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Do you have low testosterone?

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I got a few DM recently (il keep names private) and this is a issue I've helped some friends and clients with in the past and I want to try to save a few ppl from themselves 😜.

Its common for guys to want to "try" TRT temporarily or "see how they respond" to a extremely low dose cycle of test or even prohormones ect.

Guys it's completely counter productive. I have a much better solution, but before I get into that, here is what you guys are doing to yourself.

If you have low testosterone, and you try to do a 8-12 week "TRT" cycle, your gonna completely shut down your already low testosterone, it's going to take 4-6 weeks before your testosterone levels get to a mid to high natural range, and if your lucky, you will spend the last 4-8 weeks of your cycle feeling normal at best. Then you PCT with crashed levels and come back lower then you started. On a scale of 1 to 10 your rewards are a 1 and the risks will vary but there more then your reward. On the "see how my body reacts" side of the fence, When you run a pro-hormone or steroid cycle at a dose lower then the typical baby step beginner doses, you are still shutting down testosterone and now your not taking enough to build any muscle. Again , all risk, no to low rewards.


Do a restart! Go get some HCG and a serm, take 500iu of HCG every other day till the bottle runs out and take 12.5mg of enclomphine or 20mg ob nolva or whatever serm of your choice for another 6-8 weeks.

Halfway through your serm, go get testosterone levels checked, they should be significantly higher, top of the reference range for many. 2-3 months later, go get the levels checked again. See if they stayed elevated or sloped off.

This is going to make you feel better if you have low testosterone, it's going to prevent the issues you would have faced with the "cycle" and it's going to tell you if you can fix your testosterone levels or if you're going to need TRT/HRT

And for the guys wanting to run a pro-hormone at a quarter or half dose, just run a cycle or stay natural. Your lieing to yourself to justify a "cycle" that won't produce any gains.

If your goal was to go out for drinks with friends tonight, what if I told you to only take 1 sip of booze so you can see how your body reacts, that's all you get for the night, but here's the catch. Your not going to feel anything other than a possible placebo effect, your not going to get a buzz, your not going to enjoy the night because your sober while everyone else is drunk, but your still going to throw up tonight and be hung over tomorrow.

Thats what you get when you take stupid low doses to "see how my body responds:/"

Stop stomping on your own toes guys
 
Good advice! Not done the HCG route, but might be time to look into it. As for enclomiphene, can highly recommend. I love Torem for my serm of choice.
 
Good advice! Not done the HCG route, but might be time to look into it. As for enclomiphene, can highly recommend. I love Torem for my serm of choice.

Agree on the Torem choice! Contrary to popular opinion 20mg of Nolva makes me moody, but Clomid treats me ok.

OP, this is an interesting explanation, thanks for posting. One thing I will add is natty test can fluctuate. Anyone with issues would do well to clean up the diet and sleep (that’s hard I know) and get additional tests. Mine definitely changed over time.
 
my total test was 62ng/dl......i knew something was wrong when i was at home making lace doilies while sipping a cup of hot tea clasped with two hands with a sweater tied around my waist :ROFLMAO:
 
Good advice! Not done the HCG route, but might be time to look into it. As for enclomiphene, can highly recommend. I love Torem for my serm of choice.
Running torem with enclomiphene right now cycled off trt first week was doing 60mg of torem with 12.5mg of enclomiphene felt amazing( I had been on test c cold turkey for 38-40days) on my second week been using 6.25mg enclomiphene with 40 torem. After 14days I will just use the torem at 20-30mg until its gone then start with 3.125mg-6.25mg of enclomiphene. Got labs in 15days hoping my fsh lh and levels look better.
 
Running torem with enclomiphene right now cycled off trt first week was doing 60mg of torem with 12.5mg of enclomiphene felt amazing( I had been on test c cold turkey for 38-40days) on my second week been using 6.25mg enclomiphene with 40 torem. After 14days I will just use the torem at 20-30mg until its gone then start with 3.125mg-6.25mg of enclomiphene. Got labs in 15days hoping my fshI lh and levels look better.

Running torem with enclomiphene right now cycled off trt first week was doing 60mg of torem with 12.5mg of enclomiphene felt amazing( I had been on test c cold turkey for 38-40days) on my second week been using 6.25mg enclomiphene with 40 torem. After 14days I will just use the torem at 20-30mg until its gone then start with 3.125mg-6.25mg of enclomiphene. Got labs in 15days hoping my fsh lh and levels look better.
I use torem every cycle, and it's a chore to not sit on my balls lol. I've gotten blood done and it's the best option for me, in terms of hits to lipids and what not. Enclomiphene had been great at helping me maintain my drive and progress at 51 years young. I'll occasionally throw some torem in when cruising if I'm noticing some holes in my protocol. I have a soft spot for torem if you can't tell. For the record, I have low estrogen. Torem simply makes it easier, in my experience, it's night and day for me.
 
I use torem every cycle, and it's a chore to not sit on my balls lol. I've gotten blood done and it's the best option for me, in terms of hits to lipids and what not. Enclomiphene had been great at helping me maintain my drive and progress at 51 years young. I'll occasionally throw some torem in when cruising if I'm noticing some holes in my protocol. I have a soft spot for torem if you can't tell. For the record, I have low estrogen. Torem simply makes it easier, in my experience, it's night and day for me.
Yes I have definitely noticed the problem with sitting on my balls now. Got labs back FSH 1.50 and LH is 2.5 they both were 0 or 0.04 something like that after stopping test. Only problem is total test was 93 and free was 10 something like that 😑 pretty low definitely feel tired but the torem and enclom have helped mood quite a bit. I was hoping for higher levels but I am assuming I just am still suppressed a bit from test cyp. I hope Mike gets better love his enclomiphene and torem about to put another order in for torem if I can.
 
Actually got my bloodwork back today. Lowest test i had in years. This after being on a very popular testbooster for a month.i feel fine and caring muscle well. Training bjj muay thai 3 times per week and lifting 4.
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