Do i need an Ai

Kingkongbeef

New member
Hi,

Im a 27 year old men from Belgium who does already 3 years of amateur bodybuilding.

stats
81kg
1’72cm
Bodyfat >10%


i have questions regard my libido.

so before i start, i will tell you where i had no problems with my libido and when it came up.

Just to mension before my cycles i whas horny 24/7

Now im always blasting and cruizing ( only do blast from may to august) the rest of the year im on 250mgs test a week

so i had many cycles and the ones i felt best on for my libido whas
500mg test e
400mg deca
I stopped this because of heavy acne and i have scars left because of that cycle

now the lastest cycle
I started in may
500mg test e
500mg bold

if got anxiety probs so the bold whas not the best choise to made in that regard 😅
So i leaved the bold about 4-5 weeks ago

Now im only running
500mgs test e
And after 4 weeks my libido is almost gone

I did bloodwork and my testoteron whas unmeasurable 🚀🤣 but my estrogen whas on 54ng/l so in my opinion that can not really be the cause of the problem because im not that much out of range.

I did added past year an ai in my cycle and i had a great libido but my joints hurted so much that i needed to stop taking them. now after like 1 year of stopping ai i have no joint pain at all.

i really want to continue blasting but im stuck with that fucking libido..

I know proviron can help but its not an option for me because im a migraine patient.

do you guys have good information for me so i can get my libido back and stil blast 500mgs of test

thanks upfront mates!
 
Kingkongbeef said:
Hi,

Im a 27 year old men from Belgium who does already 3 years of amateur bodybuilding.

stats
81kg
1’72cm
Bodyfat >10%


i have questions regard my libido.

so before i start, i will tell you where i had no problems with my libido and when it came up.

Just to mension before my cycles i whas horny 24/7

Now im always blasting and cruizing ( only do blast from may to august) the rest of the year im on 250mgs test a week

so i had many cycles and the ones i felt best on for my libido whas
500mg test e
400mg deca
I stopped this because of heavy acne and i have scars left because of that cycle

now the lastest cycle
I started in may
500mg test e
500mg bold

if got anxiety probs so the bold whas not the best choise to made in that regard 😅
So i leaved the bold about 4-5 weeks ago

Now im only running
500mgs test e
And after 4 weeks my libido is almost gone

I did bloodwork and my testoteron whas unmeasurable 🚀🤣 but my estrogen whas on 54ng/l so in my opinion that can not really be the cause of the problem because im not that much out of range.

I did added past year an ai in my cycle and i had a great libido but my joints hurted so much that i needed to stop taking them. now after like 1 year of stopping ai i have no joint pain at all.

i really want to continue blasting but im stuck with that fucking libido..

I know proviron can help but its not an option for me because im a migraine patient.

do you guys have good information for me so i can get my libido back and stil blast 500mgs of test

thanks upfront mates!
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Did they check your Prolactin?
 
Renew1 said:
We certainly try ...
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I whas thinking of microdosing aromasin 6,25 twice a week, but then when i look at anabolic doc on youtube he keeps saying Ai is not good. That whas the reason i added bold in my last cycle because these really helped me prevent high estrogen not only masking like mast does. I saw it in my bloodwork because i once crashed my estrogen with bold and 25mg aromasin ew 😅 maybe iits good to share that my libido is +_ okay on 250mgs test but i never have morning wood. Its been a while that i had that but thats because i use diazepam. I come from 40mg a day to 26 nowadays i decend it little by little because of my anxiety problems. I begin to control them by myself but its been a long way.
 
Kingkongbeef said:
I whas thinking of microdosing aromasin 6,25 twice a week, but then when i look at anabolic doc on youtube he keeps saying Ai is not good. That whas the reason i added bold in my last cycle because these really helped me prevent high estrogen not only masking like mast does. I saw it in my bloodwork because i once crashed my estrogen with bold and 25mg aromasin ew 😅 maybe iits good to share that my libido is +_ okay on 250mgs test but i never have morning wood. Its been a while that i had that but thats because i use diazepam. I come from 40mg a day to 26 nowadays i decend it little by little because of my anxiety problems. I begin to control them by myself but its been a long way.
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Congratulations on your continued lowering of Diazepam!

Using Aromasin like you suggested May not be a bad idea, but it would be better if you could rule out Prolactin issues.
If Prolactin turns out to Not be an issue, I'd recommend trying the Aromasin Low Dose.
(y)
 
Renew1 said:
Congratulations on your continued lowering of Diazepam!

Using Aromasin like you suggested May not be a bad idea, but it would be better if you could rule out Prolactin issues.
If Prolactin turns out to Not be an issue, I'd recommend trying the Aromasin Low Dose.
(y)
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Thanks for youre reaction on my diazepam use! :)
Okay i will do like you say, if prolactin is okay i can try aromasin. But am i wrong when i say that my estrogen can not be the biggest problem because its not that heavily out of range ? Sorry if my enlgisch is not at its best. I only learned it from videos and movies 🙈
 
Kingkongbeef said:
Thanks for youre reaction on my diazepam use! :)
Okay i will do like you say, if prolactin is okay i can try aromasin. But am i wrong when i say that my estrogen can not be the biggest problem because its not that heavily out of range ? Sorry if my enlgisch is not at its best. I only learned it from videos and movies 🙈
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Estrogen can be tricky.
It's effects on an individual can vary pretty widely from one person to another.

I don't think that it is your problem, or your main problem... But you'll know more after you get your Prolactin numbers (and the ranges that they give you with the results).
 
Renew1 said:
Estrogen can be tricky.
It's effects on an individual can vary pretty widely from one person to another.

I don't think that it is your problem, or your main problem... But you'll know more after you get your Prolactin numbers (and the ranges that they give you with the results).
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Okay.i know what to do, i will do my bloodtests this week and then upload my numbers here! Thanks man 🤝🏼
 
Maybe try and keep reducing the diazapam..when I was on xanax that absolutely destroyed my libido..obviously it's not something you'll probably ever be truly off of. Just another thought. Definitely check out the prolactin tho
 
Mikereyn513 said:
Maybe try and keep reducing the diazapam..when I was on xanax that absolutely destroyed my libido..obviously it's not something you'll probably ever be truly off of. Just another thought. Definitely check out the prolactin tho
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Thanks for youre reaction, its true that everytime i lower 1mg of diazepam i wake up with morningwoods. I have another question for you guys, when i had my acne breakout i did not take an ai and my estrogen whas on 92ng/l, whas it te estrogen or just the high dosages of several steroids ? Sorry for all those question guys!
 
Kingkongbeef said:
Thanks for youre reaction, its true that everytime i lower 1mg of diazepam i wake up with morningwoods. I have another question for you guys, when i had my acne breakout i did not take an ai and my estrogen whas on 92ng/l, whas it te estrogen or just the high dosages of several steroids ? Sorry for all those question guys!
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Could be either or even a combination. I use to get really bad bacne from test and it was mostly from not controlling estrogen. Years later I got that all figured out but whenever I switch from trt to a cycle, I will start getting a little acne as the doses are building up but once I hit peak or stable levels it goes away. Then after the cycle a small amount comes back while the drugs are on there way out and after a few weeks it stops again.
 
Smont said:
Could be either or even a combination. I use to get really bad bacne from test and it was mostly from not controlling estrogen. Years later I got that all figured out but whenever I switch from trt to a cycle, I will start getting a little acne as the doses are building up but once I hit peak or stable levels it goes away. Then after the cycle a small amount comes back while the drugs are on there way out and after a few weeks it stops again.
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Okay, got that thankyou ☺️. So if i do not control my estrogen wich i will probaly not do… and i let it run and when it hits its peak i will normally not break out. Its when youre changing the dosages up or down that it comes up ? Also, correct me if am wrong i think if you block estrogen with an AI its converts more to dht wich also causes acne? Man i do this 3 years and its all about try and error 😅 am i the only one who find it fucked up that its all so difficult ? 😂
 
Kingkongbeef said:
Okay, got that thankyou ☺. So if i do not control my estrogen wich i will probaly not do… and i let it run and when it hits its peak i will normally not break out. Its when youre changing the dosages up or down that it comes up ? Also, correct me if am wrong i think if you block estrogen with an AI its converts more to dht wich also causes acne? Man i do this 3 years and its all about try and error 😅 am i the only one who find it fucked up that its all so difficult ? 😂
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You got that right my friend what works for me doesn't work for @Smont And what works for you may not work for me..all we can do is share our experiences and give recommendations. That's what's so great about this community we all genuinely help each other out and don't want anything in return
 
Mikereyn513 said:
You got that right my friend what works for me doesn't work for @Smont And what works for you may not work for me..all we can do is share our experiences and give recommendations. That's what's so great about this community we all genuinely help each other out and don't want anything in return
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Im new here but i will help people as much as i can also 😊 i really like how the vibe is here on this forum. Not bringing each other down but just helping each other up, feels great. Thankfull to be here 🙏🏼
 
Kingkongbeef said:
Hi,

Im a 27 year old men from Belgium who does already 3 years of amateur bodybuilding.

stats
81kg
1’72cm
Bodyfat >10%


i have questions regard my libido.

so before i start, i will tell you where i had no problems with my libido and when it came up.

Just to mension before my cycles i whas horny 24/7

Now im always blasting and cruizing ( only do blast from may to august) the rest of the year im on 250mgs test a week

so i had many cycles and the ones i felt best on for my libido whas
500mg test e
400mg deca
I stopped this because of heavy acne and i have scars left because of that cycle

now the lastest cycle
I started in may
500mg test e
500mg bold

if got anxiety probs so the bold whas not the best choise to made in that regard 😅
So i leaved the bold about 4-5 weeks ago

Now im only running
500mgs test e
And after 4 weeks my libido is almost gone

I did bloodwork and my testoteron whas unmeasurable 🚀🤣 but my estrogen whas on 54ng/l so in my opinion that can not really be the cause of the problem because im not that much out of range.

I did added past year an ai in my cycle and i had a great libido but my joints hurted so much that i needed to stop taking them. now after like 1 year of stopping ai i have no joint pain at all.

i really want to continue blasting but im stuck with that fucking libido..

I know proviron can help but its not an option for me because im a migraine patient.

do you guys have good information for me so i can get my libido back and stil blast 500mgs of test

thanks upfront mates!
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Brother, I'm in the SAME boat as you this time around. Can't get it figured out myself either.

However, I recently started taking my hcg shots again while lowering my test from 500 to 350 and I FEEL like I'm heading in the right direction.

I'll be watching this threads for your updates.
 
Okay guys so i did my bloodwork yesterday, i toke 12,5mg aromasin twice past week and my estrodial lvl whent from 54 to 67 in 1 week of aromasin use ? My prolactine is perfect 9.7 needs to be between 4.0-15.2. Im really confused because my estrodial whent up when on ai ? 🤯
 
Kingkongbeef said:
Okay guys so i did my bloodwork yesterday, i toke 12,5mg aromasin twice past week and my estrodial lvl whent from 54 to 67 in 1 week of aromasin use ? My prolactine is perfect 9.7 needs to be between 4.0-15.2. Im really confused because my estrodial whent up when on ai ? 🤯
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Ai is not underdosed because i got it prescribed from my doctor
 
EQ has AI qualities..for most people..
Whenever something goes sideways..
Bloodwork is a great place to start..
Just a thought..
Z...
 
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