Do I have Gyno or Fat to lose?

PlateHead45

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Hi all, 26 yrs old 5'11 209 lbs. I am 10 days in on a Msten cycle and I want to see if you guys think I have gyno or just some fat to lose. I also did a PH cycle when I was 18 and dumb with Superdrol. Didn't take anything with it because I was an idiot.

I have a serm on hand for this cycle as well as support. By looking at these pics, can you estimate what my BF% is close to along with your opinions on if I have Gyno or not? Invalid Link RemovedInvalid Link RemovedInvalid Link Removed
 
Gyno isn't easy to spot unless it's really prevalent/inflamed. Feel your pec, is there tissue built-up behind the nipple? Is there a lump?

Most cases of gyno usually end up being body fat. Lots of guys think they have it, in reality they're 16% + body fat and simply need to lose weight. I will say that running SD at 18 may have caused an issue.
 
Thanks dude and to be honest, I do feel a lump and a pretty big one at that, but I'm not sure if that's just normal or not. Guess I would have to feel someone else's to compare, which I don't want to do.. lol

I guess the only way to really find out is either go to the Doc or try and lose some body fat and see how it looks at 15% lower body fat. I'm guessing I'm around 18-20% body fat right now??
 
It doesn't look like you have gyno but I don't know what you feel. That lump sounds bad but doesn't appear on your pec. According to my very expensive and (supposed to be) accurate scale, I'm 22.4% bf and my top 4 abs are coming through a little when relaxed. You're a little more beefy than me. I would say you're ~25% bf.
 
****! 25%? Well, there's my answer then.. Very hard to tell if it's gyno or fat at that amount. I've been eating clean while on msten, but I guess I'll have to up the cardio if I want to lose fat. Just sucks because it's hard to lose fat and gain muscle.. I do have some epistane to run in a few months for a cutting cycle. I guess I'll have to re-evaluate the gyno at that point with hopefully less fat on me.
 
****! 25%? Well, there's my answer then.. Very hard to tell if it's gyno or fat at that amount. I've been eating clean while on msten, but I guess I'll have to up the cardio if I want to lose fat. Just sucks because it's hard to lose fat and gain muscle.. I do have some epistane to run in a few months for a cutting cycle. I guess I'll have to re-evaluate the gyno at that point with hopefully less fat on me.

Well I'm just guessing based off of my stats. It's hard to tell because 10% on a dude with muscle mass looks way different than a 150 lb skinny kid who is also 10%. Start cleaning your diet up on a deficit. Should start loosing the unwanted fat slowly but surely.
 
Thanks dude and to be honest, I do feel a lump and a pretty big one at that, but I'm not sure if that's just normal or not. Guess I would have to feel someone else's to compare, which I don't want to do.. lol

I guess the only way to really find out is either go to the Doc or try and lose some body fat and see how it looks at 15% lower body fat. I'm guessing I'm around 18-20% body fat right now??

There is a very distinct difference between muscle, adipose tissue, and breast tissue (gyno). If it feels like there is a lump of foreign tissue under the nipple i'd advise seeing a doctor, specifically an endocrinologist if you can.
 
What do you mean on a deficit? Calorie Deficit? I think my biggest problem is my ego and not wanting to lose all my strength and size while losing body fat. But I guess there's really no way around it..
 
What do you mean on a deficit? Calorie Deficit? I think my biggest problem is my ego and not wanting to lose all my strength and size while losing body fat. But I guess there's really no way around it..

Yes caloric deficit. And you keep the protein high (I'm 172 lbs 85g fat, 180g carbs, 250g protein) you should be able to keep most. You will loose a little strength, but nothin you can't get back in a few weeks. Now if you don't care and just want to lift a house, keep the bf. It helps. I'm more into aesthetics. Especially because I'm getting married in a few months
 
Ok good to know, I'll try and lose the BF when I do the Epistane cycle which will hopefully keep my strength up while trying to cut.

Thanks for the help!
 
That looks like fat bro. The only reason im saying that is because your bf looks a bit high. Now if you did not notice this before your cycle and it poped up rite now I would grab some tamoxifen raloxifen adex or aromasin dont fool with the over the counter ones.
 
Keep in mid though puffyness is one of the first symptoms of gyno but at the same time you can destroy it with in days with the right serms
 
:::to I'm a little tea pot:::

I'm a little gyno puff, soft and round
This is my nipple this is my mound
When I get all puffed up hear me shout
Pop some letro and ween me out
 
:::to I'm a little tea pot:::

I'm a little gyno puff, soft and round
This is my nipple this is my mound
When I get all puffed up hear me shout
Pop some letro and ween me out
Damn reps on recharge
OP the lump you may be feeling is probably your sweat gland
 
To OP I'm not poking fun at your situation. To echo the thoughts of others here, it looks like some BF. Trim up and see where you're at....
 
LMAO at the song.. sounds good guys, thanks for all the replies. I guess my first test will be to drop around 15% body fat and see how my chest looks/feels at that point.

Thanks!
 
In my personal experience, when my hormones get out of wack I usually feel something weird in my nips...just saying. It could be your body adjusting to the hormones and no need to freak out. Msten had me full and jacked every morning when I looked in the mirror. Enjoy your run!
 
Well, I have been feeling this in my nips for sometime now. Years and years ago.. I have never had any itchiness or tenderness or anything. I think it's just me being paranoid and seeing it in the mirror and touching it.. idk.. lol
 
I never thought I'd be relieved when someone called me fat.. lol Sounds good, I'll work on my diet and try to lean up a little bit before summer and see where we're at then. Thanks again!

Lol no prob bro. Glad we could help. Have fun on your run, and let me know how the msten run is. Been thinkin about buyin a bottle off a buddy and doin a run later. Take care
 
The Msten is F*ckin sick. I'm only running 8mg a day along with 100mg of 4 Andro. I've read countless times on Msten dosage being around 20-30 mg. I am getting awesome results on only 8mg. Assault Labs Brand. I'm almost 2 weeks in and my weight has increased by 10 lbs along with amazing pumps and strength increases. Zero sides.. If you do decide to run it, I wouldn't be worried about staying at a low dosage because this stuff is legit at only 8mg.. But obviously everyone reacts differently.

Once I run my Epi cycle in a few months I'll post back on here with updated pics to see where I'm at.
 
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