Donald Trump running for president

Generalizing everyone as racists and bigots due to the fact that they support Trump is a little out of line lol but I will a good amount of Trump supporters are ignorant but IMO all statists are :D but that's due to years of indoctrination.
 
Gutterpump said:
If people can't see how his rhetoric echoes Hitler, then God help us all. Sigh... I can't believe people on this forum actually take Trump seriously and support him. Trump IS a racist, and a bigot. Everything he stands for is destructive to this nation, and his thinking is backwards. If you support him then yes you are supporting his values.
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I've seen both sides of the fence, from where iam at now it doesn't matter. My single opinion wouldn't swing a nation . Im here to debate and have a good time . Trump is no where near hitler. If you think trumps like hitler make 5 solid points on how , and ill make 5 solid points on how he is not.
 
Wait, when did Obama call for banning an entire religion from coming into the U.S?
 
Matthandyo said:
Wait, when did Obama call for banning an entire religion from coming into the U.S?
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He stated non american Muslims aren't allowed to enter the country until "Islam is dealt with". Obviously forgetting the fact that the US has funded Islamic fundamentalists since Regan. Also the Proxy war in Syria, plus Russia and China want out from the Petro dollar.
 
OMG someone got hard wired by MSNBC!

Damn I don't support trump but damn, compare him to Hitler?????

That's a bit far stretch.

Anyways on the road wish I can be here, lol
 
bighulksmash said:
Why because trump has a solid foundation and isn't sucking c0ck for campaign money?
Or is it because the left wing conservatives can't handle someone who will actually do what the country needs to be done ?
Maybe we should teach ebonics as a second language?
Iam no where near racist, my daughter is half Spanish.
My uncle is Afro-Cuban and my grandfather is Indian.
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Hulk to try and make all those points at the end, yet precede it with the Ebonics comment??? Come on.

I will also challenge that the ability to "talk" tough in no way means they will do what needs to be done.

This country can't afford anymore enemies. What has happened to diplomacy? I'm sick of this "liberals are puS2ies" bull crap. Because we don't want boots on the ground? Because we are more reserved and tactful with our words.

We are one nation on a planet of many. We will never thrive with a president like Trump. Can anyone tell me why ISIS hates us so much? There are many answers, but only 1 top answer. Go
 
America needs to ban all Christians from entry, until we deal with the homegrown Christian terrorist problem, like that guy who shot up the Planned Parenthood clinic. We need to put a stop to these Christian fanatics and need to ban them from entering until we are able to determine and understand the issues we have, particularly the extremists fomenting within the Bible Belt. /sarcasm
 
Gutterpump said:
America needs to ban all Christians from entry, until we deal with the homegrown Christian terrorist problem, like that guy who shot up the Planned Parenthood clinic. We need to put a stop to these Christian fanatics and need to ban them from entering until we are able to determine and understand the issues we have, particularly the extremists fomenting within the Bible Belt. /sarcasm
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Sarcasm but serious
 
Dma378 said:
........ Can anyone tell me why ISIS hates us so much? There are many answers, but only 1 top answer. Go
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Because of Sayyid Qutb and his book, The America I have Seen.
 
Dma378 said:
Hulk to try and make all those points at the end, yet precede it with the Ebonics comment??? Come on.

I will also challenge that the ability to "talk" tough in no way means they will do what needs to be done.

This country can't afford anymore enemies. What has happened to diplomacy? I'm sick of this "liberals are puS2ies" bull crap. Because we don't want boots on the ground? Because we are more reserved and tactful with our words.

We are one nation on a planet of many. We will never thrive with a president like Trump. Can anyone tell me why ISIS hates us so much? There are many answers, but only 1 top answer. Go
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I previously mentioned im here for entertainment, banning a religious belief isn't going to happen. As for the Ebonics comment, it was obviously sarcasm.

My family and I are fluent in English and Spanish. Im not a racist. Iam not even voting for any of these quacks.

It's all in fun , im here to profile and preserve national security lol.

I like to pull it out of people, wat makes them tic ... i have never voted and i dont ever plan on it. Its useless, the public has no say in who gets elected.
 
SFreed said:
Because of Sayyid Qutb and his book, The America I have Seen.
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That may be an answer. But the #1 answer is because we're there. We are in Muslim land.

While we need to protect our home, the whole plan and process needs to be reevaluated. Banning entry isn't the answer. Profiling isn't the answer. Of course intelligence is huge. But getting the fuk out of there is the only long term answer. It's not an overnight fix-all, but the first and biggest step to our own protection. They are crippling us. Paralyzed by fear. Economically drained. It can't continue. It's a never ending cycle where both ends feed the other.

Not kick more ass. The only way to win by kicking ass is to stop *****footing around and nuke the whole region. Eradicate the potential.
 
And another one that we can agree on. Do it 100% or get the f*** out.
 
But to clarify ^^^. I'd like all religion eradicated. Not just Islam. But id much rather it happen with Logic, science, facts, education, and humanity waking up rather than genocide
 
Wait a minute......Are you tryin to tell me there isn't an old guy with long hair watching us all from the clouds????
 
Can't delete from mobile, but also don't want to turn this totally into a religious thread. So I'll have to live with have posting the above post. WS just trying to convey that while I'm a liberal, I'm not a puszy
 
SFreed said:
And another one that we can agree on. Do it 100% or get the f*** out.
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Now people are talking genocide in here... smh

My ex-gf is Persian, from Iran... a professional (lawyer), and a pretty damn awesome person. In fact, almost all of her relatives that are here in the US are doctors or lawyers, contributing greatly to this country. They are all amazing people, loving, giving, great members of this society. Well some would say lawyers are evil though lol

Can't even believe genocide is being mentioned in here at all. This is insane. I really hope that was mentioned just for perspective.
 
I agree religion generally is bad but Islam really is the worse when coming down to being zealous. I was reading some scientific polls on how even though the minority believe in such extremist values it is like around 30-40%
 
Gutterpump said:
Can't even believe genocide is being mentioned in here at all. This is insane. I really hope that was mentioned just for perspective.
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Not sure where you got genocide out of that comment. But one good person doesn't clear an entire group, same as one lunatic doesn't condemn one. Words to live by.
 
SFreed said:
Not sure where you got genocide out of that comment. But one good person doesn't clear an entire group, same as one lunatic doesn't condemn one. Words to live by.
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"Nuke the whole region or get out" = genocide

But yes, I only gave that example to show that you can't condemn a whole group.
 
SFreed said:
Not sure where you got genocide out of that comment. But one good person doesn't clear an entire group, same as one lunatic doesn't condemn one. Words to live by.
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Same as one person going to shoot up a Christmas gathering doesn't mean all of the American people will
 
The majority of Persians, in and outside of Iran, are amazing people, with a very long, rich history. It's when you mix religion and politics, when things get ugly. The people are suffering due to the actions of their government, and the majority of Persians want to get rid of them.

Education is a great thing.
 
CJNator said:
I agree religion generally is bad but Islam really is the worse when coming down to being zealous. I was reading some scientific polls on how even though the minority believe in such extremist values it is like around 30-40%
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Correct. Even moderate Muslims' fundamental values are dangerous. And potentiate radicalization.

Heard a statistic last night that was disturbing. Indonesia has the largest Muslim population in the world. 20% of them are in favor of honor killings. Meaning if a woman is raped, she is guilty and put to death. That's an enormous amount of people in one country who's religious beliefs make this ok.
 
Funny all this attack on Trump when it's Obama who has killed more innocent Muslims and commited real genocide 100% more than Trump thus far.
 
ax1 said:
Funny all this attack on Trump when it's Obama who has killed more innocent Muslims and commited real genocide 100% more than Trump thus far.
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Wasn't Bush the one who started the war in Iraq? Both Bushes actually?

Wasn't Obama the one who worked out a game changing deal with Iran, to the benefit of the west, and for the people of Iran?
 
Gutterpump said:
....... It's when you mix religion and politics, when things get ugly. .....
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In life as it is on Anabolic Minds. I mean, normally we'd all be talking about the best pre, or why you shouldn't do upright rows. But instead, we're in here, gettin all worked up! You just know that hulksmash is pacing back and forth across his living room again!
 
SFreed said:
In life as it is on Anabolic Minds. I mean, normally we'd all be talking about the best pre, or why you shouldn't do upright rows. But instead, we're in here, gettin all worked up! You just know that hulksmash is pacing back and forth across his living room again!
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Haha true...

The world's problems would all be solved if our leaders were all secular. Nothing good ever came of mixing religion with politics.
 
SFreed said:
In life as it is on Anabolic Minds. I mean, normally we'd all be talking about the best pre, or why you shouldn't do upright rows. But instead, we're in here, gettin all worked up! You just know that hulksmash is pacing back and forth across his living room again!
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Im laying on the couch watching the Bruins vs Canadians haha ... pwo wore off doggy bones kicked in ill be drooling on myself in a bit .... I LOVE A GOOD DEBATE! even though im literally not on either side of it. Have a good night guys !!!
 
Gutterpump said:
Wasn't Bush the one who started the war in Iraq? Both Bushes actually?

Wasn't Obama the one who worked out a game changing deal with Iran, to the benefit of the west, and for the people of Iran?
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ax1 said:
Funny all this attack on Trump when it's Obama who has killed more innocent Muslims and commited real genocide 100% more than Trump thus far.
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It all actually started with Regan and yes, under Obama's administration there were more drone bombing then Bush. People are talking about Trump more because of the media. Bush and Obama are the same but Obama does things differently. Invalid Link Removed I definitely recommend watching this video and others that this guy made. Its all info and non bias.
 
Gutterpump said:
Wasn't Bush the one who started the war in Iraq? Both Bushes actually?

Wasn't Obama the one who worked out a game changing deal with Iran, to the benefit of the west, and for the people of Iran?
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Your going for your false right left paradigm. I could care less about Bush he is nothing but a maggot to me. Obama is in charge now and not only has he continued Bush's foreign policy of interventionism, but he has expanded all. There is no difference between Bush and Obama except Obama started poppin Superdrol.

Remember, It was Obama not Bush who led the overthrow of Lybia and financed and armed all these rebel groups to illegally overthrow the President of Syria and caused all this destruction and refugee crisis all over the Middle east and North Africa to begin with.

With intent or not, dunno and dont matter, Obama is the founding father of ISIS.
 
CJNator said:
It all actually started with Regan and yes, under Obama's administration there were more drone bombing then Bush. People are talking about Trump more because of the media. Bush and Obama are the same but Obama does things differently. Invalid Link Removed I definitely recommend watching this video and others that this guy made. Its all info and non bias.
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Its amazing to me how people judge on what people say more so than what people do. Of course, media is a driving factor on this. Being that the CIA legally on paper has the right to run Pych-ops on the American people through American media they certainly have a driving factor on how things are said when the CNN's anchors are reading their teleprompters.
 
ax1 said:
Its amazing to me how people judge on what people say more so than what people do. Of course, media is a driving factor on this. Being that the CIA legally on paper has the right to run Pych-ops on the American people through American media they certainly have a driving factor on how things are said when the CNN's anchors are reading their teleprompters.
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I shouldn't agree with you here, but your right . Mk started before the cold war.
 
This thread needs a quick serious ROLF!!!!!

Gun shop tells people how to piss Obama off!

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bighulksmash said:
I shouldn't agree with you here, but your right . Mk started before the cold war.
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Its called Operation Mockingbird. Just early this year they passed new policy to run that old policy into overdrive.
 
ax1 said:
Your going for your false right left paradigm. I could care less about Bush he is nothing but a maggot to me. Obama is in charge now and not only has he continued Bush's foreign policy of interventionism, but he has expanded all. There is no difference between Bush and Obama except Obama started poppin Superdrol.

Remember, It was Obama not Bush who led the overthrow of Lybia and financed and armed all these rebel groups to illegally overthrow the President of Syria and caused all this destruction and refugee crisis all over the Middle east and North Africa to begin with.

With intent or not, dunno and dont matter, Obama is the founding father of ISIS.
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I don't think it's as simple as you think to inherit something like Obama did and just *snap*, end all involvement, it doesn't work like that. He's at least tried to keep American troops alive (albeit via somewhat unethical use of drones). He's tried to end the war in Iraq. I've seen him wanting to pull out (lol) and end interventionism.

The President of Syria is guilty of war crimes, against it's own people. Chemical weapons were proven to have been used time and time again. What would you have done?
 
Back on topic though, great video from George Takei here for Trump, aimed at Trump's support for internment camps in WWII for Japanese Americans:

[video]https://www.facebook.com/georgehtakei/videos/1426957877333661/[/video]

Sorry, but Trump is clearly a fascist.
 
Gutterpump said:
I don't think it's as simple as you think to inherit something like Obama did and just *snap*, end all involvement, it doesn't work like that. He's at least tried to keep American troops alive (albeit via somewhat unethical use of drones). He's tried to end the war in Iraq. I've seen him wanting to pull out (lol) and end interventionism.

The President of Syria is guilty of war crimes, against it's own people. Chemical weapons were proven to have been used time and time again. What would you have done?
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Invalid Link Removed watch did ish and you'll think otherwise.
 
Gutterpump said:
I don't think it's as simple as you think to inherit something like Obama did and just *snap*, end all involvement, it doesn't work like that. He's at least tried to keep American troops alive (albeit via somewhat unethical use of drones). He's tried to end the war in Iraq. I've seen him wanting to pull out (lol) and end interventionism.

The President of Syria is guilty of war crimes, against it's own people. Chemical weapons were proven to have been used time and time again. What would you have done?
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Action speaks louder that words, Obama is a interventionist foreign policy maker and a genocidalist serial killer.

It is simple....Years ago they marched right in. If you vow to end the wars we just march right out. Dont let them convince you otherwise. The military industrial complex lobbies him, follow the money and follow the policy. I could care less about what he says out of his Pinocchio face.....

What do you think if China started arming all those people in Furgenson and Chicago to overthrow their "elected" politicians, what do you think the US government is going to do? Those people will be slaughtered.

Obama started that civil war in Syria. He has spend billions of dollars arming all those groups to illegal overthrow the leader of another nation. To top it off he consulted the United Nations not Congress to overthrow Lybia which demands immediate impeachment and arrest for treason. Regime change is none of our business.

Obama is a bloody war mongering war criminal which is far worse than anything you think Trump is and I dont even support Trump. Genocidalist vs. a mean person, you chose.
 
Gutterpump said:
He's at least tried to keep American troops alive
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Right, thats why under his watch he ignored thousands of vets rotting to death in government run VA hospitals while telling everybody how great socialist health care is for all.
 
ax1 said:
Action speaks louder that words, Obama is a interventionist foreign policy maker and a genocidalist serial killer.

It is simple....Years ago they marched right in. If you vow to end the wars we just march right out. Dont let them convince you otherwise. The military industrial complex lobbies him, follow the money and follow the policy. I could care less about what he says out of his Pinocchio face.....

What do you think if China started arming all those people in Furgenson and Chicago to overthrow their "elected" politicians, what do you think the US government is going to do? Those people will be slaughtered.

Obama started that civil war in Syria. He has spend billions of dollars arming all those groups to illegal overthrow the leader of another nation. To top it off he consulted the United Nations not Congress to overthrow Lybia which demands immediate impeachment and arrest for treason. Regime change is none of our business.

Obama is a bloody war mongering war criminal which is far worse than anything you think Trump is and I dont even support Trump. Genocidalist vs. a mean person, you chose.
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2 great points

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