Do veterans tend to favor Dbol over nandrolone?
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Chados
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An oral would improve the deca yes or do you mean oral instead of deca?
YamahaC76
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Probably will end up stacking NPP and Dbol, and just man up for the EOD pinning. Probably will still do test E however or does that not make sense? Would test Prop be more appropriate ?
I'm only familiar with Test at 500 and NPP at 300 weekly. Is there a better synergistic way to run these with dbol as well? 50mg dbol.
edsd
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Question for those who have used it but 50mg of dbol or 20mg superdrol? If you are going to run test wouldn’t superdrol yield more keepable gains than dbol?
Chados
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Just do deca and test e with dbol to kick.. Start the dbol at week 3 when test and deca is running higher in your blood
YamahaC76
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Test @ 400 and Deca at 400? Split dose of 200/200 inject twice a week? I know you said longer esters yield better results, but I definitely don't want deca dick and didn't get it with NPP. No prolactin issues with NPP also.
Or if I keep test at 250, What should deca be dosed at?
Dbol at 50mg for how many weeks? 4, 8?
Matthersby
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I’d like test @250-300 Deca or NPP @ 500.
Matthersby
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Dbol 5-6 weeks
Chados
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Test 2-400 deca 4-600 dbol 30-40. You need an ai and caber.
I don't see you having deca dick when using caber and test. Deca should be more anabolic but also be harder to recover from.. It's like picking between apples and pears really.. Don't think so much, if you go lower on the gear you'd obviously encounter less problems, questions is how worried are you? 400 deca 400 test should be a great cycle by the way.
Dbol I'd say 4 weeks and go from there.. Maybe lower the dosage after 4 and go 6.
I don't see you having deca dick when using caber and test. Deca should be more anabolic but also be harder to recover from.. It's like picking between apples and pears really.. Don't think so much, if you go lower on the gear you'd obviously encounter less problems, questions is how worried are you? 400 deca 400 test should be a great cycle by the way.
Dbol I'd say 4 weeks and go from there.. Maybe lower the dosage after 4 and go 6.
YamahaC76
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Thanks mate, Im just shooting numbers out there really. I really only looked up NPP and thats my knowledge on nandralones. I know Deca will take 30 days to Clear though. I can try to find caber, prami is so easy to find but iv'e never been able to source caber. I actually have tons of prami, just the sides are ridiculous.
Not so worried really, I just enjoy the benefits of being on top of everything. Loved tbol for the mental rush, heard dbol does the same. NPP kind of messed with that, but not by much. I mean deca dick is just high prolactin right? mine at the moment is 0.1...cant get lower really haha.
Let me ask this,
What about 250mg Test E, 450mg NPP With dbol for 4 weeks at 50, It's not tablets so I really have either a 25mg option or 50mg. Thats a lot of oil though with the NPP however...
That being said, I went back to NPP just because it cleared fast. If I'm really making too big of a deal about deca, (and reading on forums does that) then just let me know! I head dbol has a crazy estrogen conversion as well. And in fact the estrogen is methylated? So adex is a must.
Chados
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Take prami at night to avoid sides. Dbol is really wet cause of estrogen and 50mg can be on the bloating side. Definitely need an ai with this else you're a god damn freak haha. The test deca dosage seems fine to me
I'd start test for 3 weeks and then add NPP the third weeks with dbol. Prolactin shouldn't be a problem with prami but take it at night.
Matthersby
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100% all this ^
YamahaC76
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Definitely will listen to this. Sorry Matt, didn't see your recommendations above. So keep Deca or NPP at 500mg a week no matter what?
A few more questions and I think ill have my answer. So when can I expect prolactin to get high after I start Deca? How many weeks should deca be run since it's staring 3 weeks in? and since it's starting 3 weeks in I take it the dbol will be more pronounced this way, and the Deca will be saturated by the time the dbol is done?
How would you dose ADEX with Dbol? On 500mg of test I needed maybe .5mg a week.
Matthersby
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Just run NPP, no need to cycle Deca until you are on TRT. Start it all same time, if you can get test prop instead of E, even better. NPP Doesn’t have to be 500, just close to twice your test dose, 400,450 etc. run it 8-10 weeks tops. Dbol maximum of 6 weeks. If you use prop, you’ll be on from all 3 drugs by end of week 2. Adex, sure, but be ready to increase it if necessary. I don’t run anything but Letro but that’s bc I aromatize everything in every amount. Most aren’t as bad as I am.
YamahaC76
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Fair enough, I wasn't looking to do a super long cycle anyhow. How do you like Test Prop vs Test E? Running NPP that high will be expensive haha, but I'm assuming it's noticeable the gains.
Ill end up running DBOL for 4 weeks then. Any tips on how to fit that many CC's a week outside of a glute injection?
Matthersby
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Depends on your concentration. Most UGLs will be prop100 NPP150, so you could run 0.8ml prop and 1ml NPP every other day. 1.8cc’s is super manageable rotated just on glutes. I rarely rotate anywhere else but I’ve learned to use all the way from the hip down to middle of glute. So there’s lots of room. I won’t pin that much in my delts though. That’ll put you at 300/500. Fantastic dose. You’re going to get gains no matter how, but be sure to let us know how it goes since it’s a long running argument around here with the low-test guys and high-test guys. No one is right or wrong, it’s just that some of us who aren’t bonkers about test, find that it doesn’t add so much to the cycle and you can get more out of the bulking compound with less sides. But everyone responds differently and you may want to increase test in the future. I feel you’ll be perfectly fine with 300 Test P and 525 NPP though. Betting you love it.
YamahaC76
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Alright, so a true EOD cycle then will put me there. Not just a MWF split? Im gonna end up doing 2cc's EOD this way since both are 100mg/ml so not super fortunate, but only a difference of a .2CC. I've already done high test, low NPP (300mg) And really it's like I didn't even do the NPP. Strength is still good but I'm not bigger, that's for sure.
Ill definitely keep you guys updated for sure, I'm curious to see as well. 4 weeks of DBOL @50mg is getting thrown in here no matter what. And the test will be Prop as well. I need to figure out how to pin quads and my hip. I Just don't want to hit a nerve or another vein. I nicked on vain in my belt and coughed and had hot flashes for 3 minutes...thought I was dying. Other than that, no PIP with my gear.
So, 300/500 split of Prop/NPP. 10 weeks of NPP (maybe 12 if the quantity is there), 12 of prop? Dbol at the beginning as well you think? I think ill love it too. Huge help. I'm the type of guy that enjoys the long posts like those before jumping in. Dbol will be 50mg. Could do 25mg for 8 weeks though. When is dbol dosed? No experience with it.
Ill definitely keep you guys updated for sure, I'm curious to see as well. 4 weeks of DBOL @50mg is getting thrown in here no matter what. And the test will be Prop as well. I need to figure out how to pin quads and my hip. I Just don't want to hit a nerve or another vein. I nicked on vain in my belt and coughed and had hot flashes for 3 minutes...thought I was dying. Other than that, no PIP with my gear.
So, 300/500 split of Prop/NPP. 10 weeks of NPP (maybe 12 if the quantity is there), 12 of prop? Dbol at the beginning as well you think? I think ill love it too. Huge help. I'm the type of guy that enjoys the long posts like those before jumping in. Dbol will be 50mg. Could do 25mg for 8 weeks though. When is dbol dosed? No experience with it.
Matthersby
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I wouldn’t go lower than 30-40 but I really enjoy Dbol. The confidence boost and size gain alone makes it worth the temporary weight. Like most orals I’m never seeing much more gains after week 6 so I just make it for 5-6 weeks. NPP will be doing plenty long before then anyhow.
YamahaC76
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Got it. So dbol is dosed 50mg pre workout? It has a fairly short half life of a few hours doesn't it?
Matthersby
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I prefer it, with a dose like that, 20/20/10 since I don’t dose orals late at night. Gives somewhat steady all day. So, maybe 20 first thing am, 20 w hours prior to gym, 10 with post workout meal, or something like that
Bintherduntht
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I've ran primo for up to 6 months straight, at a very low dose. It's absolutely like a weak tren
Bintherduntht
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I've ran primo for up to 6 months straight, at a very low dose. It's absolutely like a weak tren
YamahaC76
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Having second thoughts about dbol since I'm already going to run 300/500 split of test and npp. Could I do Tbol 50mg for 8 weeks? Only reason I'm having second thoughts is I don't want to manage the sides of dbol on top of NPP. But definitely would want that confidence boost if tbol can match it?. Am I overplaying dbol sides?
Matthersby
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I have zero sides on it with test. Love Dbol no matter how much water it puts on me.