Does anyone else feel this way on test?

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Just something I wanted to hear... if you guys also feel this way...I am on 250ish test a week on a slow gaining phase and things are going well, good recovery, strength and endurance up etc.

But damn i feel like I am on estrogen and not on testosterone, it happens every time I go over 200 a week, and even on 200 a week after some time. Emotional, listening to weird music and sh1t. Mild blues also. I dont like taking AIs due to joint pain and less fullness and pumps, worse recovery plus I know they suck and promote atherosclerosis.

Its like this every time. Last time i blasted I also felt like sh1t until I introduced tren, but I aint using tren anymore.


0 gyno symptoms or issues with nipples though. I am not sensitive to that.
 

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Probably high estrogen. If you start getting emotional listening to music and wanting to cry and ****, take an AI
It is man! But how it happens on those low doses.

I think its about t/e ratio rather than absolute numbers. I just probably naturally convert a lot to e2 and very little to dht.


honestly not sure if feeling emotional warrants taking ai in absence of other symptoms like gyno or water retention. Waiting for Jinsun to start flaming me for decision to stay on :ROFLMAO:


And I mean as far as growth goes this isnt a bad situation...e2 is beneficial. Higher igf.
 

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It is man! But how it happens on those low doses.

I think its about t/e ratio rather than absolute numbers. I just probably naturally convert a lot to e2 and very little to dht.


honestly not sure if feeling emotional warrants taking ai in absence of other symptoms like gyno or water retention. Waiting for Jinsun to start flaming me for decision to stay on :ROFLMAO:
I think your on to something there. I upped my 200mg T a week to 400 for the past 8weeks, didn’t feel as good as I thought it would. I was also taking var and thought that would help offset the need for an AI, I was wrong. I’m back down to 200/week now. I definitely gained more, looked fuller and recovered better on the higher dose, but not worth the trade off of libido and mood for me.
 

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Interesting how there comes a certain sense of tranquility with high e2. Serotonin maybe.

@Uncle_E yes high e2. Although as far as libido goes for me it doesnt matter, 500 or 100mg of test, low or high e2, its non-existent without hcg.

A lot of growth benefits you get from higher test dose are from higher e2 levels also.
 

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Have you thought about adding a low dose Mast or Primo? I think a 1/1 dose could help, my choice would be Primo since that would be easier on the lipids but I hear ppl do Mast year around with their TRT dose and not having their lipids effected too much if any.
 

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Have you thought about adding a low dose Mast or Primo? I think a 1/1 dose could help, my choice would be Primo since that would be easier on the lipids but I hear ppl do Mast year around with their TRT dose and not having their lipids effected too much if any.
I did, but later as right now I am only concerned about gaining, and mast wont do anything, will just wreck lipids and make me shed.
 

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I did, but later as right now I am only concerned about gaining, and mast wont do anything, will just wreck lipids and make me shed.
Try Primo then, it shouldn’t hurt you lipids and will help to keep your E under control. Primo is my favorite and wish I added that to my cycle now, Primo (to me) is such a “feel good” drug it’s hard to get off.
 

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Try Primo then, it shouldn’t hurt you lipids and will help to keep your E under control. Primo is my favorite and wish I added that to my cycle now, Primo (to me) is such a “feel good” drug it’s hard to get off.
Expensive af and all my sources are sketchy at best so not really sure if its worth the gamble.

But I agree primo would be an amazing anabolic to add to the gaining cycle.
 
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Ahhh cro my bro, I saw the title of this thread and my immediate thought was that there was no chance anyone else would experience the same as you do my friend 😂

But nope I don’t at all. The best I feel is on a slightly high trt dose. I feel good at higher doses but the orals and effort of growing is tiring on a bulk. Cutting I enjoy more but generally just that 250 ball Park is nice I find
 
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Interesting how there comes a certain sense of tranquility with high e2. Serotonin maybe.

@Uncle_E yes high e2. Although as far as libido goes for me it doesnt matter, 500 or 100mg of test, low or high e2, it's non-existent without hcg.

A lot of growth benefits you get from higher test dose are from higher e2 levels also.
I have the same issues. On a tip I recently added 200mg pregnenolone daily since I've been off hCG for so long. Within two weeks my libido is raging like a highschooler.

I recently tried 1500mgs but it was absolutely terrible. No libido, no erections, and never got E2 under control. It was either too high or too low. I'm back to 140mg TRT and feeling pretty good. From experience 300mg test with .5mg Ari is my best gains to sides dose and I feel really good on it.
 

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I have the same issues. On a tip I recently added 200mg pregnenolone daily since I've been off hCG for so long. Within two weeks my libido is raging like a highschooler.

I recently tried 1500mgs but it was absolutely terrible. No libido, no erections, and never got E2 under control. It was either too high or too low. I'm back to 140mg TRT and feeling pretty good. From experience 300mg test with .5mg Ari is my best gains to sides dose and I feel really good on it.
I need hcg anyway to keep balls active. So that will solve libido issues.

As far as estro i need like 1/4 of asin a week on this dose so i sometimes take it if i feel its too much being that emotional.

Estro levels dont really impact libido, maybe because its impossible to crush e2 with hcg. I can be a crying wreck and still have libido.

But still as little ai as possible for dem gains,
 
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Some people respond poorly to testosterone, aromatize more and it’s harder to control brother. You shouldn’t feel messed up on 200mg...
 
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I need hcg anyway to keep balls active. So that will solve libido issues.

As far as estro i need like 1/4 of asin a week on this dose so i sometimes take it if i feel its too much being that emotional.

Estro levels dont really impact libido, maybe because its impossible to crush e2 with hcg. I can be a crying wreck and still have libido.

But still as little ai as possible for dem gains,
Thankfully I don't get a lot of atrophy.
 
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Microdosing liquid Exem worked great for me last cycle. Start with 1-2mg per day and adjust from there.
 
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Just something I wanted to hear... if you guys also feel this way...I am on 250ish test a week on a slow gaining phase and things are going well, good recovery, strength and endurance up etc.

But damn i feel like I am on estrogen and not on testosterone, it happens every time I go over 200 a week, and even on 200 a week after some time. Emotional, listening to weird music and sh1t. Mild blues also. I dont like taking AIs due to joint pain and less fullness and pumps, worse recovery plus I know they suck and promote atherosclerosis.

Its like this every time. Last time i blasted I also felt like sh1t until I introduced tren, but I aint using tren anymore.


0 gyno symptoms or issues with nipples though. I am not sensitive to that.
I get a bit more emotional on test. Kind if like it though.
 
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Just something I wanted to hear... if you guys also feel this way...I am on 250ish test a week on a slow gaining phase and things are going well, good recovery, strength and endurance up etc.

But damn i feel like I am on estrogen and not on testosterone, it happens every time I go over 200 a week, and even on 200 a week after some time. Emotional, listening to weird music and sh1t. Mild blues also. I dont like taking AIs due to joint pain and less fullness and pumps, worse recovery plus I know they suck and promote atherosclerosis.

Its like this every time. Last time i blasted I also felt like sh1t until I introduced tren, but I aint using tren anymore.


0 gyno symptoms or issues with nipples though. I am not sensitive to that.
Bro, ... just take a small dose of an Ai (it wont kill you) and stop wasting the AM's server space : D
 

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Bro, ... just take a small dose of an Ai (it wont kill you) and stop wasting the AM's server space : D
Off to watch Titanic.

@BennyMagoo79 yeah man more emotional and empathetic, more socila and outgoing. In contrast to damn tren where i curl up in a ball or better said, curl up in front of pc and dont interact with anyone.
 
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Off to watch Titanic.

@BennyMagoo79 yeah man more emotional and empathetic, more socila and outgoing. In contrast to damn tren where i curl up in a ball or better said, curl up in front of pc and dont interact with anyone.

Haha yeah, I have noticed Tren makes me despise strangers a little.

But when I started taking test, it was as if the movie that is my life went from black and white to full colour, if that makes any sense?
 

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Haha yeah, I have noticed Tren makes me despise strangers a little.

But when I started taking test, it was as if the movie that is my life went from black and white to full colour, if that makes any sense?
Lots of things are possible. I also feel better on test. Sleep is fantastic while otherwise i am lucky to get 6 hours. Anxiety waay down. Better mood. Less stressed out overall. When test kicks in i would compare the mood to having a drink or 2 serious.

I honestly mostly take it for the energy and recovery abilities. Not just for muscle building. I mean yes i am trying to improve my physique but the main reason is that i want to have energy i had when i was 15-18 to be able to do all the stuff i missed out on.
I want to be able to work out, hike and go out in the evening on the same day. I cant do that anymore. But on test and mk I find that i can 😀

Best of all i find thay any dose of 200mg or above will do it, with half ml of mk daily with some kind of cycling regiment.


I dont want to feel beat up and tired. I know this is costing years off the end of my life, but i dont want those sick years. Majority of us on anabolics forum arent all about longevity anyway. If we really cared about hsving the longest life ppssible we wouldnt be doing any of this.
 
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Lots of things are possible. I also feel better on test. Sleep is fantastic while otherwise i am lucky to get 6 hours. Anxiety waay down. Better mood. Less stressed out overall. When test kicks in i would compare the mood to having a drink or 2 serious.

I honestly mostly take it for the energy and recovery abilities. Not just for muscle building. I mean yes i am trying to improve my physique but the main reason is that i want to have energy i had when i was 15-18 to be able to do all the stuff i missed out on.
I want to be able to work out, hike and go out in the evening on the same day. I cant do that anymore. But on test and mk I find that i can 😀

Best of all i find thay any dose of 200mg or above will do it, with half ml of mk daily with some kind of cycling regiment.


I dont want to feel beat up and tired. I know this is costing years off the end of my life, but i dont want those sick years. Majority of us on anabolics forum arent all about longevity anyway. If we really cared about hsving the longest life ppssible we wouldnt be doing any of this.
I do care about lifespan but I care more about healthspan. I’ll accept less years total to live more of the ones i do in good functional health
 

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