does muira muama actually elevate test...
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anabolicrhino
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My experience with Powerful was more of an anti-prolactin type effect, similar to cabergoline. It gave me a strange high with a libido charge and a decent leaning effect, but no size or strength gains.
aequitas
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Here is all the articles that i can find at pubmed.....
Actions on Erectile Function and Libido:
Rowland, D. L., et al. “A review of plant-derived and herbal approaches to the treatment of sexual dysfunctions.” J. Sex. Marital Ther. 2003 May-Jun; 29(3): 185-205.
Waynberg, J., et al. ”Effects of Herbal vX on libido and sexual activity in premenopausal and postmenopausal women.” Adv. Ther. 2000 Sep-Oct; 17(5): 255-62.
Waynberg, J. “Male sexual asthenia—interest in a traditional plant-derived medication.” Ethnopharmacology; 1995.
Waynberg, J. “Contributions to the clinical validation of the traditional use of Ptychopetalum guyanna.” Presented at the First International Congress on Ethnopharmacology, Strasbourg, France, June 5-9, 1990.
Gaebler, H. “Revival of the drug Muira puama.” Deut. Apoth. 1979; 22(3): 94–6.
Anti-Anxiety & Nervine Actions:
da Silva, A. L., et al. “Anxiogenic properties of Ptychopetalum olacoides Benth. (Marapuama).” Phytother. Res. 2002; 16(3): 223-6.
Siqueira, I. R., et al. “Psychopharamcological properties of Ptychopetalum olachoides Bentham (Olacaceae).” Pharmaceutical Biol. 1998; 36(5): 327–34.
Hypotensive Actions:
Raymond-Hamet, A. “Physiological action of the extract of muira puama.” Comp. Rend. Soc. Biol. 1932; 109: 1064-7
Olofsson, Eric. “Action of extract of Liriosma ovata on the blood pressure, vessels and respiration of the rabbit.” Compt. Rend. Soc. Biol. 1927; 97: 1639-40.
Anti-fatigue, Tonic, & Adaptogenic Actions:
Bucci, L. R., et al. ”Selected herbals and human exercise performance.” Am. J. Clin. Nutr. 2000 Aug; 72(2 Suppl): 624S-36S.
Paiva, L., et al. “Effects of Ptychocepalum olacoides extract on mouse behaviour in forced swimming and open field tests.” Phytother. Res. 1998; 12(4): 294–96.
Waynberg, J. “Male sexual asthenia—interest in a traditional plant-derived medication.” Ethnopharmacology; 1995.
Hanawa, M., et al. “Composition containing an extract from muira puama root and plant worm extract.” Taisho Pharmacuetical Co., Ltd., Tokyo, United States Patent No. 6024984, 2000.
Siqueira, I. R., et al. “Psychopharamcological properties of Ptychopetalum olachoides Bentham (Olacaceae).” Pharmaceutical Biol. 1998; 36(5): 327–34.
Memory Enhancement & Neuroprotective Actions:
da Silva, A. L., et al. “Memory retrieval improvement by Ptychopetalum olacoides in young and aging mice.” J. Ethnopharmacol. 2004 Dec; 95(2-3): 199-203.
Siqueira, I. R., et al. “Neuroprotective effects of Ptychopetalum olacoides Bentham (Olacaceae) on oxygen and glucose deprivation induced damage in rat hippocampal slices.” Life Sci. 2004 Aug; 75(15): 1897-906.
Siqueira, I. R., et al. “Ptychopetalum olacoides, a traditional Amazonian "nerve tonic," possesses anticholinesterase activity.” Pharmacol. Biochem. Behav. 2003 Jun; 75(3): 645-50.
Siqueira, I. R., et al. “Psychopharamcological properties of Ptychopetalum olachoides Bentham (Olacaceae).” Pharmaceutical Biol. 1998; 36(5): 327–34.
Forgacs, P., et al. “Phytochemical and biological activity studies on 18 plants from French Guyana.” Plant Med. Phytother. 1983; 17(1): 22–32.
Dias Da Silva, Rodolpho. “Medicinal plants of Brazil. Botanical and pharmacognostic studies. Muira puama.” Rev. Bras. Med. Pharm. 1925; 1(1): 37–41.
Anti-cholesterol Actions:
Jayasuriya, H., et al. “Diterpenoid, steroid, and triterpenoid agonists of liver X receptors from diversified terrestrial plants and marine sources.” J. Nat. Prod. 2005; 68(8): 1247-52.
Cherksey, B. D. “Method of preparing Muira puama extract and its use for decreasing body fat percentage and increasing lean muscle mass.” United States Patent No. 5516516, 1996.
The last article under Anti-cholesterol Actions mentions increasing muscle mass in the title of the article, but it is a patent. I cannot find this article however. Most of this evidence of its mechanism of action is anectodal and hyped up by Usp labs. I experienced nothing from powerfull, not even increased sleep.
Actions on Erectile Function and Libido:
Rowland, D. L., et al. “A review of plant-derived and herbal approaches to the treatment of sexual dysfunctions.” J. Sex. Marital Ther. 2003 May-Jun; 29(3): 185-205.
Waynberg, J., et al. ”Effects of Herbal vX on libido and sexual activity in premenopausal and postmenopausal women.” Adv. Ther. 2000 Sep-Oct; 17(5): 255-62.
Waynberg, J. “Male sexual asthenia—interest in a traditional plant-derived medication.” Ethnopharmacology; 1995.
Waynberg, J. “Contributions to the clinical validation of the traditional use of Ptychopetalum guyanna.” Presented at the First International Congress on Ethnopharmacology, Strasbourg, France, June 5-9, 1990.
Gaebler, H. “Revival of the drug Muira puama.” Deut. Apoth. 1979; 22(3): 94–6.
Anti-Anxiety & Nervine Actions:
da Silva, A. L., et al. “Anxiogenic properties of Ptychopetalum olacoides Benth. (Marapuama).” Phytother. Res. 2002; 16(3): 223-6.
Siqueira, I. R., et al. “Psychopharamcological properties of Ptychopetalum olachoides Bentham (Olacaceae).” Pharmaceutical Biol. 1998; 36(5): 327–34.
Hypotensive Actions:
Raymond-Hamet, A. “Physiological action of the extract of muira puama.” Comp. Rend. Soc. Biol. 1932; 109: 1064-7
Olofsson, Eric. “Action of extract of Liriosma ovata on the blood pressure, vessels and respiration of the rabbit.” Compt. Rend. Soc. Biol. 1927; 97: 1639-40.
Anti-fatigue, Tonic, & Adaptogenic Actions:
Bucci, L. R., et al. ”Selected herbals and human exercise performance.” Am. J. Clin. Nutr. 2000 Aug; 72(2 Suppl): 624S-36S.
Paiva, L., et al. “Effects of Ptychocepalum olacoides extract on mouse behaviour in forced swimming and open field tests.” Phytother. Res. 1998; 12(4): 294–96.
Waynberg, J. “Male sexual asthenia—interest in a traditional plant-derived medication.” Ethnopharmacology; 1995.
Hanawa, M., et al. “Composition containing an extract from muira puama root and plant worm extract.” Taisho Pharmacuetical Co., Ltd., Tokyo, United States Patent No. 6024984, 2000.
Siqueira, I. R., et al. “Psychopharamcological properties of Ptychopetalum olachoides Bentham (Olacaceae).” Pharmaceutical Biol. 1998; 36(5): 327–34.
Memory Enhancement & Neuroprotective Actions:
da Silva, A. L., et al. “Memory retrieval improvement by Ptychopetalum olacoides in young and aging mice.” J. Ethnopharmacol. 2004 Dec; 95(2-3): 199-203.
Siqueira, I. R., et al. “Neuroprotective effects of Ptychopetalum olacoides Bentham (Olacaceae) on oxygen and glucose deprivation induced damage in rat hippocampal slices.” Life Sci. 2004 Aug; 75(15): 1897-906.
Siqueira, I. R., et al. “Ptychopetalum olacoides, a traditional Amazonian "nerve tonic," possesses anticholinesterase activity.” Pharmacol. Biochem. Behav. 2003 Jun; 75(3): 645-50.
Siqueira, I. R., et al. “Psychopharamcological properties of Ptychopetalum olachoides Bentham (Olacaceae).” Pharmaceutical Biol. 1998; 36(5): 327–34.
Forgacs, P., et al. “Phytochemical and biological activity studies on 18 plants from French Guyana.” Plant Med. Phytother. 1983; 17(1): 22–32.
Dias Da Silva, Rodolpho. “Medicinal plants of Brazil. Botanical and pharmacognostic studies. Muira puama.” Rev. Bras. Med. Pharm. 1925; 1(1): 37–41.
Anti-cholesterol Actions:
Jayasuriya, H., et al. “Diterpenoid, steroid, and triterpenoid agonists of liver X receptors from diversified terrestrial plants and marine sources.” J. Nat. Prod. 2005; 68(8): 1247-52.
Cherksey, B. D. “Method of preparing Muira puama extract and its use for decreasing body fat percentage and increasing lean muscle mass.” United States Patent No. 5516516, 1996.
The last article under Anti-cholesterol Actions mentions increasing muscle mass in the title of the article, but it is a patent. I cannot find this article however. Most of this evidence of its mechanism of action is anectodal and hyped up by Usp labs. I experienced nothing from powerfull, not even increased sleep.
Stay Puft
Avant Research Guru
Note: I am not attempting to discredit the efficacy of said products with this post. I have not tried them.
To many folk in this industry (manufacturers and patrons alike) that incorrectly associate libido improvment with a corresponding testosterone increase. This is simply not the case. An increase in erectile function is also commonly misassociated with test increase. Yohimbine is a perfect example - its represents a viable method of ED treatment without any effects on testosterone. Sildenafil is another example.
Trib was thought for years to be a great natural test booster before the data came out that it didn't do ****. Caution should be used when associating increasing in anything given the complexity of the biological systems at play.
As a rule of thumb: If you take a test booster that doesn't appear to have a latent testosterone reducing effect (ie. crash upon cessation of use, or 'shutdown') then it is unlikely to infact increase test. It MAY, but data would be much more heplful in making such an association.
To many folk in this industry (manufacturers and patrons alike) that incorrectly associate libido improvment with a corresponding testosterone increase. This is simply not the case. An increase in erectile function is also commonly misassociated with test increase. Yohimbine is a perfect example - its represents a viable method of ED treatment without any effects on testosterone. Sildenafil is another example.
Trib was thought for years to be a great natural test booster before the data came out that it didn't do ****. Caution should be used when associating increasing in anything given the complexity of the biological systems at play.
As a rule of thumb: If you take a test booster that doesn't appear to have a latent testosterone reducing effect (ie. crash upon cessation of use, or 'shutdown') then it is unlikely to infact increase test. It MAY, but data would be much more heplful in making such an association.
aequitas
New member
Stay Puft said:Note: I am not attempting to discredit the efficacy of said products with this post. I have not tried them.
To many folk in this industry (manufacturers and patrons alike) that incorrectly associate libido improvment with a corresponding testosterone increase. This is simply not the case. An increase in erectile function is also commonly misassociated with test increase. Yohimbine is a perfect example - its represents a viable method of ED treatment without any effects on testosterone. Sildenafil is another example.
Trib was thought for years to be a great natural test booster before the data came out that it didn't do ****. Caution should be used when associating increasing in anything given the complexity of the biological systems at play.
As a rule of thumb: If you take a test booster that doesn't appear to have a latent testosterone reducing effect (ie. crash upon cessation of use, or 'shutdown') then it is unlikely to infact increase test. It MAY, but data would be much more heplful in making such an association.
Very well put.
GuyverX
Well-known member
I think it may possibly work like maca or something.
similar to an adaptogen which helps with focus, sleep, and libido.
GO_OUTSIDE!
Member
remember what works for one may not work for another. ON's tribulous works very well for me. Huge libido increase, deeper voice, aggression. Gains you ask...not so much. Could be my diet and overtraining.
GuyverX
Well-known member
good point.
some are non responders while others respond well.
the old powerfull(red/orange caps) worked for me at only 4 caps a day. the recommended 8 caps was even better. good libido..I could bang my girl for longer, nice size and vascularity in the muscle..., could sleep a few hours and it seemed to refresh me better....
and I can swear my hands got bigger...
the new powerfull... i got nothing except maybe a slightly enhanced libido and a little aggression