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lol....thanks for the laugh!!! :D
Just the fact that Dump supports the IRS he deserves to be in jail, but anyways here is more evidence Dump is a irresponsible big government immoral high tax socialist spender and needs to be removed.

In 2016, Americans paid $1.4 trillion in individual income taxes.
In 2019, Americans will pay $3.4 trillion in federal taxes

 
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More multiple violations of his oath by Dump of our 1st Amendment....

Dump was Obobo's 3rd term. Nothing different, just another big government hooligan.

US – Trump administration prosecutes third whistleblower under Espionage Act

Reporters Without Borders (RSF) is alarmed that a former government employee was arrested on May 9 and charged with leaking classified information about drone warfare to a news outlet. If found guilty, he could face up to 50 years in prison.

Daniel Hale, a former government intelligence analyst who worked for the National Security Agency (NSA) and the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, was arrested on May 9 and charged in a federal court under the Espionage Act with five crimes related to the disclosure of classified information. This is the third whistleblower the Trump administration has prosecuted under the Espionage Act.

“The prosecution of individuals like Daniel Hale under the Espionage Act is a direct threat to investigative journalism, which often relies on whistleblowers to provide reporters with information of the public interest, whether it be due to moral, ethical or legal concerns,” said Sabine Dolan, interim Executive Director of RSF’s North America bureau. “We need stronger protections for whistleblowers in the United States, especially under an administration that has been explicit in its efforts to crack down on leaks. The use of the Espionage Act against whistleblowers must end.”

Though the reporter Hale shared information with is not named in the indictment, his description matches that of Jeremy Scahill, one of the founding editors of The Intercept, an investigative news website. According to the indictment, after Hale met Scahill in 2013 at a bookstore in Washington, DC, where Scahill was promoting a book he had just published, the two remained in contact and communicated primarily over encrypted messaging applications. Starting in 2014, Hale provided Scahill with several dozen documents—11 of which were classified—on the US drone program.

Since President Donald Trump took office, two whistleblowers—former NSA contractor Reality Winner and FBI agent Terry Albury—have already pleaded guilty to violating the Espionage Act, legislation adopted during World War I to prosecute individuals who shared government secrets with enemies of the United States. In October, Albury was sentenced to four years in prison, and Winner received a five year prison sentence in August. Prior to this, the Obama administration notoriously prosecuted eight whistleblowers under the Espionage Act during his eight years in office, which is more than any previous administration combined.

The United States ranks 48th out of 180 countries in RSF's 2019 World Press Freedom Index, after dropping three places since last year.

 
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I wont go here with an entirely negative view of Dump, Ill end my onslaught with a someone positive 2A grade from The Federalist Society.

Final Assessment? More Good Than Bad.

In his first term, President Trump largely lived up to his promise to protect Americans’ Second Amendment rights. There have been a few missteps along the way, but on the whole, the Trump Administration has kept its word when it comes to our right to keep and bear arms.

https://fedsoc.org/commentary/fedsoc-blog/a-second-amendment-grade-for-president-trump-so-far
 
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in 2017 splg estimated the number of active white supremacists in us at 3,000. they have revised this and said that since 2017 the number has grown 47%. lets go with a even 6,000 active white supremacists in a nation of 350 million.

now lets look at new zealand, there are a estimated 60-70 groups and somewhere between 150-300 core right wing activists in new zealand.

now lets compare numbers. new zealand has a population of under 5 million versus 330 million in the usa. so we have 300 in a population of 5 million versus 6,000 in a population of 330 million...since you are so big on numbers verses size of population you do the math!!!

i think new zealand has far, far, far more white supremacists based on population than the USA!!!
I cant find any of these total numbers. Where does anywhere say total membership numbers?

Not that it matters, because that's not even the point I was making initially. Only that it is good practice to actually listen to what the other side is saying. Doesn't mean you have to agree, but listening gets you further than arguing.
 
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I cant find any of these total numbers. Where does anywhere say total membership numbers?
splg is one of the most corrupt left wing extremist groups in existence, imo. if they estimate 3000 in 2017 you can bet they are going to be on the high side. then they say number has rose 47% since 2017 which is odd since a rational person would think that a black man as president would have swolen their numbers?
 
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splg is one of the most corrupt left wing extremist groups in existence, imo. if they estimate 3000 in 2017 you can bet they are going to be on the high side. then they say number has rose 47% since 2017 which is odd since a rational person would think that a black man as president would have swolen their numbers?
People have been saying for a long time that Trump was a knee-jerk reaction to Obama's presidency. He is the anti-thesis of Obama. His presidency has been centered around some pretty heavy nationalist policies, including trying to build a wall between the US and Mexico, the Muslim ban, increasing tariffs to various nations around the world, and blaming China among a host of other things. While there is nothing wrong with nationalist policies, they do tend to align with more extreme nationalist and supremacist people.

We see this all the time. Our leaderships specifically target groups where blame can be shifted. We blamed China for the NZ Housing Bubble and Trump has blamed Mexicans for bringing undesirables. The consequence of that, even if not intended, is that the population then gets onboard and starts seeing these people as threats to your way of life and they become targets for discrimination. If your leaderships rhetoric is to blame other nations for issues domestically, that's when you see these groups emerge and leadership swell.

There are countless stories of hate directed toward Asians, simply because of coronavirus. Hate against Muslims because of radical terrorism.
 
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People have been saying for a long time that Trump was a knee-jerk reaction to Obama's presidency. He is the anti-thesis of Obama. His presidency has been centered around some pretty heavy nationalist policies, including trying to build a wall between the US and Mexico, the Muslim ban, increasing tariffs to various nations around the world, and blaming China among a host of other things. While there is nothing wrong with nationalist policies, they do tend to align with more extreme nationalist and supremacist people.

We see this all the time. Our leaderships specifically target groups where blame can be shifted. We blamed China for the NZ Housing Bubble and Trump has blamed Mexicans for bringing undesirables. The consequence of that, even if not intended, is that the population then gets onboard and starts seeing these people as threats to your way of life and they become targets for discrimination. If your leaderships rhetoric is to blame other nations for issues domestically, that's when you see these groups emerge and leadership swell.

There are countless stories of hate directed toward Asians, simply because of coronavirus. Hate against Muslims because of radical terrorism.
trump has blamed mexicans for bringing undesirables? please explain, your use of language baffles me.

what trump has done is underscored the need for a border, which is even more apparent since unemployment is so high due to covid19.
 
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People have been saying for a long time that Trump was a knee-jerk reaction to Obama's presidency. He is the anti-thesis of Obama. His presidency has been centered around some pretty heavy nationalist policies, including trying to build a wall between the US and Mexico, the Muslim ban, increasing tariffs to various nations around the world, and blaming China among a host of other things. While there is nothing wrong with nationalist policies, they do tend to align with more extreme nationalist and supremacist people.
There is nothing love with loving your country and wanting people to enter illegally. Illegal immigration is an important issue that needs to be addressed and we probably have had the most slack entry possibly in the entire planet. As far as the Muslim ban goes....it wasnt a Muslim ban. If Dump wanted to ban Muslims he would have banned travel from Indonesia, the most populated Muslim nation on the planet. Demicans are just playing politics and weaponizing certain policies to their advantage and fueling division in our country.

Being a nationalist doest not = racist or xenophobic. Nor do any of these policies you addressed equate to nationalist extremist.

Addressing our trade crisis is not extremist. We have a trade deficit, you have to make deals but Ill tell you no matter what the policy its going to be "racist" or "extremist" with liberals.

By the way Im not a wall guy nor believe in tariffs. But all this extremist xenophobic labeling is all political and nothing else.
 
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Trump has blamed Mexicans for bringing undesirables.
Actually as far as I know "Dump never blamed "Mexicans." Dump blames poor border patrol for making it so easy for criminals and thugs to cross the border which is true. There is supposed to be a legal process to enter the USA and without that we have alot of problems.
 
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trump has blamed mexicans for bringing undesirables? please explain, your use of language baffles me.

what trump has done is underscored the need for a border, which is even more apparent since unemployment is so high due to covid19.
If NZ bordered Mexico NZ whiteys would be the minorities of their own country which they stole anyways, LOL

NZ would be all out hardcore border lockdown protecting their national interests as New Zeleanders, and thats the truth and most people there would support these border lock-downs.
 
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He said this in 1991....but somehow the Dems want us to believe we are all racist. Smh
 
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He said this in 1991....but somehow the Dems want us to believe we are all racist. Smh
They will just call him a uncle tom, sell out, or something stupid to fully discredit him. They already pushed Jesse Jackson out of the way simply for saying the looting is embarrassing.
 
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trump has blamed mexicans for bringing undesirables? please explain, your use of language baffles me.

what trump has done is underscored the need for a border, which is even more apparent since unemployment is so high due to covid19.
He said Mexico brings rapists, criminals and drug dealers when they cross the border.

Again, not a bad thing. I voted for tougher immigration here because it felt lax. But I also know of people who voted for the same thing because they dislike immigrants, not just because of the impact on housing and jobs etc.
 
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There is nothing love with loving your country and wanting people to enter illegally. Illegal immigration is an important issue that needs to be addressed and we probably have had the most slack entry possibly in the entire planet. As far as the Muslim ban goes....it wasnt a Muslim ban. If Dump wanted to ban Muslims he would have banned travel from Indonesia, the most populated Muslim nation on the planet. Demicans are just playing politics and weaponizing certain policies to their advantage and fueling division in our country.

Being a nationalist doest not = racist or xenophobic. Nor do any of these policies you addressed equate to nationalist extremist.

Addressing our trade crisis is not extremist. We have a trade deficit, you have to make deals but Ill tell you no matter what the policy its going to be "racist" or "extremist" with liberals.

By the way Im not a wall guy nor believe in tariffs. But all this extremist xenophobic labeling is all political and nothing else.
You missed the point i was making. I said it's not a bad thing, however for every person who sees it in a rational way, there are some who like the policies simply because they dislike other races, hence why it also appeals to them.

I voted for tougher immigration, but I saw it as a way to prioritize Kiwis (like most same people), but there are those here who voted simply because they dislike immigrants. Hence why more nationalist also attract certain types of other people.

That's not to say the politician is a racist, only that people can twist a policy to suit their beliefs.
 
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You missed the point i was making. I said it's not a bad thing, however for every person who sees it in a rational way, there are some who like the policies simply because they dislike other races, hence why it also appeals to them.
When you govern or manage its really impossible to avoid that. The only thing you can do is condemn the racists and move on.
 
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He said Mexico brings rapists, criminals and drug dealers when they cross the border.

Again, not a bad thing. I voted for tougher immigration here because it felt lax. But I also know of people who voted for the same thing because they dislike immigrants, not just because of the impact on housing and jobs etc.
lets not forget that new zealand has 60 times more white supremacists:cool:
 
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When you govern or manage its really impossible to avoid that. The only thing you can do is condemn the racists and move on.
Exactly!
 
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Let’s go Jo!

End the single party Duopoly!

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Tomorrow is the first debate. Got my popcorn ready. This will be a bloodbath. Pedo joe won’t know what hit him.
I’ll be watching it and have a great time, but it’s missing a few people unfortunately which would have really made this a debate.
 
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Tomorrow is the first debate. Got my popcorn ready. This will be a bloodbath. Pedo joe won’t know what hit him.
I’ll be watching it and have a great time, but it’s missing a few people unfortunately which would have really made this a debate.
 
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Dump is right in this one, we need PED testing before and after the debate, and I say preferably by WADA.

Seriously at some of those debates Groper Joe really looked hopped up on some good stuff. Maybe some Adolf cocktail?
 
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Dump is right in this one, we need PED testing before and after the debate, and I say preferably by WADA.

Seriously at some of those debates Groper Joe really looked hopped up on some good stuff. Maybe some Adolf cocktail?
It is rather strange how he has some days where he is as sharp as can be and then other days where the guy couldn’t tell you what planet he is on.
 
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It is rather strange how he has some days where he is as sharp as can be and then other days where the guy couldn’t tell you what planet he is on.
That is how (early) dementia works lol. There will be good and bad days. Cant believe he is the dem nominee.
 
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It is rather strange how he has some days where he is as sharp as can be and then other days where the guy couldn’t tell you what planet he is on.
tolerance!!!

if he uses those peds all the time they lose effectiveness, this is why they have been hiding biden in his basement.....i look for his handlers to make sure he is hopped up really good for debate---he will be as sharp as biden can be, but even a sharp biden is no match for trump if trump is on his game and not underestimating biden.
 
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That is how (early) dementia works lol. There will be good and bad days. Cant believe he is the dem nominee.
Conservatives dodged a bullet when the dem voters snubbed Tulsi. Clearly the most capable and reasonable of the clown show that was the democrat party of 2020.
 
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Conservatives dodged a bullet when the dem voters snubbed Tulsi. Clearly the most capable and reasonable of the clown show that was the democrat party of 2020.
we can thank hillary for that!!!

hillary also told biden that under no condition should he concede election...hillary clinton=the gift that just keeps giving, lol.
 
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we can thank hillary for that!!!

hillary also told biden that under no condition should he concede election...hillary clinton=the gift that just keeps giving, lol.
The gift that keeps on giving...
 
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we can thank hitlery for that!!!

hitlery also told groper joe that under no condition should he concede election...hitlery =the gift that just keeps giving, lol.
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And you complain about my spelling?
 
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everyone who is for abortion has already been born-ronald reagan.
 
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'woman plows car into trump supporters'

"police say the driver in saturdays incident was a member of 'caravan for justice', which organized the BLACK LIVES MATTER protest".


so lets just call it like it really is, she is a black lives matters organizer.
 
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'woman plows car into trump supporters'

"police say the driver in saturdays incident was a member of 'caravan for justice', which organized the BLACK LIVES MATTER protest".


so lets just call it like it really is, she is a black lives matters organizer.
In your eyes, is this any better or worse than when Trump supporters drive into a crowd of peaceful BLM protestors?
 
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In your eyes, is this any better or worse than when Trump supporters drive into a crowd of peaceful BLM protestors?

did you hear about this story before now? i bet not....if it had been a trump supporter it would have been front page on every media outlet.

btw-i am against anyone driving a vehicle into 'peaceful' protesters....i am a huge supporter of self defense but i oppose ANYONE instigating violence on people acting in a non-violent way.
 
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did you hear about this story before now? i bet not....if it had been a trump supporter it would have been front page on every media outlet.

btw-i am against anyone driving a vehicle into 'peaceful' protesters....i am a huge supporter of self defense but i oppose ANYONE instigating violence on people acting in a non-violent way.
No, but I dont really hear any political news like that because I purposefully avoid it and also dont ever watch your standard “nightly news”. I never knew about the trump supporters driving into BLM protesters until I came on here either. Unless i have a source that I trust to report objectively, I elect not to read it. If its someone projecting something or, for example, discussing +/- of a potential VP nominee or supreme court justice appointment, etc I may read it just to try and have a slight clue of whats going on but when I see a clickbait headline i avoid cuz i know its going to be nothing but an opinion piece anyway.
 
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Let go Jo Jorgensen 2020!!!!!!

#LetHerSpeak
#2ndamendment

Dump and Groper Joe are cowards!

 
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No, but I dont really hear any political news like that because I purposefully avoid it and also dont ever watch your standard “nightly news”. I never knew about the trump supporters driving into BLM protesters until I came on here either. Unless i have a source that I trust to report objectively, I elect not to read it. If its someone projecting something or, for example, discussing +/- of a potential VP nominee or supreme court justice appointment, etc I may read it just to try and have a slight clue of whats going on but when I see a clickbait headline i avoid cuz i know its going to be nothing but an opinion piece anyway.
ok, i can totally understand where you are coming from...i heard about the trump supporters on 4 different sources, but this black lives supporter driving into trump supporters happened saturday and i just now heard about it and it was by accident as a byline to a different story.

i am against instigating violence against either side, but was pointing out the difference in coverage....when a trump supporter does something like this media jumps all over it, when it is against a trump supporter the coverage is much harder to find.
 
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Anyone hear about the voting scandal that Sen IIhan Omar is behind? If that was done by a Republican every news outlet would be reporting it every five minutes.
 
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Anyone hear about the voting scandal that Sen IIhan Omar is behind? If that was done by a Republican every news outlet would be reporting it every five minutes.
no i didn't hear about it...and you are right if done by a republican i would bet money i would have heard about it!!!


going to look and see if i can find!!!
 
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'cleveland businesses boarding up to prepare for rioters ahead of presidential debate'


anyone care to bet they aren't worried about trump supporters rioting...?

well, anyone?

c'mon man, surely someone out there thinks trump supporters will riot?
 
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anyone want to start a business in any city run by democrats-anyone?

they encourage 'peaceful protests' which more times than not turn into not so peaceful looting and rioting.
 
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Haha, whatever helps you sleep at night.
i am white and a trump supporter so i must be a white supremacist-eh?

but what about my native american wife and our 3 children....my wife is a bigger trump supporter than i am and our children aren't far behind.
 
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anyone want to start a business in any city run by democrats-anyone?

they encourage 'peaceful protests' which more times than not turn into not so peaceful looting and rioting.
Couldn’t pay me enough money to start a business in a Democrat ran city!!
 
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i am white and a trump supporter so i must be a white supremacist-eh?

but what about my native american wife and our 3 children....my wife is a bigger trump supporter than i am and our children aren't far behind.
That’s because since you’re white and a Trump supporter then you must be an abusive husband and you’ve brainwashed your family with your white supremacist rhetoric! ****insert sarcasm emoji here****
 
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Off topic.... I got this today and took it for the first time. Chest day today. Was expecting to be blown away but I wasn’t. It didn’t kick in until halfway through my workout. I took a full scoop also.
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