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Misfit28 said:
Would you say that your Libertarian concepts match that of the Cato Institute? Individualism, Individual Rights, Spontaneous Order, The Rule of Law, Limited Government, Free Markets, The Virtue of Production, Natural Harmony of Interests and Peace?
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Nope, the Cato Institute are full of statists; they believe only government can provide security rather then the free market without any reasoning. The Mises Institute in down my alley.

Misfit28 said:
It hasn't been tried because it won't work.

Government has helped me plenty, it helps fund my research :) I've also received quite a bit of mail and I'm currently communicating on the internet.
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Ok so where is your proof it won't work? Here is anecdotal proof Invalid Link Removed

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Mail can be easily privatized and the internet isn't regulated just watched. Research can be easily privatized too. The free market can easily replace the government as a governing entity while making it more efficient and affordable.
 
Misfit28 said:
Do you also, as a Libertarian, believe that the government doesn't protect intellectual property?
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Ill be clear Im not a "Libertarian" but Id say I would support limited copyright protection as long is not violate others civil liberties. Ill add there is no need for strict dogmatism in policy including Austrian Economics.
 
Misfit28 said:
Do you also, as a Libertarian, believe that the government doesn't protect intellectual property?
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Finally found this by Ron Paul, hard to find much of him talking about this issue.

Ron Paul campaign:
I favor enforcement of intellectual property rights; however, some of the steps taken to protect these rights impose unreasonable burdens on the consumers and even raise civil liberties concerns. As president, I will seek a balance between the interest of copyright holders and consumers of digital media.
 
Gutterpump said:
If you're trying to make fun of a black president by talking in ebonics, sorry but that's fuy67ing racist buddy
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Lmao white guy pulling the racist card. Funny enough, he can speak how he likes. And you can't do anything about it ya keyboard warrior. You used to be cool on here its disappointing to get back on to see a group of very sensitive people.
 
Misfit28 said:
LMAO. OK.

So David Thiel doesn't deserve the billions he has made. Isn't he a Libertarian?
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Being labeled as a "Libertarian" does not mean they are Libertarian. People are bought out, parties get both bought out infiltrated. We have seen this with our entire political system thats currently in power (Republicrats/Demicans) I dunno who David Thiel is, but you need to be aware there has been alot of infiltrating into the Libertarian Party and Tea Party over the last decade both financially and politically.
 
CJNator said:
Nope, the Cato Institute are full of statists; they believe only government can provide security rather then the free market without any reasoning. The Mises Institute in down my alley.



Ok so where is your proof it won't work? Here is anecdotal proof Invalid Link Removed

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Mail can be easily privatized and the internet isn't regulated just watched. Research can be easily privatized too. The free market can easily replace the government as a governing entity while making it more efficient and affordable.
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Somalia anyone?
 
ax1 said:
Being labeled as a "Libertarian" does not mean they are Libertarian. People are bought out, parties get infiltrated. I dunno who David Thiel is, but you need to be aware there has been alot of infiltrating into the Libertarian Party and Tea Party over the last decade both financially and politically.
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Then what the hell DOES it mean? Seems like Libertarianism has a big identity problem. Even they can't decide what's "true" Libertarianism.
 
CJNator said:
Nope, the Cato Institute are full of statists; they believe only government can provide security rather then the free market without any reasoning. The Mises Institute in down my alley.



Ok so where is your proof it won't work? Here is anecdotal proof Invalid Link Removed

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Mail can be easily privatized and the internet isn't regulated just watched. Research can be easily privatized too. The free market can easily replace the government as a governing entity while making it more efficient and affordable.
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You do realize that without the federal government the internet wouldn't exist, right?

Privatized prisons are working out so well, aren't they?
 
ax1 said:
Being labeled as a "Libertarian" does not mean they are Libertarian. People are bought out, parties get both bought out infiltrated. We have seen this with our entire political system thats currently in power (Republicrats/Demicans) I dunno who David Thiel is, but you need to be aware there has been alot of infiltrating into the Libertarian Party and Tea Party over the last decade both financially and politically.
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Sorry, it's Peter Thiel, not David.
 
CJNator said:
Straw man anyone?


Just like utilizing electricity wouldn't be a thing without Thomas Edison.
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Identity crisis anyone? Yes, Somalia was Anarchist. Aren't there anarchist Libertarians as well?

It's pretty funny to use the internet to argue that the internet would still exist without the government when the government was the one who was integral in its creation.
 
Misfit28 said:
You do realize that without the federal government the internet wouldn't exist, right?

Privatized prisons are working out so well, aren't they?
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Plus private prisons are far from private, would you consider the IRS private too because people say so?

pri·vate
ˈprīvit/
adjective
1.
belonging to or for the use of one particular person or group of people only.
"all bedrooms have private facilities"
synonyms:personal, own, individual, special, exclusive, privately owned
"his private plane"
2.
(of a person) having no official or public role or position.
"the paintings were sold to a private collector"
noun

If it doesn't fit the definition it ain't so.
 
CJNator said:
Plus private prisons are far from private, would you consider the IRS private too because people say so?

pri·vate
ˈprīvit/
adjective
1.
belonging to or for the use of one particular person or group of people only.
"all bedrooms have private facilities"
synonyms:personal, own, individual, special, exclusive, privately owned
"his private plane"
2.
(of a person) having no official or public role or position.
"the paintings were sold to a private collector"
noun

If it doesn't fit the definition it ain't so.
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Privatized, not private. LMAO. Big difference.

I can't argue with you, apparently you don't comprehend half of what I'm saying......
 
Misfit28 said:
Then what the hell DOES it mean? Seems like Libertarianism has a big identity problem. Even they can't decide what's "true" Libertarianism.
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It doesnt mean anything, its just a label that someone is slapped with or claims to be.

Why do you insist with identifying with anything other than yourself?
 
Misfit28 said:
You do realize that without the federal government the internet wouldn't exist, right?

Privatized prisons are working out so well, aren't they?
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That is a problem with lobby being in the pockets of politicians...usually democrats or republicans in most cases.

We absolutely do not need a federal government to have an internet.
 
Gutterpump said:
If you're trying to make fun of a black president by talking in ebonics, sorry but that's fuy67ing racist buddy
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Your sensitive liberal slanted eyes and reading comprehension are not the end all measures of racism. Quit calling me a racist and quit being a trolling and antagonizing prick. Plain English.

Read it again so you understand clearly what I'm saying.
 
ax1 said:
That is a problem with lobby being in the pockets of politicians...usually democrats or republicans in most cases.

We absolutely do not need a federal government to have an internet.
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Easy to say that once it's been created, huh?
 
Misfit28 said:
Identity crisis anyone? Yes, Somalia was Anarchist. Aren't there anarchist Libertarians as well?
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Not all libertarians are anarchists and vice versa. Egoists are considered anarchists but they believe that if you can take it by force then it's rightfully yours, that isn't libertarian at all. The only libertarian anarchists are anarcho-capitalists but many don't see them as legitimate due to collective indoctrination.

Somalia isn't anarchism at all, they are lawless and a product of government interventionism.
 
CJNator said:
Not all libertarians are anarchists and vice versa. Egoists are considered anarchists but they believe that if you can take it by force then it's rightfully yours, that isn't libertarian at all. The only libertarian anarchists are anarcho-capitalists but many don't see them as legitimate due to collective indoctrination.

Somalia isn't anarchism at all, they are lawless and a product of government interventionism.
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Isn't "lawless" pretty much the definition of anarchism?

an·ar·chy
/ˈanərkē/
noun
noun: anarchy
a state of disorder due to absence or nonrecognition of authority.
"he must ensure public order in a country threatened with anarchy"
synonyms: lawlessness, nihilism, mobocracy, revolution, insurrection, disorder, chaos, mayhem, tumult, turmoil
"conditions are dangerously ripe for anarchy"
antonyms: government, order
absence of government and absolute freedom of the individual, regarded as a political ideal.
 
Misfit28 said:
Privatized, not private. LMAO. Big difference.

I can't argue with you, apparently you don't comprehend half of what I'm saying......
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Privatized is a verb and private is a adjective in this case or to become private it must be privatized. Seems like you can't comprehend English.
 
Misfit28 said:
Isn't "lawless" pretty much the definition of anarchism?

an·ar·chy
/ˈanərkē/
noun
noun: anarchy
a state of disorder due to absence or nonrecognition of authority.
"he must ensure public order in a country threatened with anarchy"
synonyms:lawlessness, nihilism, mobocracy, revolution, insurrection, disorder, chaos, mayhem, tumult, turmoil
"conditions are dangerously ripe for anarchy"
antonyms:government, order
absence of government and absolute freedom of the individual, regarded as a political ideal.
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mid 16th century: via medieval Latin from Greek anarkhia, from anarkhos, from an- ‘without’ + arkhos ‘chief, ruler.’

Yea you're half correct but some definitions are politically correct rather then just correct. Relativism isnt relative in all cases.
 
CJNator said:
mid 16th century: via medieval Latin from Greek anarkhia, from anarkhos, from an- ‘without’ + arkhos ‘chief, ruler.’

Yea you're half correct but some definitions are politically correct rather then just correct. Relativism isnt relative in all cases.
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Quit being obtuse.

You are trying to be a neckbeard now.
 
CJNator said:
I yes they should but when pubic servants are being used to fill private prisons then by definition it isn't private.
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Pubic servants? LOL.

Private prisons

Prison facilities run by private prison corporations whose services and beds are contracted out by state governments or the Federal Bureau of Prisons.

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Misfit28 said:
Pubic servants? LOL.

Private prisons

Prison facilities run by private prison corporations whose services and beds are contracted out by state governments or the Federal Bureau of Prisons.

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Again this is being politically correct, it's not straightforward. That definition itself is a contradiction.
 
CJNator said:
Again this is being politically correct, it's not straightforward. That definition itself is a contradiction.
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I don't have time to argue in circles with hardheaded folks like you. I actually have to go do some GOVERNMENT FUNDED research here in a minute. LOL.
 
You are literally the most annoying person I've ever talked to anywhere. You are the definition of an internet troll.

troll2
trōl/Submit
verb
verb: troll; 3rd person present: trolls; past tense: trolled; past participle: trolled; gerund or present participle: trolling
1.
informal
make a deliberately offensive or provocative online posting with the aim of upsetting someone or eliciting an angry response from them.
"if people are obviously trolling then I'll delete your posts and do my best to ban you"
2.
fish by trailing a baited line along behind a boat.
"we trolled for mackerel"
carefully and systematically search an area for something.
"a group of companies trolling for partnership opportunities"
3.
sing (something) in a happy and carefree way.
"troll the ancient Yuletide carol"
4.
BRITISH
walk; stroll.
"we all trolled into town"
noun
noun: troll; plural noun: trolls
1.
a person who makes a deliberately offensive or provocative online posting.
informal
a deliberately offensive or provocative online posting.
2.
a line or bait used in trolling for fish.
Origin
late Middle English (in the sense ‘stroll, roll’): origin uncertain; compare with Old French troller ‘wander here and there (in search of game)’ and Middle High German trollen ‘stroll.’

The first definition.

I guess Gutterpump is a troll too, LOL. I've been guilty a time or two myself.
 
Misfit28 said:
You are literally the most annoying person I've ever talked to anywhere. You are the definition of an internet troll.

troll2
trōl/Submit
verb
verb: troll; 3rd person present: trolls; past tense: trolled; past participle: trolled; gerund or present participle: trolling
1.
informal
make a deliberately offensive or provocative online posting with the aim of upsetting someone or eliciting an angry response from them.
"if people are obviously trolling then I'll delete your posts and do my best to ban you"
2.
fish by trailing a baited line along behind a boat.
"we trolled for mackerel"
carefully and systematically search an area for something.
"a group of companies trolling for partnership opportunities"
3.
sing (something) in a happy and carefree way.
"troll the ancient Yuletide carol"
4.
BRITISH
walk; stroll.
"we all trolled into town"
noun
noun: troll; plural noun: trolls
1.
a person who makes a deliberately offensive or provocative online posting.
informal
a deliberately offensive or provocative online posting.
2.
a line or bait used in trolling for fish.
Origin
late Middle English (in the sense ‘stroll, roll’): origin uncertain; compare with Old French troller ‘wander here and there (in search of game)’ and Middle High German trollen ‘stroll.’

The first definition.
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Whether or not I was trying to offend you, can't be proven unless I stated otherwise. Just because you were offended doesn't make you right. Also no I didn't not try to offend you, I merely boomeranged your statement back at you correctly.
 
Misfit28 said:
Pubic servants? LOL.

Private prisons

Prison facilities run by private prison corporations whose services and beds are contracted out by state governments or the Federal Bureau of Prisons.

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A bunch of them have minimum occupancy guarantees on those contracts which is certainly a conflict of interest when it comes to public policy.
 
CJNator said:
Whether or not I was trying to offend you, can't be proven unless I stated otherwise. Just because you were offended doesn't make you right. Also no I didn't not try to offend you, I merely boomeranged your statement back at you correctly.
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Posts like this are the epitome of what I am saying. Have a great weekend!
 
ax1 check this out, you'll definitely be interested in it. Invalid Link Removed

Also this guy made Ron Paul who he is today. Invalid Link Removed
 
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