youngandfree
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Cause autocorrect never messes up.
Donald Trump running for president
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Cause autocorrect never messes up.
Woody
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ACA is a Republican bill. Obama and Dems wanted a government option. Forcing people to buy from the private market? Does that actually sound like a democrat bill to you?
Republicans can't repeal or replace it because it's the best they can do. Democrats get the flak because Obama signed it. Fantastic political move by the Republicans.
Dma378
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It always ducking messes up
jimbuick
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Obama did much more than just "sign it."
jimbuick
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"It was a Republican Bill!"
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Was it based on RomneyCare? Yes. Was it a Republican supported bill that Democrats are blamed for "because Obama signed it?" Absolutely not. Obama publicly campaigned for the ACA and the vote on that bill was decidedly partisan with 0 yes votes from Republicans.
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Was it based on RomneyCare? Yes. Was it a Republican supported bill that Democrats are blamed for "because Obama signed it?" Absolutely not. Obama publicly campaigned for the ACA and the vote on that bill was decidedly partisan with 0 yes votes from Republicans.
Aleksandar37
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If you don't enjoy being called a liar, than the solution is fairly simple. Bush did initiate the auto industry bailout so not sure how you're arguing against that no matter at what point he did it during his presidency. You continue to post links that don't support what you're saying because you're obviously not reading them. Then you ask say some vague question like how many companies "went belly up" and claim victory when I don't know the answer. Hint, nobody knows the answer to your extremely vague question. Are you asking how many companies claimed bankruptsy and what does that have to do with the false statement you made about the GDP?
jimbuick
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bigsmall
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You must be the same moron that thought he would not get in lmao.....talk to you in 7 years bud when you lose again...
Dma378
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“The same moron”...as if he was the only person. I would venture to say that half of his supporters even weren’t very confident!!
Is it just politics that make you come off as an *******? Or in all affairs?
Aleksandar37
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Nope, fragile little ****s like that **** would get their feelings hurt. This is their safe space.
Aleksandar37
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You're really not paying attention to how voting works here in the US. People are reactionary and that pendulum swings back and forth. George W gave us Obama and Obama gave us Trump. Enjoy your 4-8 years because your next President is going to be a transgender person with dreadlocks and a degree in women's studies.
jimbuick
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That is what history tells us. One party wins and stays in office long enough for the American people to get tired of nothing getting done, so they vote for the other party. Rinse. Repeat.
Dma378
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People forget that they need their opponents.
What would happen if one party had power and never lost it? Sure, most people would initially say, “great!!” But this would be the fast track to the end of freedom.
Without your opponent across from you, you are not a great fighter.
Sorry, been listening to too much Jordan Pederson lately.
rascal14
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Except Trump blames it on the other party when the government is shut down, yet his party runs it all. Lol
Aleksandar37
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They think if they don't support Trump that's the same as supporting Hillary or Democrats. They don't seem to understand you can actually disagree with both.
Dma378
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Maybe one day it will sink in that no one really likes either one!!
And if you’re completely sold to all issues of the party you identify with, you should really evaluate your own critical thinking skills.
jimbuick
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In a lot of ways, Trump was right. The Repubs didn't have anywhere near enough of a majority to keep the govt running without Dem support. Dems wouldn't give that support unless Repubs gave them a DACA solution.
Now, with that said, Repubs are holding off on giving a DACA solution a chance in the hopes of getting the Dems to vote for the Repubs immigration policies, even though most Americans (from both parties) support a DACA solution.
So, in essence, Dems were holding the budget hostage to get a DACA solution, but Repubs were holding DACA hostage to get their immigration policies approved.
youngandfree
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And because only democrats voted for it.
youngandfree
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Again Bush didn't start the auto bailout. He initiated TARP which was the bank bailout that got hijacked.
Aleksandar37
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Do you want to take 10 seconds to google or do you feel like getting upset again when I make you look stupid? I'm feeling generous tonight.
Aleksandar37
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Bush used 17.4 billion of TARP money to begin bailing out the auto industry in 2008. He even admits to starting it in the link above. Really not sure how you want to argue against his own words, but have at it.
Bush used 17.4 billion of TARP money to begin bailing out the auto industry in 2008. He even admits to starting it in the link above. Really not sure how you want to argue against his own words, but have at it.
ax1
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Its a Republicrat/Demican bill. The majority of both sides supported Obozocare, I dont care what the vote looked like. Even John Boner profited of Obozocare stocks.
Its too late, they never left. They are all the same, including Dump.
Woody
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Johnson just needs that damn 5%. It's how he should campaign. "Both of these guys suck. America deserves better. Vote for me so a third option can get federal funding."
THOR 70
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My company gave me a $2k raise and a 1% increase in profit sharing due to “favorable and beneficial tax reform.” Haven’t looked at my paycheck closely tho.
ax1
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He did get 5% in at least several states, he had a record breaking campaign. Some federal funding is on the way. I did vote for him, but he is one creepy bastard with no charisma.
jimbuick
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I feel like I saw more than a few campaign ads from them that campaigned on just that, but I may be thinking of '12.
ax1
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Wait till the next election is rolling away, starting just 2 more years it will be full steam ahead. This thread will make the site crash!
thebigt
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better say your prayers, lol.
ax1
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What the FBI/FISA Memo Really Tells Us About Our Government
Written by Ron Paul
Monday February 5, 2018
The release of the House Intelligence Committee’s memo on the FBI’s abuse of the FISA process set off a partisan firestorm. The Democrats warned us beforehand that declassifying the memo would be the end the world as we know it. It was reckless to allow Americans to see this classified material, they said. Agents in the field could be harmed, sources and methods would be compromised, they claimed.
Republicans who had seen the memo claimed that it was far worse than Watergate. They said that mass firings would begin immediately after it became public. They said that the criminality of US government agencies exposed by the memo would shock Americans.
Then it was released and the world did not end. FBI agents have thus far not been fired. Seeing “classified” material did not terrify us, but rather it demonstrated clearly that information is kept from us by claiming it is “classified.”
In the end, both sides got it wrong. Here’s what the memo really shows us:
First, the memo demonstrates that there is a “deep state” that does not want things like elections to threaten its existence. Candidate Trump’s repeated promises to get along with Russia and to re-assess NATO so many years after the end of the Cold War were threatening to a Washington that depends on creating enemies to sustain the fear needed to justify a trillion dollar yearly military budget.
Imagine if candidate Trump had kept his campaign promises when he became President. Without the “Russia threat” and without the “China threat” and without the need to dump billions into NATO, we might actually have reaped a “peace dividend” more than a quarter century after the end of the Cold War. That would have starved the war-promoting military-industrial complex and its network of pro-war “think tanks” that populate the Washington Beltway area.
Second, the memo shows us that neither Republicans nor Democrats really care that much about surveillance abuse when average Americans are the victims. It is clear that the FISA abuse detailed in the memo was well known to Republicans like House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes before the memo was actually released. It was likely also well known by Democrats in the House. But both parties suppressed this evidence of FBI abuse of the FISA process until after the FISA Amendments Act could be re-authorized. They didn’t want Americans to know how corrupt the surveillance system really is and how the US has become far too much like East Germany. That might cause more Americans to call up their Representatives and demand that the FISA mass surveillance amendment be allowed to sunset.
Ironically, Chairman Nunes was the biggest cheerleader for the extension of the FISA Amendments even as he knew how terribly the FISA process had been abused!
Finally, hawks on both sides of the aisle in Congress used “Russia-gate” as an excuse to build animosity toward Russia among average Americans. They knew from the classified information that there was no basis for their claims that the Trump Administration was put into office with Moscow’s assistance, but they played along because it served their real goal of keeping the US on war footing and keeping the gravy train rolling.
But don’t worry: the neocons in both parties will soon find another excuse to keep us terrified and ready to flush away a trillion dollars a year on military spending and continue our arguments and new “Cold War” with Russia.
In the meantime, be skeptical of both parties. With few exceptions they are not protecting liberty but promoting its opposite.
Copyright © 2018 by RonPaul Institute. Permission to reprint in whole or in part is gladly granted, provided full credit and a live link are given.
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Written by Ron Paul
Monday February 5, 2018
The release of the House Intelligence Committee’s memo on the FBI’s abuse of the FISA process set off a partisan firestorm. The Democrats warned us beforehand that declassifying the memo would be the end the world as we know it. It was reckless to allow Americans to see this classified material, they said. Agents in the field could be harmed, sources and methods would be compromised, they claimed.
Republicans who had seen the memo claimed that it was far worse than Watergate. They said that mass firings would begin immediately after it became public. They said that the criminality of US government agencies exposed by the memo would shock Americans.
Then it was released and the world did not end. FBI agents have thus far not been fired. Seeing “classified” material did not terrify us, but rather it demonstrated clearly that information is kept from us by claiming it is “classified.”
In the end, both sides got it wrong. Here’s what the memo really shows us:
First, the memo demonstrates that there is a “deep state” that does not want things like elections to threaten its existence. Candidate Trump’s repeated promises to get along with Russia and to re-assess NATO so many years after the end of the Cold War were threatening to a Washington that depends on creating enemies to sustain the fear needed to justify a trillion dollar yearly military budget.
Imagine if candidate Trump had kept his campaign promises when he became President. Without the “Russia threat” and without the “China threat” and without the need to dump billions into NATO, we might actually have reaped a “peace dividend” more than a quarter century after the end of the Cold War. That would have starved the war-promoting military-industrial complex and its network of pro-war “think tanks” that populate the Washington Beltway area.
Second, the memo shows us that neither Republicans nor Democrats really care that much about surveillance abuse when average Americans are the victims. It is clear that the FISA abuse detailed in the memo was well known to Republicans like House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes before the memo was actually released. It was likely also well known by Democrats in the House. But both parties suppressed this evidence of FBI abuse of the FISA process until after the FISA Amendments Act could be re-authorized. They didn’t want Americans to know how corrupt the surveillance system really is and how the US has become far too much like East Germany. That might cause more Americans to call up their Representatives and demand that the FISA mass surveillance amendment be allowed to sunset.
Ironically, Chairman Nunes was the biggest cheerleader for the extension of the FISA Amendments even as he knew how terribly the FISA process had been abused!
Finally, hawks on both sides of the aisle in Congress used “Russia-gate” as an excuse to build animosity toward Russia among average Americans. They knew from the classified information that there was no basis for their claims that the Trump Administration was put into office with Moscow’s assistance, but they played along because it served their real goal of keeping the US on war footing and keeping the gravy train rolling.
But don’t worry: the neocons in both parties will soon find another excuse to keep us terrified and ready to flush away a trillion dollars a year on military spending and continue our arguments and new “Cold War” with Russia.
In the meantime, be skeptical of both parties. With few exceptions they are not protecting liberty but promoting its opposite.
Copyright © 2018 by RonPaul Institute. Permission to reprint in whole or in part is gladly granted, provided full credit and a live link are given.
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ax1
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This is going to be an interesting 3-7 years thats for sure, get your microwave popcorn ready its going to be a big shytshow.
jswain34
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How many times does this need to be explained to you lol? The earth warms -> the glaciers melt -> the oceans cool -> weather patterns change. Even if you dont believe in "global warming" its idiotic to not see the trends in climate change globally. Whether or not you think man has any part to do with it or not (i dont feel like going down this path again), the global climate is changing.
ax1
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Thats messed up, the weather isnt supposed to change.
thebigt
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DUDE CHILL...don't you find it the least bit odd to have snow in the sahara desert...forget about defending an agenda, it's still odd!!!
jswain34
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Haha im not worked up buddy. Didnt mean for it to come off that way. It is definitely odd, I will give you that!
thebigt
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I know right!!! very strange...
Aleksandar37
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What is weird? Cold air and moisture? It's a desert, not a vacuum.
jswain34
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"On Jan. 7, snow fell in one of the hottest places on Earth, blanketing the Sahara Desert north of Algeria's city of Ain Sefra.
While snow is a rare occurrence in the desert area, a similar snow phenomenon happened last year.
"The Ain Serfa region experienced accumulating snow back on Jan. 21, 2017. Snow also fell over the region in December 2016 and January 2012," AccuWeather Meteorologist Jason Nicholls said.
Before 2012, the most recent snowfall in this region appears to have occurred in February 1979.
The desert saw snow due to cold air aloft associated with a surface storm drifting from Spain into northern Algeria."
Only the 4th time since 1979...Id say its a little strange. And 3/4 have been since 2012.
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While snow is a rare occurrence in the desert area, a similar snow phenomenon happened last year.
"The Ain Serfa region experienced accumulating snow back on Jan. 21, 2017. Snow also fell over the region in December 2016 and January 2012," AccuWeather Meteorologist Jason Nicholls said.
Before 2012, the most recent snowfall in this region appears to have occurred in February 1979.
The desert saw snow due to cold air aloft associated with a surface storm drifting from Spain into northern Algeria."
Only the 4th time since 1979...Id say its a little strange. And 3/4 have been since 2012.
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