Does LGD aromatize?
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supadupastar
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No, but it does cause supression.
yotreeman
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You should go snag a test base like 4 andro and a SERM for PCT.
yotreeman
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Just be aware, then, you'll certainly be running into some significant lethargy on your cycle.
yotreeman
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No SERM, no cycle. Period.
Risking the functionality of your HPTA is not worth a couple pounds of glycogen and muscle, especially when, without a real PCT, you won't keep it.
yotreeman
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Clomid or Nolva. I don't really have a major preference.
yotreeman
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I'm not really trying to encourage you to run an andro with it (you could do 4 andro, epi, or just androsterone), I'm just thinking in terms of legally combating the lethargy that I just can't stand while on cycle.
Running LGD solo is quite common and effective.
yotreeman
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Good luck. What's your dosing? I did 10 mgs for the first four weeks, then 20 for the last two.
yotreeman
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Six weeks. 10/10/10/10/20/20.
20 mgs gave me skin-splitting pumps, but the lethargy definitely started kicking my ass.
Joe12
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I'm the exact opposite, SARMS have not been through complete clinical trials, so no one knows what they do in the long run. Everyone assumes they are "safer" but the reality is, they are identical to PHs in the short term when comparing blood work. They tank your lipids, shut down your HPTA, and leave your test low. That is identical to a PH run.
Regarding the test base, a test booster will not counter react a compound like LGD. You need a real test base as yotreeman mentioned. I ran LGD (one time) without a test base for 6-weeks, at 10mg, and by the 4th week I was coming home and taking a nap just to make it through the day. If you are concerned about aromatizing, use EPI as your test base. Its milder then andro 4, and should keep your test up, and keep away lethargy. Plus provide some gains.
Joe12
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As long as you have EPI as a test base, you should be fine. I would recommend snagging a bottle of OL EPI (Elite size). You can get it fairly cheap at nutri-verse, they have 20% off OL products now, and you can also use the save10now code for another 10% off. One bottle should cover you if you run 500 for the first month, then step it up to 750 for the remainder of the run. I'm assuming your doing an 8-week run? Also, with LGD, majority will tell you 10mg (max 12) is the sweet spot to balance sides/gains, anything above that, and you might end up with more sides then you want.
Joe12
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EPI and 4 andro are different compounds.
I recommend Olympus Labs Epi. I think OL are the best on the market and use in-house and third party testers on their products. That's about as good as it gets from a sup company.
Joe12
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EPI and 4 andro are different compounds.
I recommend Olympus Labs Epi. I think OL are the best on the market and use in-house and third party testers on their products. That's about as good as it gets from a sup company.
yotreeman
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4 and Epi convert to test and DHT respectively, so they'll keep your libido up.
Hard Rock Supplements and Olympus Labs are both probably the most popular sources of them.
Also, which one you use would depend on your goals. If you're bulking atm, you definitely need 4. Good wet compound. If cutting or recomping, epi is dry and lean af but not much in the gains department.
chemjr
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Why? 4 andro is a True pro hormone, something that the body converts into actual testosterone in this case. Not like the designer roids of the older days that were called ph's like Superdrol and hdrol etc.
4 andro would pair perfect w lgd bc lgd IS suppressive, quite suppressive. So you'd be replacing what lgd is taking away and getting the max out of your run.
If you'd touch lgd but not 4 andro then your knowledge and priorities are out of whack and you need to take Much more time to learn about these things than to take the word of forums whores. Even myself!
Best of luck sir.
chemjr
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Wow, I hope you haven't fkt yourself up yet. Lgd at 20mg a day is as suppressive as 15mg of dbol a day or low dose trt. Fkn a man, gotta do more homework! This is your body, and the Most important part - your manhood! Not to mention I can pretty much guarantee you won't be getting bloods done and that **** does fk up your cholesterol levels. Good luck man. I truly wish you the best.
rockymtnoak
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running sup3er DHEA with lgd and mk677. first almost 4 weeks were incredible then definitely hit lethargy. (added in the sup3r dhea at that point) and that was enough to keep me tearing it up haha with a few weeks to go. and there are more suppressive sarms by a long shot than lgd.
yotreeman
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Such as? I've never experienced suppression from any SARM rivaling what I got from LGD, and have always heard from everyone else who's run it that it's by far the most suppressive.
Joe12
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BTW, what exactly are you taking at the moment. Keep in mind, no matter what you take, if you are going down the hormonal road your hpta gets shut down. Its not, "if' it will shut you down, the question is will you feel sides from the shut down. This is why you take a test base, so the actule shut down dosent impact you. If you want to play, you got to pay, there are sides to all compounds... The question is, how will your body respond, can you control the sides, and is it worth it. If you are getting cold feet, I say experiment with a couple natty anabolics first, you are young and your test is already high. So if a natty stack can get you over the hump, go for it.
Chudmuffin
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If you have taken other sarms and real gear then why stop your cycle two weeks in? You should know what you need to do to rebound. Seems like a waste of money and time to me
rockymtnoak
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rad 140, yk11. they are pretty suppressive. one of them for all intents and purposes is a steroid labeled as a sarm. I'm in pct from my lgd run and 2 weeks in almost now at this point and I'm bouncing back incredibly fast. don't get me wrong it was suppressive, and hit hard after 4 weeks.. (can't imagine an 8 week plus run. 6 was all I could handle before tapping)