, etc......

You can get away with so much more there when it comes to driving too....Beijing is a little more strict but Ive been in cities there where everybody speeds and drives in the OPPOSITE direction to pass traffic, lol was a crazy experience when I was first in the taxi in that city and he was driving in rage!

You can just give the cop money if he writes you up with some minor ticket too, he might rip it up....but if you get a ticket/fine is only a fraction of the cost than it is here. They dont fine you a weeks salary or anything like that.

I cant talk forever about shyt there, lol but its wild west and awesome!
 
that is very enlightening....nothing like I had imagined it to be like....it actually sounds like olongapo city back in late 70's-80's, the black market was incredible-vendors at the market would give sailors a list of things they wanted and sailors would buy them at the navy exchange on base, the vendor would give the sailor a decent mark up-then take the goods to manila where American goods were worth much more. a pack of cigarettes on base cost 50 cents but could sell for $2 in manila.
 
thebigt said:
that is very enlightening....nothing like I had imagined it to be like....it actually sounds like olongapo city back in late 70's-80's, the black market was incredible-vendors at the market would give sailors a list of things they wanted and sailors would buy them at the navy exchange on base, the vendor would give the sailor a decent mark up-then take the goods to manila where American goods were worth much more. a pack of cigarettes on base cost 50 cents but could sell for $2 in manila.
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Oh I didnt even tell you about the restaurant I was able to attend in China, something you will never see here in the USA due to heavy sanctions.

One of the best nights of my life was a few years ago at the North Korean Government run state sponsored Korean restaurant in Shanghai.

They had a all women's rock band performing live singing and dancing for their great dear leader....Im gonna keep most of the story to myself though, but damn, it was freaking awesome in there! Those North Korean women were very beautiful too!
 
AustBenny said:
No one wants to hear a story you keep mostly to yourself.
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Ill pose a few personal pics, gotta go to bed....gym early morning, must train hard!!

Those arent the best looking girls there though, I have more pics but this thread is about Trump, lol!

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ax1 said:
Oh...you have no idea....lol!
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Oh...and by that I dont mean like any sexual favors or anything, lol it wasnt about that I know how some of you may think!

All the girls that work there are all fluent and very proficient in Korean, Mandarin and English. I was able to talk to them and it was a very interesting talk, very interesting people Ill tell ya. They were NOT regular North Korean's...very "selected" bunch thats all Ill say but the girls were in shanghai for only 3 years and sent back home and replaced with others.
 
So I dunno about you guys in the US but here in Australia, there's nightclubs okay?

I went to one the other night. There were some hot girls there.
 
ax1 said:
Not possible.... even if so I love my wife and wouldn't be interested anyways.
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loyalty, values and principals are good things, worthy of respect and admiration!!!!
 
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